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The Ramsey Show

I Have $134K in Student Loans (Hour 3)

31 Jul 2023

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Chapter 1: What challenges does the caller face with $134K in student loans?

27.571 - 54.218 Dave Ramsey

Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the pods of Moving and Storage Studios. It's the Ramsey Show, where we help people build wealth, do work. that they love and create actual amazing relationships. Open phones at 888-825-5225. That's 888-825-5225.

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54.639 - 70.335 Dave Ramsey

Ken Coleman, Ramsey Personality, number one best-selling author of the book Paycheck to Purpose and host of The Ken Coleman Show, is my co-host. The first caller up this hour is Elizabeth. Hi, Elizabeth, from New York City. How are you?

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71.733 - 73.875 Shayna Goldman

Hi Dave. Hi Ken. How are you?

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73.915 - 75.276 Dave Ramsey

Great. How can we help?

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77.278 - 77.879 Shayna Goldman

Yes.

Chapter 2: How should I prioritize paying off my car versus saving for a wedding?

77.899 - 94.975 Shayna Goldman

Hi. So, um, currently I have about $134,000 in student loan debt. Um, I am a single mom and I've been following your shows since 2020 and it's a pleasure being on the show.

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95.436 - 96.617 Dave Ramsey

Honored to have you.

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96.657 - 98.199 Shayna Goldman

What's your, what's your degree?

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99.019 - 99.8 Dave Ramsey

What's your degree in?

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100.06 - 110.654 Shayna Goldman

Um, Yes, for undergrad, I did international business, and then for my master's program, I did a dual master's in accounting and business analytics.

110.674 - 112.658 Dave Ramsey

And you did a dual master's in what, say again?

114.481 - 117.426 Shayna Goldman

Accounting and business analytics.

117.446 - 119.33 Dave Ramsey

Okay, so did you get your CPA?

121.273 - 121.894 Shayna Goldman

No, I did not.

Chapter 3: Is it wise to sell my house for a cheaper one?

132.236 - 141.232 Shayna Goldman

However, just being in the field for about maybe four years, um, it wasn't my passion. So that's also why I didn't pursue it.

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142.514 - 143.877 Dave Ramsey

So what do you do now? What do you make?

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146.08 - 147.283 Shayna Goldman

Uh, in IT finance.

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148.765 - 149.867 Dave Ramsey

Okay. And what do you make?

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152.581 - 155.524 Shayna Goldman

So I've been liking the IT finance.

155.964 - 159.728 Dave Ramsey

What do you make? No, what kind of money do you make? What do you get paid?

160.248 - 166.054 Shayna Goldman

Oh, yes. I get paid $115,000 annually. Okay.

166.174 - 169.217 Dave Ramsey

All right.

Chapter 4: What strategies can I use to pay off my house using car savings?

169.998 - 196.595 Dave Ramsey

Interesting. Okay. Feels like you're pretty dramatically underpaid or underutilizing these degrees. Feels like someone with a master's degree in accounting and a sidebar in analytics ought to be making almost double what you're making in New York City. Why do you feel like you're doing that? Am I wrong?

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197.416 - 209.515 Shayna Goldman

Probably, yeah. You're right. Probably because I did switch industries. So that's a factor as well. Yeah.

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What were you making before?

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213.112 - 217.759 Shayna Goldman

I was making $95,000 a year ago.

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218.08 - 221.546 Dave Ramsey

You switched industries and went up, so that theory doesn't hold.

224.27 - 226.273 Ken Coleman

What does a promotional path look like for you?

Chapter 5: How can I get back on track with my financial plan?

226.353 - 229.298 Ken Coleman

Have you determined what that looks like and how long it'll take to get there?

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231.742 - 242.913 Shayna Goldman

Within the next five years, hopefully I'll get up to a manager position. Definitely long-term director, but it's looking a little difficult right now.

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243.694 - 248.139 Ken Coleman

How much of a bump would you get at that managerial level?

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251.142 - 252.863 Shayna Goldman

I believe maybe $20,000.

