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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, this is The Ramsey Show. It's where we help you win in life, specifically with your money, in your work, and in your relationships. The phone number to jump in is 888-825-5225, 888-825-5225. 825-5225. I'm Ken Coleman, joined by the incomparable, the illustrious, the esteemed, number one best-selling author of Breaking Free from Broke.
I had to look over my shoulder. I got so into the compliments. You know how to make a guy feel good. I do. He's my good friend as well. We were just talking about having a fabulous dinner together with some other friends the other night. George and I have a lot of fun together. He is George Camel, of course. He's going to be your money expert today. I'll weigh in.
Then let's talk about your income. Let's talk about making money. This is a show about making money, too, and I'm the work expert, they tell me. And Dave has said for decades, your income is your greatest wealth-building tool. So you got any work questions that get you on the path to making more money, I'm your guy today. George will weigh in on those as well. You ready to go, partner?
I'm so ready. All right, Vanessa is going to start us off in Dallas, Texas. Vanessa, how can we help? Yes, my question is, what should I invest my $100 a month in to be a millionaire by 65? Oh, great question. How old are you? Well, I am 27. I'll be 28 in September this year. So that was my other question. Should I backtrack? Because the post that Dave Ramsey had said was at 25.
I mean, I know I'm just a little bit behind on that. Yeah, not far behind at all. What do you got for her, George? You love your investment calculator. I've got my calculator out. You just cracked your knuckles. I'm pushing my glasses up. I'm ready to go, Vanessa. Tell her, George. Okay, so let's talk about your financial picture. You're saying $100 a month because that was the example Dave used.
at 25 starting at 25 starting at 25 if you invest 100 bucks a month and so that post exists to tell people it's very much possible to become a millionaire and it's simpler and easier than you think it's just consistency plus time it doesn't take a huge six-figure income and so that's the point of the post i just want to make that clear we're not telling people you should invest only 100 a month so where what's your financial status right now are you debt free do you have an emergency fund
And so we are debt free. My husband and I, we are debt free. We also have savings, but we don't, we are both self-employed. And so we don't have a retirement. And so that's kind of why I was like, well, you know, even if we did more than a hundred dollars a month, but the minimum a hundred dollars a month, we would have something in place if we both weren't able to work at 65. Yeah.
What's your household income? We've never really thought about a retirement. It's about 50. Total household income? Yeah, we don't make a whole... Mm-hmm. I'm primarily a stay-at-home wife, and I bake cakes on the side, so my husband primarily brings in the money. But we don't need a lot because our home is paid for and our vehicles are as well. Great. Wow. What does he do?
Yeah, he builds metal buildings and shops and barns like that. And he does it for himself? Him and a buddy. They do it together. Yes, sir. How long have they been doing it?
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Chapter 2: How can I invest $100 a month to become a millionaire by 65?
And the maximum for 2024 is $7,000. And you can open one as well. So your husband can open one. You can open one. So that's $7,000 each. Now, when it comes to the amount you should invest, we recommend 15% when you're in Baby Step 4. Now, because you guys have a paid-for house, that puts you in Baby Step 7, which means you can invest even more than 15%.
So I would not recommend investing $100 in your shoes. You should be investing at least $7,500 a year. And so when you open that Roth IRA and one of a smart investor pro can help you with this, you can reach out to one at ramseysolutions.com and get connected. These are financial advisors, investing pros who can help set these up, help you understand what you're actually doing.
And this is an individual retirement arrangement. And all it is, it's a shell. Within that, you would then invest and buy mutual funds, which is just a basket of stocks, 90 to 200 companies that we're all rooting for to win and grow. And so that will help you create a 10% to 12% return is what we've been seeing in the market. And so I just did the calculation for you.
From 27 to 67, if you just put $100 in there, you could end up with $860,000 at 11% return. How does that make you feel, Vanessa? Good. Yeah. So you take $7,500, for example, and the numbers change drastically when you start to get into those numbers. Oh, this is what I get excited about. So $7,500, that's $625 a month, right? Mm-hmm.
If you invest $625 a month from 27 to 67, that would grow it to $5.3 million, right? Wow. With an 11% return. If you scale it down to 10%, 3.9. Vanessa. Let's go more conservative. That's still 2.9. Vanessa. So the key is get started, do this every year and don't touch it. She's not worried anymore, George. And on top of that, Ken. I think Vanessa went, ah. I think Vanessa started going.
And Vanessa, guess how much of that was money you put in? Let's even say the 9%, it grows to 2.9 million. How much money do you think you put in out of that 2.9 million? Oh, my gosh. I have no idea. $300,000. That's all you put in. $2.6 million was just growth, just compound interest. And so get started now. We have a lot of options for self-employed people.
So whoever's listening, they're going, I can't invest in retirement. Yes, you can. We have a whole blog called Five Investing Options for Self-Employed People. Go check it out. The SEP IRA, the Simple IRA, Individual Solo 401k. Tons of options out there for entrepreneurs.
