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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: How can I find a house without an HOA?
How are you?
Hi, good. Great to be here.
Cool. How can we help?
I'm currently house hunting, but I do not want an HOA because I want backyard chicken. However, in my price range, I can't really find anything that I like. I want to put 20% down, but I just want to know if I'm being too picky and how do I know if I have unrealistic expectations?
Well, first thing that comes to mind is with an HOA, there's a bunch of clucks, but that doesn't matter. I knew there was a pun in here. Yeah, there had to be something in here. I'm with you. I'm not a fan of HOAs, although I am in a few of them. Lord Jesus, pray for me. Help me. And yeah, I don't blame you. I'm not sure I want to buy a house based on chickens.
What's the heart behind the chicken ownership thing?
Well, most of it is, yes, I don't want an HOA, and also I just want chickens to have their own eggs.
eventually you know many homestead sort of thing yeah so you actually what you're looking for you're actually looking for a small piece of ground and not in a neighborhood more than the hoa issue because i mean you're not going to homestead and have uh multiple farm animals in a suburban situation even if there is no hoa they have stuff called codes usually
Possibly. I just know that New Mexico is pretty lenient on that.
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Chapter 3: What should I consider when paying off my debt?
So, yeah, that's what ends up happening. So, yeah, I think I'd give this a run as a renter. for a year and let's experiment and see if we do want to live out a little bit and have a little bit of acreage and as a 26-year-old young lady be running some farm animals around. That might end up not being as fun and romantic as it sounds like.
Yeah. And I would be working with a good real estate pro as well in your area who can find these pieces. And I mean, your options are going to be more limited. And so you've got to be okay with the consequences of that choice of going, I want a little piece of land and here's what I want on it.
Yeah, but I do think you're probably going to be outside of suburbia. You're probably going to be just outside of town, so to speak. And you can do that. And Albuquerque, that might not be a bad thing. Yeah. You know, it might not be a bad thing. Albuquerque's a great little town. But there's some pretty areas out there, particularly over towards Taos and all that.
It's beautiful over towards the mountains.
so uh it starts to get expensive over there too by the way but yeah yeah so just um but but anytime you've got activities other than just normal shelter involved in your housing like farm or whatever then let let's i always suggest giving her a little rent and give her a little try well our pal christy's story was she got fed up with it in about two years yeah if i recall
Well, and Dr. John Deloney had some chickens, and he just told me there was some kind of rat infestation. They had to get rid of the chickens. That was just the other day. Yeah. His dream of chicken ownership is gone, too.
Well, that's not a credible source, though. John Deloney? John and chickens. That's not credible.
I take all of his stories with a grain of salt.
I think, well, yeah, rat infest. Yeah. Who gets that? Deloney. I didn't know that was a thing. But yeah, Christie's was, I think hers was valid. I mean, she just ran farm animals and got tired of it and then decided I wanted to be like in the city again. And so I think she was glad she didn't own it. Yes. This is the end of the story. So if I recall, I remember hearing the story a few times.
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Chapter 4: Is it wise to get another mortgage?
Okay. How long you had this car?
About... Just over a year.
Did you roll negative equity into it? I did.
Yeah, okay. That's not a way you get that far in that fast. Okay. Yeah. So you already had the... I would get a personal loan at the credit union for $10,000, and I would sell this puppy and get you a hoopty. That's a good start because you got a $750, $800 car payment, and you make $50,000 a year. This is no fun. This is not the definition of fun.
I want you to get your life back, man, and drive like no one else so later you can drive like no one else. Let's get you where you're not broke anymore and then get you a good car. That's how I would do it. This is The Ramsey Show. Well, we just finished the best Entree Leadership Summit week we have ever done last week. It was off the chain.
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Chapter 5: How can I financially prepare for medical school?
I'm great. Thank you so much for taking my call. David Jordan.
Sure. What's up?
So my question is we're in baby step seven and I was wondering if it's okay or if it's violating the principles to get, go back into debt for a mortgage to get a bigger house. So the situation is, um, I've started working again. Our household income went up $70,000. So we're at about $200,000 annual income. We have a net worth of about $800,000.
