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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the pods, moving and storage studios. It's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships. Jade Walsh, our Ramsey personality, is my co-host today. Open phones at 888-825-5225. Eunice starts off this hour in Philadelphia.
Chapter 2: What concerns does Eunice have about her husband's early retirement?
Hi, Eunice. How are you?
Hi, Dave and Jade. Thanks for taking my call. Sure.
What's up?
Okay, so I have a dilemma. My husband, he's only 50 years old, and he is deciding to retire. He's only 50 years old.
So he's only 50 years old.
Are you worried about him just not having anything to do, or are you married about the money?
Both.
Okay. What does he do?
He's in IT. He's a computer programmer.
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Chapter 3: What is the F.I.R.E. movement and how does it work?
So what you guys have not done is the two of you need to sit down with the television off and spend a Saturday planning and talking about what it is he is going to do next. Nothing is not on the list.
Well, he had mentioned that he wants to teach part-time. He feels that that's more rewarding than what he's doing right now.
It sounds like he's not sure because we've heard corporate, we've heard managed financing, we've heard teach.
Well, that's why he's saying that he's going to keep himself busy by teaching, at the same time managing our finances, but he wants to leave his corporate job. Okay.
I think I'm going to give him advice, but it's dangerous because I'm not sure I have a good clear picture. You have enough money to not have to work. Not working, not doing anything, or dumbing down your career and calling that satisfying is not going to work for you. Getting out of corporate America, awesome.
Teaching part-time and making $15,000 a year and calling that fulfilling is absolute BS. This guy, he's wired with more electricity than that. That's going to get really, really boring. He could already be teaching part-time if he really wanted to do that.
And he's going to figure that out, but he's going to learn it the hard way.
He really needs to find something to lay his hand to. This idea that I'm going to go. I had a friend of mine sold his business for $15 million. He was 31 years old, and he said, I'm going fishing.
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Chapter 4: What are the financial implications of retiring early?
After two years, he was very fat.
It's all that fish.
All he did was fish and drink beer. And he hated himself. And he went and opened another business and has had three different careers since then. I bet. And made that much more money again. But you can't sit on the boat and fish and drink beer. It doesn't work. This is the Ramsey Show. I'm sorry. I'm Dave Ramsey, your host, Jade Warshaw. Ramsey Personality is my co-host today.
Open phones at 888-825-5225. So, as a person of faith... I look at this money thing through the lens of a biblical method of living. Now, you don't have to, and you and I can be friends, but that's what I do.
And so I love the quote when it comes to financial independence that Bob Gass said, the guy from the Northeast preacher, old Pentecostal preacher guy, he said, the definition of prosperity is is having the money to do God's will in your life. So if you are living on the mission field in a third world country, it doesn't take a lot of money to pull that off. You don't need $300,000 a year.
And if you're living on the mission field and if that's God's will for your life, let's assume it is, And you've got the mission work is funded where your family can eat. You have reasonable safety, reasonable shelter while you're doing the mission work. But you're in a situation where it doesn't require a lot of money to do, in quotes, God's will for your life. then you are prosperous.
You are very prosperous by definition. If you are called to run some massive thing, it might be millions and millions of dollars. That's God's will. He's asking you to do that. And so one of the things I do around here is I judge the stuff we do at Ramsey, okay? Is this project, this thing we're getting ready to launch, this new brand, this new effort, this new whatever, is that God's will?
Is he wanting to do it? And one of the ways we can ascertain that is if we have the money to do it.
That's right.
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Chapter 5: How should profits be managed after a divorce?
you're going to discover it's quite the opposite, that you're more interdependent than ever before. You cannot escape if you're not the Unabomber, and even he didn't escape, okay? So you really aren't, you know, this mythology, I'm going to pile up a bunch of cash and move to Costa Rica and nobody's ever going to see me again. Yeah, but you have no humans in your life.
That know you and love you. Where's your family? Where's your friends? Where's your history? You're just going to go live in a foreign country where no one knows who you are all by your lonesome self. That's called mental illness. Okay. I mean, really, human beings need long, deep, gratifying relationships. And wealth is not to escape from that. It's to embrace that.
That's very good.
And to accentuate that. And so this idea that you're somehow going to be independent, that you're not going to have to have any problems or any people to deal with, it's quite the opposite. Let me tell you what wealth does. 100% of the time, it magnifies you. It makes you more of what you already are. So if you're kind, you're going to become unbelievably kind.
If you're a generous person, you're going to become what we call a philanthropist. If you have a problem with anger, God help the people in your life if you get money. God help them. If you are a crook and you get money, you're going to do crook on steroids, man. Whatever you do, you get money, you're going to do it big.
You want to know what? But there's part of that, too, with this retirement thing, because if you are that person, if you're a generous person, if you have a servant heart, if you are a person who loves helping out, it's going to be hard for you to not work.
Because you're going to want to do more.
You're going to want to do more.
In other words, I get a whole lot more personal, spiritual, emotional, mental health satisfaction out of doing this show, out of meeting someone. Two couples who just paid off their house at the break, right? I get more out of that than I do income.
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Chapter 6: Should you prioritize paying off debt or saving for a car?
Almost $60,000. See, I want anybody listening to hear that because so many people think they can't pay it off. 60,000 of student loans.
And we paid, we were, so we sold the house, we sold our house and we, at the very end, and we used the equity because we got quite a bit of equity from it and used it the last, what was it? 46? 46.
46 000 to pay it off and that was the same day that they said that they kind of declared that no student loan repayment yeah just kidding just kidding on that forgiveness thing psych yeah got your vote gotcha we were already planning on doing that but you're like the reason we're taking this in our matters into our own hands paying off our debt we had a plan um actually because we knew you know congress doesn't bet a thousand so we knew that they weren't wasn't going to happen so what we were going to do but it's in the wrong way
yeah uh what we were going to do was i wasn't able to make my last ten thousand dollars because they had forgiven it and it wasn't there but i couldn't get a um paid in full letter they wouldn't send it oh wow so what we did was we were prepared to put that back so as soon as the the balance was available it was there already ah okay very good perfect timing well done good job guys how's it feel to be free amazing yep
More than anything else, you feel like you've got control now. Yeah, we do. And now you're working together because you weren't before.
You get out of bad habits. Thomas Sowell said that today's problems are usually a result of yesterday's solutions. So when you come in and say, well, I'll just put that on a credit card. I'll just get a loan. I'll do whatever. No, because now it's today's problem.
Wow. Amazing. Well done, you two. All right. Now that you're experts, you did it. You actually did it. It's not a theory. What do you tell people the key to getting out of debt is? Work together. Just talk about it. Work together. Get out of the victim mentality or the victim of situation, like what you talk about in your Baby Steps Millionaire book. That chapter really hit hard with me.
I think it's chapter five.
And don't be afraid to talk to your husband, your wife, your spouse, whoever, because... they're not going to be as hard on you as you are on yourself about it. So there's a lot of fear that, you know, they're going to be so disappointed. They're going to be upset. They are, but not any more than you are with yourself.
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Chapter 7: What strategies are effective for managing student loan debt?
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