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The Ramsey Show

No Debt Or House Payment Make For An Exciting Retirement (Hour 1)

21 Jul 2023

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Chapter 1: How can I budget when starting a new job with a lower income?

30.254 - 60.905 Ken Coleman

Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, broadcasting from the Pods Moving and Storage Studio, this is The Ramsey Show. It's where we help you win in your life, specifically your money, your work, and your relationships. The phone number is 888-825-5225. That's 888-825-5225. I'm Ken Coleman, joined by my comrade, compadre, coworker, Colleague. Confidant. Confidant.

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60.945 - 81.611 Ken Coleman

We got five C's there, and he is the one, the only, George Camel with a K, and he's playing hurt today. Got a throat issue going on, but he's not contagious. I've had him screened. I trust you with my life, Ken. And so we've got a – you can't see it here, but I put a little plexiglass thing here between us, so I think everything's going to be all right.

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81.631 - 84.154 Ken Coleman

But he's playing hurt, but I'm glad you're here, pal. I can't miss this.

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Chapter 2: What should I do if my workplace ignores my improvement suggestions?

84.535 - 102.06 Ken Coleman

It's my favorite day of the week with my favorite person. Well, we have a lot of fun, and we're going to have fun today in helping you. So let me set the table. George is the money expert. I'm the work expert, or at least that's what they tell us we are, and so we say it. Don't believe the hype. And so, you know, your work issues are always money-related.

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102.04 - 115.862 Ken Coleman

So if I can help you get unstuck, if I can help you pivot, because your greatest wealth-building tool is your income, and I'm the income guy for Ramsey Solutions and love working with George. So he's got his Gap Kids denim jacket on.

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116.684 - 117.625 George Kamel

Oshkosh bagosh, Ken.

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117.645 - 118.887 Ken Coleman

Oshkosh bagosh. He's ready to go.

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118.907 - 119.769 George Kamel

Credit where credit's due.

119.829 - 122.974 Ken Coleman

I'm trying to look hip with the young sweatshirt today. Young?

Chapter 3: Is it wise to pay off my house before retirement?

123.555 - 139.953 Ken Coleman

Okay. Is it not? I don't know what's hip anymore. Neither do I. Why do I even say that? We are not fashionistas. Well, I put that out there for you to smack me, and you were very kind today. That was a little pickleball for you. I can tell you're under the weather. You can. Yeah. No, I can't. But I do want to get you out to play pickleball.

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139.973 - 142.515 George Kamel

Consummate professionals. You want to come out and play pickleball?

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Chapter 4: What are the benefits of paying off debt early?

142.535 - 148.962 George Kamel

I feel like I wouldn't be good at it. I'm not good at ping pong or tennis, and it tells me I'm probably not great at pickleball. That's probably true, which is why I want you to come out.

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149.222 - 155.588 Ken Coleman

Easy win. I'll stick to radio. All right. Good deal. Dalton is up next in Owensboro, Kentucky. Dalton, how can we help?

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How are you doing? Good. I'm running a little predicament. I start an apprenticeship program, and basically how it works is this job. I work for them for two or three years, and then I basically get the full-time, like, regular job. It's the state police.

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Chapter 5: How can I manage a pay cut for health reasons?

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Okay. So my starting income for this apprenticeship is really low. It's $24,000 is the salary with the possibility of overtime. as much as I want. I have to drive 170 miles round trip every day to work. And so with the salary being so low and the drive so far, I need the most economical way to travel while keeping money in the bank account.

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203.169 - 208.917 Ken Coleman

Is there no option to move closer to this? Because it seems like you're going to be making the move at some point, yes?

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No. So when I actually get the... like state trooper job, I'll be located closer to home.

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217.582 - 221.548 George Kamel

Okay. I see. Okay. Could you, where's home?

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Chapter 6: What strategies can I use to pay off debt faster with extra income?

221.568 - 222.489 George Kamel

Are you renting right now?

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No, I live with my parents right now.

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226.255 - 229.28 George Kamel

So could you go rent somewhere closer to that area for three years?

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No, because the, I mean, it's a big city, so anywhere near it's going to be a big portion of my paycheck. I don't know anyone up there to share a house with.

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240.939 - 244.283 George Kamel

Could you get some roommates and get on Facebook and make some connections?

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That's a possibility. I'm trying to stay home because I don't have to enter lease agreements and all that.

252.532 - 266.727 George Kamel

I don't know that you're going to survive 170 miles for three years, dude. You've got to choose your heart here. That's hard. Really hard. All while making minimum wage at this point. I mean, 24 grand, are you going to be able to survive off of that?

Chapter 7: How should I approach moving for health reasons while managing finances?

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Yeah, I'll be able to survive. It's just going to be tight. So, like, with me preferring to stay at home, I mean, I'm trying to explore all my options here, of course.

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277.933 - 281.316 George Kamel

Is there another option to become a state trooper outside of this?

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Yes, but this program, like, guarantees me a spot to go, like, in the academy. I've already done all my testing.

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290.626 - 293.389 Ken Coleman

Will you have hours where you can work a second job?

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Possibly, but with this position, as soon as I get certified in this position, they offer all the overtime I want to work.

303.81 - 307.26 Ken Coleman

Okay, so how long will it take before you're eligible for overtime?

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Depends when they can certify me. They're going to send me out of state to certify me.

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Do you have a ballpark? Dalton, we're trying to help you out. Do you have a ballpark idea?

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Hopefully within the next half year.

Chapter 8: What resources can help me create a budget effectively?

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I mean, at most. Worst case scenario.

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321.151 - 337.677 Ken Coleman

All right. So here's why I'm digging here. George, here's what I'm thinking. I want to get George in on here because I want George to dive in on the budgeting piece. But let's just say it's six months to get certified. you may be able to drive that, bite a stick, and just keep driving like that, and you're staying at home, keeping your expenses low.

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337.717 - 354.896 Ken Coleman

But once you get the option for overtime, I think you've got to move there because the overtime is going to give you much more income, and you do what George is talking about, one or two or three roommates, and then you're okay. But you are not going to be able to do this for three years. I'm here to tell you. I'd be shocked if you could put up with that mentally.

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Do you know what the overtime would pay?

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The overtime would be the time and a half. So the hourly rate comes out to like 12. So I'd be looking at like 18 an hour overtime.

365.512 - 379.873 George Kamel

Okay. I was just making sure the overtime was worth it even comparatively to getting a second or third job that could pay 25 bucks an hour. But it sounds like that's probably on par. And I would rather you get the experience working overtime so that you're even more equipped when you step into this role.

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Does overtime include things like helping big churches get their people in and out on Sunday? Is that something you can do on the side as well, or is that considered overtime?

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No, that's not considered overtime.

391.59 - 407.413 Ken Coleman

My friend, then I'd be doing security at high school football games. I tell you what, I know policemen who do the old traffic control in front of big churches. It's extremely lucrative. So there's a way for you to make decent money in that three-year period. How old are you?

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