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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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My co-host today, Dr. John Deloney of the Dr. John Deloney Show, a podcast on Ramsey Networks that is unbelievably fabulously popular. And, of course, number one best-selling book of Own Your Past, Change Your Future. He deals with the mental health space and the relationship space. And so always a fun one-two punch when he and I get to serve together on these microphones.
Open phones at 888-825-5225. Naomi is in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Hi, Naomi. What's up?
Chapter 2: How can I manage ongoing medical expenses effectively?
Hi. First, I just want to say thank you so much for taking my call. I know that I've been listening to you a lot over the past couple months. I guess I'm a new listener, and it's just so obvious and apparent that everybody there genuinely cares about the people you're dealing with and really tries to help and support. I just find that so inspiring and encouraging in today's society. Thank you.
That's the best compliment I've had today. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. That's true, and thank you for noticing that. How can we help you?
So I'm calling because I have a question about how to deal with or manage ongoing medical expenses. It's not one lump sum. It's not one thing. My son is sick. He's been sick for 10 years, and...
Chapter 3: What should I consider when budgeting for medical bills?
Um, over the course of the 10 years, you know, there's been some ups and downs, but you could say that the medical expenses have, you know, probably averaged about 20% of our income. And, um, yeah. And my husband is, uh, he's a pastor, so there hasn't always been a whole lot of income, you know, to go around the casings. So, um, we don't have a lot of debt. In fact, we, we only own our house.
I don't know how we could, um, afford to do what we do if we had anything like a car payment or anything like that.
So how old is your baby?
Well, now he's 16. He was six.
What's the nature of his illness?
He has chronic Lyme disease. 15% of people who get Lyme disease die. It doesn't go away with the 30-day treatment of antibiotics.
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Chapter 4: Is there a gift tax for 529 contributions?
And he actually got it when he was three and a half, which made it more severe. He didn't get the normal kind of treatment that adults would get, like a strong enough antibiotic.
So he's got some neurological things going on.
Yeah, and he's been up and down. Like, he actually was doing a lot better, and then he got COVID. I mean, he got COVID two years ago, and that put everything way back, set him back to normal.
debilitating headaches and the treatment protocol that we found that had been working for four or five years suddenly wasn't and it's like a whole new amount of medical expenses and things trying to get him back to where he can you know at least function how's his energy level today energy um he he's It comes and goes, but he's better.
He actually, with the COVID, he started getting like debilitating migraines. Yeah, that was three years ago, right?
How is he today?
COVID was like, how old is he today?
How is he today?
He's not as good as he was, you know, in 2020, but he's better than he was at the beginning of 2022. So I guess he's in the middle.
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Chapter 5: How do I decide between paying off vehicles or sending kids to private school?
So here's the reason I'm asking you all these things. Number one, to check on him. But number two, what you're calling about is how to budget for this. And, of course, it's impossible to predict exactly.
But we can say, based on what we know of the history, the COVID episode and the improvement since COVID, based on that, not emotions, but what does logic tell you factually that you think is a reasonable forecast for the coming three or four years that you're going to be paying medical expenses? And I assume you've got a health insurance as well.
So, you know, what out-of-pocket do you need to budget? for a reasonable person that would project what you guys have been facing, because it is a chronic thing you're dealing with. It's ongoing. The only question is how bad it is going forward. Not how bad it has been, but how bad it is going forward.
Now, I know you and I can't project we're not God, but you can tell me, based on his prognosis today, take your mommy heart, which is wonderful, and set it aside for a second. Just look at it from your brain and say, based on where he is today, where do you really think you're going to spend in the next 12 months and 24 months and 36 months? And then just put that in the budget. Monthly.
Chapter 6: What are the implications of building a new house?
If you think it's going to be $10,000, put $800 a month in the budget. Out of pocket I'm talking about. If you think it's going to be $3,000, put $250 a month in the budget. And so, you know, anytime you're dealing with something chronic, I've got a friend that has Crohn's disease. And he's, you know, he's got just a, it's a constant thing. It's a chronic issue.
And he's constantly writing checks. He's constantly making his deductible. He's constantly making his co-pays, right? Because it's just, he just fights with health. It's just, it's sad. It's awful. It's hard on him.
Chapter 7: How should I budget for unexpected medical expenses?
He's tough as nails, but man.
and but that's the thing you got you just gotta you gotta go okay quantify it because you're asking me about the budget so we got to quantify it so six thousand dollars a year 500 bucks a month i'm just gonna put it in the month like i got a car payment and i'm just gonna put it on set it aside i don't need it this month don't need it next month but i'm gonna need it sometime during this 12th it's probably gonna happen and so i gotta get ready and we're just you know and uh it's uh
Here's what's weird. When you do that math and you lay it all out, it will calm you down about his health. Hello?
Okay. Yes, yes, I'm here. Okay. So if the amount I put in the budget, which I would say would, I don't know, maybe like $1,600 a month, but then that just makes our budget tend to not work.
Are you really going to spend $1,600 a month?
Yeah.
That's $20,000 a year.
Absolutely.
$20,000 a year out of pocket, out of pocket.
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Chapter 8: What steps should I take to rebuild trust after financial infidelity?
I didn't ask about last year.
I asked about next year.
You know, I would probably hope for maybe like $15,000 or $16,000 out of pocket next year.
Okay. Then if that's what you're really going to spend, then you really need to put that in your budget.
And here's a hard conversation that y'all are going to have to have. I had somebody call into my show this morning, and we have a very similar conversation. Him and his wife adopted. They had a beautiful two-year-old daughter, and then his wife passed away. And he was set up to be a high-powered accountant, and he had to change his career trajectory to
and take a totally different kind of role because his life changed. And maybe your husband has wanted to be a pastor. He's in it. But reality, financially, is sitting before him saying, you can't continue to make this much money in this kind of job and take care of your sick child. And that's a hard conversation.
It's a conversation that none of us want to have, especially when we feel like we've got a calling. But, man, we've got to look at our kids, and the way I would phrase this is we have to choose reality. We've got to own reality that sits before us. There's a financial reality and a purpose reality. All those things are real.
If you can't afford it, you've got to find something and figure out something else.
And what that guy's facing, what that mom's facing is very real. Very real, very scary. We had a guy named Chris at work here, and he's out on disability. So, ouch. This is The Ramsey Show. Hey guys, if you're wondering whether to buy or sell a home this year, here's what you need to know about the housing market. There's still more demand for homes than there are homes to buy.
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