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253.544 - 257.428 Ken Coleman

Okay. And are you happy in this type of work now that you made this pivot?

259.788 - 265.016 Shayna Goldman

I'm happier than when I was in before, for sure. The work-life balance is a lot easier.

266.479 - 270.205 Dave Ramsey

Okay. And how many kids have you got?

270.225 - 270.906 Shayna Goldman

I'm sorry, what was that?

271.006 - 272.328 Dave Ramsey

How many children do you have?

Chapter 6: What should I consider when planning my wedding budget?

277.817 - 279.94 Shayna Goldman

She's about to be nine. Okay.

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280.088 - 298.872 Ken Coleman

Do you have a support system around you to the level that you could be getting some side hustle work with all those awesome degrees you have? The gig economy, the freelance opportunities that you have to significantly increase your income are pretty sizable. But do you have the time or bandwidth to do that?

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301.115 - 301.776 Shayna Goldman

Yes, I do.

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302.016 - 303.378 Ken Coleman

You need to get busy with that.

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303.939 - 308.965 Dave Ramsey

And you're not on a budget yet. Are you?

310.666 - 329.778 Shayna Goldman

Um, yeah, so I've been pretty, um, strict with myself. So since like 2020, I paid off my car, which was about 25,000. And also I paid off, um, another 25,000 on student loan. So originally I had 160,000. Okay.

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And you're down.

Chapter 7: How can I balance my expenses as a single mom in NYC?

331.08 - 334.345 Dave Ramsey

And so you're making progress. And at that rate, you'll be done in about three years.

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336.232 - 336.694 Shayna Goldman

Yes.

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336.714 - 345.668 Dave Ramsey

And anything you can do to add to that income-wise is going to speed the rate at which you get out of debt. Way to go. You're a warrior. Get after it.

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347.504 - 364.123 Shayna Goldman

Yes, but, you know, I've been losing a little bit of momentum because it has been a little difficult, you know, being a single mom and also being in New York City and the rent is not that great in price.

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364.764 - 374.895 Dave Ramsey

While you paid off $60,000, that was exactly the same situation. Mm-hmm. Nothing changed except you're just getting tired.

376.85 - 377.972 Shayna Goldman

A little bit, yes.

377.992 - 381.016 Dave Ramsey

Yeah. Okay. So are you from New York City?

Chapter 8: What advice do the hosts give about managing student loans and financial stress?

384.12 - 386.223 Shayna Goldman

Yes, I grew up in New York City.

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386.243 - 388.486 Dave Ramsey

Okay. So your support system is there. Your family is there.

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390.208 - 392.231 Shayna Goldman

Yes, my family is here. Okay.

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392.251 - 413.332 Dave Ramsey

All right. If you're going to stay there, this is the plan. The only other plan would be to move someplace cheaper and make the same money. Obviously, obviously, you can live in a different place with much lower rent than New York City. No kidding. And there are other cost living facts, including taxes and so forth. You could save on as well.

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And if you can make the same money, it would be net net a raise. Right. But you would lose the support system and you'd be moving away from your roots, which you may not want to do. But if you don't want to do it, you got a two to a three year path ahead of you and you're going to be tired. But you have $134,000 hole to clean up and you've already cleaned up $50,000. I'm proud of you.

431.741 - 434.008 Dave Ramsey

I think you're doing better than you think you're doing.

436.233 - 446.144 Shayna Goldman

Thank you. I really appreciate that, Dave and Ken. It's been a tough battle since 2020, so I just have to keep the momentum.

446.164 - 459.458 Ken Coleman

Listen, hang in there. I want to encourage you. You're a mama bear, and I would never bet against any single mom who has done what you've already done, and you can see it's out there, but you can see the end of it.

459.478 - 474.985 Dave Ramsey

Think about where you've come from nine years ago. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You're like a superhero from where you were nine years ago to where you are now. Yeah. I mean, you've got a double mat. You got a double masters. I mean, pretty incredible.

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