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Don’t Get “Doc-itis” With Your $378K in Med School Debt! (Hour 3)

01 Aug 2023

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the pods, moving and storage studios. It's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work. that they love, and create actual amazing relationships.

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Dr. John Deloney, Ramsey Personality, number one best-selling author of the book Own Your Past, Change Your Future, and host of the very popular podcast, The Dr. John Deloney Show, where he answers questions about life, mental health, and relationships. Brand new book going on sale today, Building a Non-Anxious Life is on presale right now. It will ship October 3rd.

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And you can get it at RamseySolutions.com. We're throwing in a bunch of extra goodies, about $75 worth of stuff, if you pre-buy it for $20 because it helps us and we appreciate it. And, of course, you're going to get a lot of good, fun stuff, extra stuff if you buy it early. So there you go. It's kind of a fair trade. Open phones at 888-825-5225. Alex is in North Carolina. Hi, Alex.

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Welcome to the Ramsey Show.

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Hi, Dave. Hi, John. Thanks so much for taking my call. Sure. What's up? Dave, to quote you, I've been looking good with no freaking money. And I've been doing it for years. I just discovered your work and I've been following it. I'm on baby steps number two.

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And basically, since I discovered your work, Dave, I mean, from one day to the next, everything I bought and all my decisions from my reckless spending and my bad decisions, Now it just feels weird and sort of brings shame. I mean, I'm driving around in the new car I bought last year. It feels weird. Sitting in the expensive furniture doesn't feel right.

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Things I've bought and stuff just makes me feel uncomfortable, pretty much all because I know I have this big mess to clean up. I think I'll be able to clean up the mess and come out all right, but I guess my question is twofold. Are my numbers right and that I can clean this mess up without changing my lifestyle too much if I can just control my spending behavior?

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And secondly, if I can clean it up with my current income, how do I deal with it sort of emotionally and psychologically, kind of seeing all my past mistakes every day in front of me?

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Okay. Well, how much debt do you have, not counting your house?

Chapter 2: How can I pay off my debt without changing my lifestyle?

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Are you single?

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I'm married.

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Okay, yeah, you probably ought to talk to her. Okay, yeah, you want to talk to her.

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Before you sell her couch. You got to lead with that, man.

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Before you sell her couch, we need to talk about this. But yeah, so it's okay if you're, I mean, I have, okay, I owned a bunch of property before I went bankrupt in my 20s. Most of those houses are still standing. So when I go out to eat in that end of town and we drive by and I go, yeah, I used to own that. And that house is looking at me going, yeah, back when you were stupid.

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And that's been 35 or 40 years ago, you know? And so that house is still telling me I'm stupid or was stupid. But I was stupid back then. And so, you know, when you bought that, you were reckless. And it's telling you you were reckless back then.

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And it might be OK if it's not weird or dysfunctional to have a few things reminding you not to go back to that behavior that, you know, that table says we shouldn't have bought that. And so and, you know, every time I eat at it, I remember not to be reckless anymore. Right. So maybe it's a good reminder in a sense, a milestone, a psychological or spiritual milestone to look.

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But if there's too many of these things telling you you're stupid all day long, it's the thing is that you have to make the items behave in their message. Their message has to be you used to be reckless when you bought me. Now you're not. The old me did that, but the new me doesn't do that. And so if they're – but if they're telling you that you're just – you're stupid.

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No, it was stupid when I bought you, but I'm not stupid now, and I wouldn't buy you again.

Chapter 3: What strategies can help manage $378K in student loans?

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Yeah. And I think your stuff will shut up when you do that. It does. It'll quit yelling at you. It's only yelling at you if it gets a foothold. I have one guitar that still yells at me, but all the others are good. They're all good. Well, you know what? Facebook marketplace. Nope. Nope. Nope. This is The Ramsey Show. Dr. John Deloney, Ramsey personality, is my co-host.

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Thank you for being with us, America. Open phones at 888-825-5225. Lori is in Sacramento, California. Hi, Lori. Welcome to The Ramsey Show.

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Chapter 4: How can I emotionally cope with financial mistakes?

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It's great to talk to you guys today. Thanks for taking my call.

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Our pleasure.

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I'm working on Baby Step 4. And I found myself a financial advisor and I know he's the right one because out of everybody I asked, he's the only one that agreed that I have to pay off my house instead of investing more. He passed that first test. But my question for you is, um, I know that you have the four categories for investing. Um, I'm 61 years old.

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Do we need to adjust that at all for my age? I'm, I'm a little bit behind. So I tend to want to kind of go a little more aggressive to, um,

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gain more or should i just stick with the plan i would stay with those four if it was me um my purse i'm 63 my personal uh 401k is in exactly that it's in those four

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And then just to throw another little wrench into there, he's in the process of pulling all my retirement accounts that kind of spread out at different employers. He's going to pull that all in together. Good. And I didn't realize that I have kind of a big old chunk of a single stock that's done really, really well. And how much of it can I keep?

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Is that in a retirement account or is that just a single stock?

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It's in a retirement account. It's in my Charles Schwab, an old 401k that's rolled over.

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Okay. So it was like a company benefit of that company stock you worked for at the time?

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