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Debt Is Never the Problem, It’s Always the Symptom

Mon, 02 Dec 2024

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📈 Are you on track with the Baby Steps? Get a Free Personalized Plan 📱Watch the full episode for free in the Ramsey Network app. Dave Ramsey & George Kamel answer your questions and discuss: "How do I buy a house for the first time?" "How do I financially prepare for med school?" "Should we cash out our whole life policy?" "Will income tax be eliminated?" "Should I pay off my cousin's debt?" Support Our Sponsors: 🌱 Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp ◎ Get 10% off Byrna product bundles and more! 🏥 Learn more about Christian Healthcare Ministries 🏡 Get started today with Churchill Mortgage 🔒 Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe 🏦 Go to FAIRWINDS Credit Union for an exclusive account bundle! 🥗 Save 15% on your first Field of Greens order with code RAMSEY 💤 Visit Helix Sleep for special offers! 🗂️ Use promo code RAMSEY for 18% off at The Nokbox 💵 Learn more about Timothy Plan 🏛 Get started with YRefy or call 844-2-RAMSEY 🔐 Visit Zander Insurance for your free instant quote today! Next Steps 📞 Have a question for the show? Call 888-825-5225 Weekdays from 2-5pm ET or click here! 🛒 Shop weeklong Cyber Monday deals starting at $10!  🏠 Get organized and prepared to buy or sell a home.  💵 Start your free budget today. Download the EveryDollar app! 🎄 Hurry—Your chance to win $5k is almost over! Enter the Ramsey Cash Giveaway today! Listen to more from Ramsey Network 🎙️ The Ramsey Show   🧠 The Dr. John Delony Show 🍸 Smart Money Happy Hour 💡 The Rachel Cruze Show 💸 The Ramsey Show Highlights 💰 George Kamel 💼 The Ken Coleman Show 📈 EntreLeadership Learn more about your ad choices. https://www.megaphone.fm/adchoices Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How can I afford to buy my first house?

15.276 - 43.064 George Kamel

Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work that they love, and create actual amazing relationships. George Campbell, Ramsey personality. author of the number one best-selling book, Breaking Free from Broke. He is my co-host today, and we're here to help you guys. Also, check him out on YouTube. That show's going to Zoom Zoom.

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43.625 - 50.406 George Kamel

Phone number here is 888-825-5225. Darlene is in Philadelphia. Hi, Darlene. How are you?

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51.146 - 56.668 Caller

Hi, Dave. I'm great. Thanks for taking my call. I feel blessed today talking to the both of you.

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56.708 - 58.188 George Kamel

Well, we're honored to have you. How can we help?

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59.307 - 80.986 Caller

So I just wanted some financial advice or thoughts. I'm 54. I've never been married. I have no children. I live in a different state than where I grew up. And as I'm aging, I'm realizing that I will likely move back to my home state to have that support in aging in about 10 to 11 years when I retire.

81.466 - 108.13 Caller

But a job opportunity came up this past fall that I applied for and wasn't expecting to get, but they did offer me the job. And I just have some financial concerns about it and not sure if it's wise for me to move back now. So one is the salary. And this is through negotiation. They're offering me what I was making last year at my current employer. Um, currently I have a pension.

108.83 - 140.863 Caller

If I leave now, I make, um, right now I make 104, almost 105. Um, but I also, we have a lot of overtime. I work in healthcare and I'll be making like gross about 11,000 in the overtime this year. We have a pension. If I leave now, it'll be about $400 a month as opposed to possibly like, I think I figured out possibly $1,800 a month. So the overtime, they're 403B. They don't start matching.

140.883 - 145.388 Caller

I have to be there a full year before they start matching. And what are they going to pay you? What?

149.973 - 149.952 Caller

$102,500.

Chapter 2: What should I consider before moving for a job?

434.606 - 461.575 George Kamel

Texas and Florida are the two primaries, and Tennessee falls in there too. But they land in income tax-free states, and they land in states that were open during the draconian shutdowns. And so freedom issues. Financial and political. I mean, a million people have been displaced. Wow. A million. And left those two states and went somewhere else. So, yeah, that does enter into it.

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462.396 - 478.351 George Kamel

It turns out you can't tax the rich. They leave. They will just, peace out. I'm gone. They leave. They have options. So much for your theory on that. I'm done. Load up the U-Haul. Oh, wait. I'm rich. I'll let someone else load up the U-Haul.

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478.551 - 483.736 Dave Ramsey

That's the real flex. That's where I want to be in life. No movers ever again. I'm not doing it. I'm not lifting a finger.

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484.156 - 499.327 George Kamel

Yeah, and also you need to even, somebody said, Dave, you have a pickup. Do you have those friends that ask you to help move? And I said, no, they wouldn't be friends. No one's ever texted you? I'm not moving anybody. Saying, Dave, can I borrow the truck? You want me to help you move? Do you mean you want me to pay your mover? You want me to help you move? Is that what you mean?

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499.347 - 503.03 Dave Ramsey

I would rather support a GoFundMe for you to get movers than me help you load up that truck.

503.05 - 506.012 George Kamel

I'm not doing either one. If you need a GoFundMe to move, you've got other issues.

506.132 - 510.076 Dave Ramsey

Don't ask Dave to borrow his Raptor. He will not allow it. No. Get your own Raptor.

510.156 - 534.463 George Kamel

Or my 64-year-old back. Either one. You can't have either one of them. This is The Ramsey Show. Well, I think they call this Cyber Monday. which I'm learning about because my wife was really excited about it.

535.084 - 540.189 Dave Ramsey

Really? Is Sharon the online shopper in the family now? Apparently.

Chapter 3: Is cashing out my whole life insurance policy a good idea?

947.304 - 972.26 Caller

So I just wanted to come on and just ask a quick question. You know, I took your class last year with a Sunday school class, but I'm a recent graduate from Clemson. I just graduated in May. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. And I wound up in a pretty good situation financially with my present work. But I'm pursuing medical school in the near future.

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973.401 - 983.233 Caller

You know, I'm looking at possibly starting in about two years from right now. Um, but I'm just wondering, you know, how is the best way to save up for something of that magnitude?

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983.533 - 984.234 George Kamel

Aggressively.

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986.155 - 986.456 Caller

Okay.

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987.236 - 991.4 George Kamel

Um, I mean, how much are you making? You said a good situation. What'd you land in?

992.662 - 1008.579 Caller

Um, I'm making about 60,000 salary and then, but I, but I think, um, with, when, when overtime comes, which is I'll get salary in overtime, um, I could easily, you know, we're working extra hours, probably wind up in the 70 to 80 range.

1008.999 - 1012.36 George Kamel

Good. Okay. And just live like a college student and bank all of it, right?

1013.681 - 1024.403 Caller

Yes. So would it be best to try to knock that down, like pay off all of that, or take out a loan for the four years of medical school?

1025.263 - 1026.484 George Kamel

Caden, you went through our class.

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