Vanessa, go on YouTube later this afternoon, this evening, show this clip, this segment to your husband, and you guys have a fun dream session about what life is going to be like when you're in your 60s with all that money. Game on. Oh, George, you're so good. This is The Ramsey Show. Welcome back to the Ramsey Show America. Thrilled to have you. It is your show.
It's about you and your life, and we're thrilled to be able to walk alongside of you. I'm Ken Coleman. George Campbell joins you. We're Ramsey Personalities, and we are your hosts today. Let's get to it, shall we? 888-825-5225. Keith is going to join us now in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Keith, how can we help? Yes, me and my wife, we're
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Chapter 3: What should I do if I'm self-employed and have no retirement plan?
So we want to tell you that we're sorry you're going through this, and this is a tough, tough journey. Let me give you a couple options. Is this an income issue, meaning we don't have enough and we're scraping by, so any kind of unexpected squall or a storm that pops up kind of kills the momentum?
Chapter 4: How can we manage unexpected sports expenses for kids?
Or is it something more than income, just no discipline? What do you think it is? I think it's more disciplined. Because me and my wife, we make decent money. What is decent? Between us two, we make about $130 a year. Oh, okay. And then last year, we started doing it eBay and selling on eBay, and that bought us another $10,000 roughly. Okay, so we can say you're in the $140 range. Yes.
So, George, sounds like this is a budget issue. Yes. So far, it's a lot of feelings, like, well, things are coming at us, and I just feel like we can't. And what happens when you don't do the budget is you lean on feelings instead of the facts, and the budget tells all. And so when you list out the actual take-home pay that ends up in your bank account, what does that amount to in a given month?
Let's see. Unluckily... Okay. 6,400 comes in, and you're saying we can't get 1,000 together out of the 6,400. So where is that 6,400 going? That's kind of what we're trying to figure out also, you know, like those... And there's a solution for all of this. We can solve this very easily with an every dollar budget. And I'm going to help you out with that.
We're going to give you the premium version on us to get you started. And it's really simple. On that smartphone app, you list out your income and beneath that, all of your expenses, what you plan to spend in a given month. To make this easier, I would pull up your bank statement and go, what happened in the last month? Okay, here's the average for the utility bills.
Oh, yeah, we have that subscription that comes out. We've got to pay insurance. And so beyond the priorities, which is your four walls, food, utility, shelter, transportation, we'll add in insurance as a bonus. Everything beyond that we would call non-necessities. Would you agree? Yes. Non-essentials.
That's the parts you need to cut out because I'm guessing if you looked at your budget, you probably think you're spending $500 on food. You're probably spending $1,200. Right. And so when you look at, is that accurate? That's most people's problem is the food category is out of control. Yeah, that would be a big one. So I don't think there's much issue here.
You make $6,400, we just got to pay attention to where every one of those dollars is going. And next paycheck, you have a $1,000 emergency fund. I don't believe that there's these constant 1,000 plus emergencies hitting you guys. It's ankle biters, and you're using the emergencies as an excuse as to why you're not going to follow through this plan and get on the budget.
Keith, what do you do for a living? Deliver beer. Oh, okay. When I say this phrase to you, I'm just curious what your reaction is. How do you feel about being reactive in life versus proactive? How does that hit you? Oh, I'm not. Do you think you're a reactive guy? You think you're just by nature or are you a proactive guy? I think more reactive. Yeah. And I agree.
And by the way, there's no wrong or right here. It's a self-awareness tool. I'm trying to get you to a place of what's going on right now. If I was going to boil it down to one thing is you and your wife are reacting to your paycheck. You aren't being proactive. You aren't saying, here's what we're going to do with this money. You're just kind of going...
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Chapter 5: How do I manage finances after a terminal diagnosis?
225 let's go to las vegas and james is there james how can we help hi there uh thanks for taking the call um i we are on step four we were marching towards step six when i was recently diagnosed with leukemia and it's um let's shift shift hey we're blessed in so many ways and and it's uh the slow kind so i'm going to be here for a while but okay taking a shorter term view
on our investment horizon or strategy, we, we have about a hundred thousand dollars where we'd like to set up, uh, so my wife can, can support herself when my income goes away. I'm the primary on this. And so with that hundred thousand, our choices, the way we see it is like recast our current to try to drive that payment down or, or punch out by, by a cheaper house or, or something like that.
And, and just love your take on, on,
Chapter 6: What should I do with $100,000 while facing health challenges?
The strategy is for moving about $100,000 out, putting it to work for us in a shortened time frame. All right, let's gather some facts here. So how much do you owe on your current home, and what is it worth? It's worth about $470,000, and we owe just over $4,000 on it. Okay. And what other investments do you have, or what kind of insurance? Give us a whole picture here of what we're dealing with.
