Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello and welcome to this episode of The Rest Is Entertainment with me Marina Hyde and me Richard Osman.
Hello listeners, hello Marina. Hello Richard, how are you? Very well, I've got a glass of water, I've got a cup of tea, I've got my podcast partner with me. Yeah. What else could I ask for? Very, very little. In this world. And what should we talk about this week? What shall we talk about? What are we going to talk about? Like we haven't planned it.
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Chapter 2: Why is Euphoria considered a cult classic?
All of whom are now big stars.
And the interesting thing there is when it started out, Zendaya, she was well-known, the other two less well-known, but now as this new season comes out, Essentially, it's a new season of a TV show, which was a scrappy little underdog. And now it's the new season of a TV show starring three of the biggest stars in the entire world.
What's the basic premise behind Euphoria for people who know nothing about it?
Well, I'll just do the very basics so that you can get into the story. But, you know, at the very start when we meet her, she is centered on Zendaya, who plays a character called Rue. She's a drug addict and it sort of follows her journey, her friendship group starts.
things with her family and i won't say any more because otherwise you're spoiling the stories but but but it's teens and their troubles teens and their troubles try in a in a gritty honest open way euphoria is based on an israeli series of the same name they got sam levinson he created it for the us and in large part it has directed a lot of it certainly directed a lot of the new series and wrote a lot of it
and wrote it yes and it's he is the son of Barry Levinson so he's a sort of Hollywood legacy person and Barry Levinson who directed Rain Man Good Morning Vietnam Bugsy all sorts of things like that so weird in Hollywood to have father and son in the same business Very strange.
Yeah. Who knew? Coincidence, isn't it?
It broke a lot of boundaries. Not always positive, I would say, because there was a huge amount of kind of nudity and shock value scenes. I remember, I mean, I think there's one, you have to sign something called a nudity waiver or nudity rider when you're doing these scenes.
A nudity rider? Yeah. It's a hell of a job.
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Chapter 3: What controversies surround the return of Euphoria's cast?
So you've got... The show was supposed to start at seven, as in everyone's supposed to be in their seats and they were supposed to have the screening. I don't think Zendaya turned up till eight, which is the ultimate power move. Everyone else was long in their seats. There are two shots of some of them But there's supposed to be a big, big beef between Zendaya and Sidney Sweeney.
Who knows whether that's true, but they're certainly not in any pictures together. And when you look at it all, you can see, oh, okay, so those two like each other, those two, yeah. And there were so many angles and plot lines just on that and who will arrive and in what order.
It made a sort of Paris fashion show where eventually Rihanna will turn up like two hours later and then the show can start.
Do they all like Jacob Elordi though?
I haven't heard anything specifically about him, I must say. I haven't heard anything specifically about him.
I was reading about the, you know, so when this started, Sydney Sweeney had been in a few things, but not really. This was her proper big break. Zendaya, as we said, had been Disney Club. Spider-Man. And had done Greatest Showman. So she was just breaking through, but I think she's talked about Euphoria and said, I found I was in a place where I could go and
I could only really go in one direction and it was a direction I didn't want to go in.
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Chapter 4: Why did Sam Altman buy a niche podcast for $200 million?
And so she jumped at the chance of doing this. But Jacob Elordi was, I mean, he was a sort of Australian heartthrob and he'd been in a couple of things, but he was out in Hollywood trying to make it.
Chapter 5: What security issues are impacting film sets today?
He was just about to go home. I think his visa was about to run out. He was helping a friend do a self-tape for Euphoria. And then he said, I wonder if I can send him my own video.
self-tape for this so did and just before he's about to go back to Australia gets this part and you know now is an Oscar nominee so it was really really the making of him something else would have made him because he's terrific but this was the show that that really saw him through the skins comparison you made is very very interesting because occasionally a show will come along that will make a generation of actors yeah
And this really, really did in the States, particularly with those three. But Skins in the UK, which, as you said, is a similar proposition, which is this is what teens are really like. And suddenly everything else about teens looks ridiculous. And on that show, you had Dev Patel, who was a non-actor before that. You know, so that was his first thing.
You had Daniel Kaluuya, who had actually done all sorts of things, but was writing on Skins as well. You had Nicholas Holt. who had been in about a boy, but you know, was a was a child actor and was a little nerdy little boy. And then was like, it was like that. Jack O'Connell was in it again and made an absolute generation of actors.
So anything where you have to cast teens to try and be teens seems to be that seems to be the sweet spot for creating a generation of Oscar nominees.
But they do grow up and they've done a time jump for obvious reasons because there has been a time jump. But even the sort of indulgence of peak TV where you had three year gaps between seasons. Actually, the last season of Euphoria wrapped shooting, not transmission, but wrapped shooting almost five years ago. And certain key actors have died. Eric Dane.
Yeah. Angus Cloud died. And again, he was street auditioned, Angus Cloud, which is something they tried to do for this. In fact, Zendaya's part was originally they'd found someone on the street who they thought could play that part. Yeah, he passed away. So there's a lot of behind the scenes drama as well that ties into all of this.
Tell me a bit about Sam Levinson then, because, you know, I keep reading, I keep reading like allusions to this being a troubled set. And we know what he went on to do next, which we've talked about before, which was.
Oh, well, I will have to talk about it within the context, because I think this is quite interesting.
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Chapter 6: How does drone technology affect film production?
It didn't, but you can find it all. You can still go and watch it.
I mean, don't, but you can.
But anyway, so during that time, all of those people became not just, you know, they didn't just have good roles. They became proper bankable, you can open a movie, movie stars. And so it's very, very odd to see people of that heft, I suppose, as in people who can get money for films, which somehow is still...
The benchmark, even though we might say that television has been much more successful or much more reliably successful in recent years. But if you can get money and you can open a film, then you are still huge. And to see all of those, particularly those three on the red carpet is odd now because it seems almost like it's top heavy. Like how can all these people be on this show?
Because each one of those is now a lead in whatever they're in.
It sort of happened all around us. So we know it already that television, especially for a younger generation of actors, has equal, if not more prestige than movies. And this is an object case, and the three of them are happy to co-star in this thing on television because they're not thinking, I could be making a movie instead. They're thinking, no, this is an enormous worldwide...
I'm not sure I think that. I actually think, isn't it interesting that they could all be leading TV series, but maybe they want... Don't forget, TV is a massive commitment, as this more than anything shows. I think it's the commitment that they are less interested in.
Are you really going to sign away potentially seven seasons of something, or however many years, rather than doing lots of high-profile, potentially great...
film projects and I think that's still why they it's interesting that none of these particularly have been doing TV series they've been all doing films because not just because it remains perhaps undeservedly the prestige thing but because actually you don't have to commit to seven years or whatever and wait around while someone goes and makes
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Chapter 7: What legal actions are being taken against drone operators?
Biggest show in HBO history, of course, Game of Thrones by quite some way. And then The Last of Us, funnily enough. And there's slightly different ways of measuring which shows are big. But, you know, Sopranos is number four. This is number five. Succession is number six. Sex and the City, number seven. They've had some good shows, HBO, to be fair, haven't they?
White Lotus must be creeping up there.
White Lotus is number nine as well, which of course is what Sydney Sweeney sort of went on to do next. It's the first time lots of people there who haven't seen Euphoria would have seen Sydney Sweeney.
Yes.
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