Euphoria: Exploitation or Empowerment?

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Marina Hyde 0:00
The rest of this entertainment is presented by Octopus Energy. Admin tends to require a little bit of encouragement, so submitting your meter reading now earns you a spin and the prospect of being quietly rewarded for it.
Richard Osman 0:11
Yeah, you spin, you can win OctoPoints, which you can spend in the Shoptopus. The Shoptopus. I mean, fair play. Fair play.
Marina Hyde 0:18
Or whoever refuses a wheel and the opportunity to get something for nothing.
Richard Osman 0:22
But it's actually one of the mainstays of game shows, wheels, because it has a randomness to it. And I've spent weeks and weeks sitting just working on a wheel, just going, okay, that's an extra 1,000. That would be 2,000. And then you work out how many bad squares there are. By the way, there's no bad squares on the octopus one. But it's a mesmerizing thing. It's so addictive. I know. Watching it. You want to keep doing it.
Marina Hyde 0:42
They slow it down slightly. And then when you watch the contestants leaning in like it's going to make it.
Richard Osman 0:45
difference and like lots of things with octopus energy they're very good at gamifying lots of the sort of just normal stuff that you have to do with your energy provider and getting a free spin and winning octopoints it's a very good example of that with octopus you submit your meter reading you get a spin and a chance at octopoints for money off your bill or to spend in the most aptly named shoptopus
Marina Hyde 1:10
Hello and welcome to this episode of The Rest Is Entertainment with me Marina Hyde and me Richard Osman.
Richard Osman 1:16
Hello listeners, hello Marina. Hello Richard, how are you? Very well, I've got a glass of water, I've got a cup of tea, I've got my podcast partner with me. Yeah. What else could I ask for? Very, very little. In this world. And what should we talk about this week? What shall we talk about? What are we going to talk about? Like we haven't planned it.
Marina Hyde 1:31
Well, we've planned what we're going to talk about. We are going to talk about the return after, even by the standards of peak TV, quite a long hiatus, Euphoria.
Richard Osman 1:41
And Euphoria is one of those shows that lots of people over here have never seen, but they can now see because of HBO Max. And it launched the careers of some of the biggest stars in the entire world. And... There's beef. There's plenty of beef. So we felt that ticked a number of boxes.
Marina Hyde 1:56
There's beef and bin fire, so we'll get there.
Richard Osman 1:58
Beef and bin fire? Yeah. No, that's one of those, like a pub in Hoxton, isn't it?
Marina Hyde 2:02
The beef and bin fire.
Richard Osman 2:03
I'd actually love to go there. Yeah, set up by four Eton venture capitalists.
Marina Hyde 2:07
speaking of venture capitalists we're also going to talk about a podcast which I've actually been listening to has not got a big audience has just been sold for low hundreds of millions of dollars it's only been going 18 months we'll talk about what it is and who bought it and how we could get our hands on low hundreds of millions of dollars Absolutely.
Richard Osman 2:26
And we're going to talk about set security. There's all sorts of trouble on the Harry Potter set with drones kind of taking images of things. But the world of set security and script security and what companies do to protect their IP before it comes out. Yeah. Talking of IP before it comes out. No, because it came out last night. It came out last night. See, that's what you have turned into that you can do a link and I can't. I've lost my linkability. You've taken it from me.
Marina Hyde 2:52
There's only a fine amount of linkability that can't be created or destroyed. It can only be passed from one host to the other.
Richard Osman 2:56
So every time you do a good link, I have to do a bad one straight afterwards.
Marina Hyde 3:01
Euphoria is one of those zeitgeist shows. Well, when it started, it's one of those zeitgeist shows that are kind of a long tradition of kind of transgressive shows about hey this is what teenagers are actually doing and what being a teenager is really like when they come out they instantly sort of make all the other mainstream shows look incredibly vanilla and kind of twee inscripted they're always darker and grittier which always means there's lots of drugs and sex and it comes in I mean I suppose like the early ones like that are things like Degrassi but then get more into something like Skins or 13 Reasons Why it's in the tradition of those shows that's

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