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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Guten Tag. And that was, of course, the national anthem of Germany. And Dominic, this time in the World Cup, the Germans aren't kind of massive favourites, are they? But I mean, when it comes to European teams in the World Cup, the Germans are pretty irresistible. They've won the World Cup four times. They've been runners-up four times.
They have reached the last four 13 times, which is more even than the Brazilians. And as the co-founder of our own beloved production company put it, football is a simple game. 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes. And at the end, the Germans always win. Yeah. And the consequence of that is that football fans certainly have got used to hearing the German anthem a great deal. Yeah, that's right.
There are, of course, other reasons why the German anthem is quite familiar, and that's not to do with football at all, but possibly to do with the history of Germany in the 20th century.
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Chapter 2: Why is the German national anthem considered controversial?
That's kind of music that would appeal to the masses, I suppose.
But also, it's really interesting because if it's a folk song, this is the age of romanticism, the idea that folk songs arise from the kind of mass consciousness of the people. There is something of the romantic there, but also something of the tradition about the God Save the King, that it has risen from... The ancient depths. It's perfectly calibrated.
And for that reason, it's a massive hit. Haydn is very proud of it. It is said that during his final illness in 1809, this was the song that he played again and again on the piano. And his servants actually recorded this as the last thing Haydn ever played before he died. So, Austrian anthem, very popular, continues for decades as an account from the 1840s.
Who does not know the Austrian song, God Save the Emperor? Who has not, with heartfelt emotion, often joined in singing it? It has penetrated the very blood of Austria's inhabitants. All of Germany honours it, and even in foreign lands, the lovely melody has found a welcome reception.
And the welcome reception, people like Beethoven, Rossini, Bruckner, Tchaikovsky, they all write adaptations of it or variations on it. But nobody at this stage doubts that it is Austrian and not German. It is a Habsburg anthem. And so now we get to the point where it turns into a German one. And the guy who does this is a poet with the excellent name of August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallesleben.
What is it? August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben. Very good. It's easy to say, Tom. It's dead easy to say. That was the first take. Listeners, that was Dominic's sixth attempt. So he is from Lower Saxony, from Brunswick. He's the son of a merchant, and he became a professor of literature in Prussia, in Breslau, which was then in Prussia. Now it's in Poland.
Now, Hoffmann – we'll just call him Hoffmann – He's idealistic, high-minded. He's very frustrated with what's happened to German politics after the end of the Napoleonic Wars. So he's a classic German intellectual in the period of the Napoleonic Wars. He's a total German intellectual. Wistful, yearning for all kinds of things that Germany doesn't have. Exactly.
Because what's happened is once the French invaded what becomes Germany in the Napoleonic Wars... you've got a sort of dual process. On the one hand, people were inspired by the ideals of the French Revolution, but on the other hand, they reacted against French occupation.
So this is a huge boost to the idea of German nationalism and the idea of uniting all German speakers in a single state, and a liberal state, so one that will stand up for freedom of the press and democratic citizenship and all these things. So if you're a poet or a literature professor, or in this bloke's case, both, you're absolutely, you know, you're imbued with all this kind of thing.
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Chapter 3: What is the true origin of the German national anthem?
And this actually does start, Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt. And this does not mean Germany over everybody else.
A program for global conquest is not what it means. Right. So what does it mean?
Well, Germany at this point doesn't exist. So the Germans couldn't invade and conquer anybody. Hoffman would have been amazed to hear people say this is militaristic and a call for expansionism. What it's actually a call for, the song is aimed at the people of the different states of Germany, this patchwork, this quilt, this mosaic of very fragmented statelets.
And he is saying to those people, and specifically to their rulers and their governments, that Put aside your differences, your jealousies, your petty regional loyalties and put the ideal of Germany first. So literally, it means Germany above everything else. Let's bury these petty grievances. and unite around a collective ideal.
So it's like the Ode to Joy as the anthem for the European Union. It's kind of implicitly saying, let's bury our differences and celebrate a greater whole.
Exactly. That's what it is. And at the time, this is not a conservative idea. It's a liberal idea. So the people who are singing this song and the people who love this kind of stuff are students, poets, long-haired people of all kinds. They love all this. And There is one other controversial element in the first verse, though, and this is some geographical detail.
Now, I don't know how your European geography is, Tom.
Well, I know where the Mars is.
Yes. Or the Maas, because it's coming up in our next episode. So there's the Meuse, runs down from the Netherlands into France. Then the next one is Die Memel. This is the River Niemann, we would call this now. So that's kind of Poland, Lithuania kind of area. Yeah. The etch is the Adige, that's in Italy.
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Chapter 4: How did the division of Germany affect its national identity?
And I don't forget, until the advent of Bismarck, it's not clear that Germany will not include Habsburg Catholic Austria. In fact, there are lots of people going right into the 20th century who think that Austria should be part of Germany.
And so if that's the case, is his kind of appropriation of the Austrian anthem a way of saying, well, what is good for Austria is good for all Germans, do you think?
Yeah, I think possibly. I think people would recognize it by this point as an Austrian anthem. But don't forget, we've already said there are different composers who have written versions of it. So it's sort of gone viral, I suppose, and is being adapted.
But yeah, I think people would, in Germany, let's say in Hamburg, when they're first singing it by Torchlight, no one says, hold on, this is an Austrian anthem. I think they think it's completely reasonable that a song about the Germans would have an Austrian tune because the Austrians, of course, are part of the German family. That's what they think. Understood.
Anyway, by the time he dies in 1874, Germany has become a reality. It is not the liberal federation that he and his friends envisaged. It's been created by Prussia and particularly by Prussia's minister-president Otto von Bismarck with his policy of blood and iron.
So actually what the Prussians have done, they fight three wars in six years against Denmark, the Danes again, Tom, Denmark, Austria and France. And what they do is they weld together all the German states except Austria in one empire. So there are 25 different states of this empire and the overall emperor is the king of Prussia.
And the King of Prussia, doesn't Prussia have our own beloved national anthem? Or at least it did for a time. It had the tune of God Save the Queen as its anthem.
Yes, it does. So the Prussians do not adopt the sing of the Germans. They see it as a part of the failed, long-haired, liberal experiment of the 1840s. The Prussians have their own anthem. They don't share with the other parts of the empire. It's just the Prussian anthem. And you're absolutely right. The anthem is called Heil dir im Siegerkranz, Hail to thee in the victor's crown.
And it is a direct ripoff of God Save the King. So it goes, Heil dir im Siegerkranz, Herrscher des Vaterlands, Heil Kaiser dir, and so on and so forth. They sing it better than I do. It is not popular outside Prussia. And the southern kingdoms of Bavaria and Württemberg, they're part of the empire, but they still have their own kings. They want nothing to do with this anthem.
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