So I have a term life insurance that unfortunately I responsibly bought it about 18 years ago. I got about two years left before it goes away. And so I'm probably not, I'll probably be here for that to expire, thankfully. But then obviously challenged on getting another term. Okay. Have some investment accounts, but we're convinced we should probably let them sit tight for right now.
And there's not very much in there probably. And so the $100,000 is above and beyond your emergency fund?
Chapter 7: How can I ensure my spouse is financially secure?
It's commingled with that. Our emergency fund would be probably $40,000 of that. Okay. So you've got $60,000 to play with here. Yeah. And what would be the goal of this $60,000, if you could snap your fingers?
Boy, well, to invest it in such a way that when my income goes away, that my wife would be able to either have the most flexibility, I guess, either to stay in the current house but not need โ Where we're at right now, her income would not... She'd have to move. She'd have to punch out. What is she making right now? About $40,000. And what are you making? About $150,000. Wow.
Sizable difference there. So part of it is I would begin to make a budget just based off of her income and see what would be a sustainable life without your income being in the picture that she could afford. And that might mean we downgrade severely in-house. Do you guys need to have this house right now or could you downgrade to an apartment? Could you rent? Yes, we could do all that. Okay.
We don't need it. I would be leaning that direction myself. I don't know that a recast is going to change much. You could do it later on, but with not having much equity, it's not going to change the game, and you still would need to make a lump sum payment.
So you might need to take that $60, lump sum it, it'll still cost you a few hundred bucks to do a recast, and then it would bring your payment down. Yep. So it's something to consider. The other thing to consider is a guaranteed issue policy. Have you heard about these? I have not. Okay. This is something that won't give you a ton of coverage.
It is expensive, but it is an option for folks that are in your shoes that can't get traditional life insurance. And so it has a maximum, you know, you might get $25,000 of coverage and it might cost you $1,400 a year. But that's something you can do to at least cover final expenses and help cover a few other things while kind of adding one layer of protection.
But the best thing you guys can do is take the majority of your income and throw it into savings and investments right now while you're still with us. And I hope you're with us for goodness, a long, long, long, long time. And I hope you beat this thing. Me too.
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Chapter 8: What are the best strategies for budgeting for a wedding?
I should be for a while. Good, good. So if you continue making this money, yeah, I mean, what's the mortgage payment right now? $2,500. Oh, I'm going to tell you right now, I would sell this house. You just don't have a ton of equity in it. And it's just something I would, if I, let me just say it this way.
If I was in your shoes, I would be doing that because I would not want Stacy to have to deal with selling the house. I wouldn't have, I wouldn't want her to deal for one second with, with how am I going to live on 40? I'm going to have to do this. I'd want to take all of the decisions away from her and just allow her to grieve and move on with her life. And so I would sell the house.
You guys downsize. You just got a $30,000 raise the minute you guys, you know, and I understand. And if you can pay for something cash, that's where I'm assuming this is that we get something smaller in cash. And it's just, that just is no longer an issue. Your quality of life, as a result of this decision, I would just have to believe is really good.
How does that feel when you run that through your head? It feels good to me. All right. It feels great. And here's the other thing you could do. If you sell this place and you rent, maybe you sock enough money away that in five years, you guys go buy a condo that becomes the thing she's going to live in completely debt-free. That's a good idea, too.
So I like the plan of going, hey, how can we limit her expenses long-term? to where she has a paid for condo, very little, you know, she'll pay an HOA fee, but she won't have to mess with things. Things will be covered. It's an easier life. And I think that's the thing you start aiming for is what does that next chapter for her look like, whether it's five years from now or 20 years from now.
Agreed. And maxing out your retirement plans is going to be a great thing for you guys to do. How old are you, James? 60. 60. Okay. So you have the opportunity to do catch-up contributions with retirement plans and making 190. You guys can put a whole lot of money away, especially if you got rid of the mortgage by renting for a season. Yeah. Yeah, if we got that, for sure.
I can't imagine being in your shoes, James. So we're thinking of you and pulling for you and hope things go way better than even you plan. Yeah. Thank you, James, for the call. Let's go to Cameron now in Tampa, Florida. Cameron, how can we help? Hi. So I'm just wondering if I should be looking to buy a house soon. I'm pretty young. I got a A pretty good job after graduating college here.
I have a decent amount of money saved up. I do have some debt, but I'm just wondering if I should be looking to buy a house soon or if I should just keep renting and waiting. What makes you think, hey, this is the time to buy a house? Mostly because I feel like I'm throwing my money away and renting when I could be putting it towards a house instead. And who threw that myth at you?
Maybe just some friends and family members, I guess. Mainly, I'm just kind of tired of seeing my money go in the trash can when I'm paying rent. I have a different viewpoint. I don't see renting as throwing away money because I know as I've been a homeowner a long time and I rented a long time and renting buys you patience. There's so many benefits of renting. Options, options, options.
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