And our primary residence, our only residence, is worth $350,000 about, and we have over our emergency fund about $100,000 in savings.
And you want to move from $350,000 to what?
To about $750,000 or $800,000. And our current house is like 1,300 square feet plus 1,100 square feet finished basement, and we have five kids.
Well, there's not a principle in the Ramsey process or baby steps that prevents you from doing that as long as the payments no more than a fourth of your take-home pay on a 15-year fixed. Right. I got to share with you the truth. I mean, you make $200,000 a year.
Sure.
You have $100,000 saved. You have $350,000, so that's $450,000. $550,000, $650,000, $750,000. You can do this in three years if you just save it.
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Chapter 6: What should I do if my spouse and I disagree about credit cards?
that are your shortest, best route to a great life of wealth and prosperity. We want you to be there, and we want you to stay there when you get there. So I don't know. But, yeah, technically, we don't tell people.
If you wanted to go upgrade the house and take on a 15 year old. People do it all the time.
They do it all the time. And then they turn around. But I got to tell you, you're probably going to hate it so much. You're probably going to go bananas and pay it off really, really fast because it's probably going to drive you.
But again, if you stay there with five kids, you're going to want to save up really fast to go. We got to upgrade this thing. So either way, it's going to happen.
Yeah, I think that's the way we do it. And either what happens is we either get increasingly motivated and cut deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper to get the thing sooner or or to get to that goal center, or we get decreasingly motivated and we realize we didn't want it, and we abandon the goal, one of the two.
The last time we did this that I can remember where we cut at the Ramsey Place really, really, really deep was about, gosh, I'm trying to think. It was probably 15 years ago when we bought what is Financial Peace Plaza.
Oh, yeah, our old headquarters.
Our old headquarters. And I bought that building for $5 million, and it was the first time I had bought something that expensive.
And there was a timeline to that, right?
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Chapter 7: How can I effectively manage my finances as a student?
Okay. That's why I asked. And how much do you have left in your undergrad?
I have one semester left. I'll be graduating next fall.
So you'll graduate this Christmas, right?
Yes.
Or you're going this summer and you're graduating in September. What are you saying?
I'm sorry? Okay.
You're going to graduate this coming September or this coming December?
December.
Okay. All right. So about six months from now, you're going to be done. And that's 2024. And then 2025 is med school. What's the gap?
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Chapter 8: What strategies can help me pay off my student loans?
Yeah, it's a much better attitude, a much better approach. That's going to save you $150,000 or $200,000, your attitude will.
Yes, I'm hoping so.
No, it will. It will. Because you're not going to do it if you don't. And so we're going to pile up a pile of money. We're going to clear the 40 grand during the gap year. We're going to apply until we get into a place that is the least possible expensive to get a medical degree. Which, by the way, that doesn't hurt you. I've been to a lot of doctors in my life.
I have never once asked one where they went to med school. Never once.
That's something that has been making me a little nervous of these top-notch schools that people kind of say, oh, so here you have better resources.
Yeah, maybe. That's mostly just marketing. I can't even read the font on the frame in my doctor's office. Okay, let alone figure out where he went. He just has good bedside manner, and I trust him. Yeah, it depends.
I mean, obviously, if you're going to do research in some kind of muckety-muck situation where you go to school, it might matter. But if you're going to practice medicine, no one asks the nurse, no one asks the lab tech, no one asks the anesthesiologist right before they stick in the needle where they trained. They just go, are you going to kill me or are you going to heal me?
That's all we want to know, right? And so all joking aside, that's the most overstated bunch of garbage in the world, where you went to law school or where you went to med school. Sorry, boys and girls, but there's life. And now, so you're going to go where you can afford to go the most. Now, so at a minimum, you have limited your student loans to almost nothing. The second thing,
The second component of that I think is already built into your plan after talking to you because you're wise beyond your years is that a whole lot of people, when they're doing graduate work, feel like there's no reason not to borrow the money because they're going to make a lot of money later.
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