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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello, everyone. So that was the national anthem of Brazil, one of the great World Cup teams. And we haven't actually had any Brazilian history, I think, since the last World Cup. So it is great to have them back. And Brazil, of course, more closely associated with the World Cup, perhaps than any other team. They've won it a record five times.
And the team that won in 1970 in Mexico, the team with Pele and everybody, often seen as the greatest national side of all time. Even though, Dominic, I think World Cup history specialists generally agree that England would have won that tournament had the CIA not poisoned Gordon Banks, the England world keeper.
I don't think they do. I think they probably do. Anyway, that's by the by. We lost to Brazil, as you will recall, Tom, in the groups.
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Chapter 2: What does the Brazilian national anthem reveal about its history of slavery and revolt?
So people who visit, say, streets are potholed. They're full of rubbish. It's all very chaotic and very violent. And one British visitor called Rio one of the dirtiest congregations of human beings under the sun. If you're a refined, elegant Portuguese courtier, Rio is basically the last place in the world that you would ever want to live. However, you are going to have to live there.
Because in the summer of 1807, Napoleon Bonaparte had lost patience with Portugal's refusal to join his continental system. So this is the blockade, the embargo against Britain to try and drive Britain out of the Napoleonic Wars. And the French and the Spanish in November 1807 invaded Portugal and they basically stormed towards Lisbon.
By the time they got to Lisbon, they found that the entire Portuguese royal family, the whole of the court, most of the political elite had gone. They had embarked on British ships under Sir Sidney Smith. We're talking about almost 15,000 people. And they had sailed off to Brazil. An absolutely unprecedented moment. You know, the entire court fleeing across the Atlantic.
So it's a bit like the plans that were made to remove the British royal family in 1940.
To Canada. To Canada. In the US, exactly. And chief among them are the Queen of Portugal, Dona Maria, who is kind of out of public life. She's got massive depression and mental illness. And her son and regent, who is João, and his son, Pedro. So three generations. And off they all go, and they establish their court in Rio, and here they run their empire in exile.
So this is the first time in history that an empire has been governed not from the metropolis, but from a colony that is in both the western and the southern hemisphere. So it's a sort of really interesting kind of transfer of power from Europe to the Americas. Anyway, 1815, Napoleon's beaten at Waterloo. And a year later, Dona Maria, who is the sort of nominal queen of Portugal, dies.
So now her son, João, is Dom João VI, king of Portugal. But he's still in Brazil. And he's still in Brazil. He's still in Rio. So Dom João is a very shy man. He's very religious. He basically spends all his time listening to sacred music. So listening to anthems. Yeah, he listens to anthems. Exactly. He's got constant panic attacks. He's always depressed.
He wears the same coat all the time, even in bed. He loves this coat.
I mean, I've got to say, he does not sign The Count of Man. He could have taken on Napoleon.
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Chapter 3: Why did the king of Portugal rule from Brazil in the 19th century?
I don't know exactly why the Algoas are plural. Maybe listeners could explain that to me. Now, back in Portugal, the sort of liberal elites in Porto and Lisbon understandably hate this. They're like, why on earth have we ceded first place? Why are we sharing it with these upstarts in Brazil? Also, Portugal's in a massive mess after the Napoleonic Wars. Their harvests have failed.
Their economy's in ruins. They're no longer really top dog in their own empire. They're very cross. And then spring of 1821, they sent Dom João an ultimatum. And they said, come back to Portugal or else, basically. And he said, oh, fine, very disconsolately. And before he left, he called in his 22-year-old son, Pedro.
So this is the future Dom Pedro I. And he says to Pedro, I'd like you to stay in Rio. You're going to be my regent in Brazil. Now, he and Pedro don't get on at all. But this is the only time they ever have any connection because João says to Pedro, Pedro, If Brazil breaks away, it would be better that it is by your hand than by the hand of some adventurer.
Oh, essentially, the king of Portugal and Brazil is basically telling his own son to lead a secessionist movement. Kind of, yeah. That's unexpected.
You could say he's being farsighted. That's another first for Portugal. Yeah, he's being farsighted. He's basically saying, probably Brazil is going to try and break away. I would like it to stay in the family. If it looks like it's going to break away, you'd be on the right side.
So it would be a bit like the Prince Regent being the governor of New York or something and leading the revolution.
George III being summoned back by angry mercantile elites in London and saying to the Prince Regent before he leaves... If the colonists refuse to pay their taxes, put yourself on their side and then it'll stay in the family. So an alternative history in which the first leader of the United States is the Prince Regent. What could have been?
I mean, he's got his own teeth, which is something you could say for him. Yes, that's true. So now we have a very strange situation where Joao has gone back to Lisbon, but Pedro is the top dog in Rio. And Pedro is an interesting character. He's very intelligent. He's very well-read. He loves all the new liberal ideas. He's been reading Voltaire. He's been reading Edmund Burke.
He's also, as is so often the way, spoiled, impulsive, erratic. But he's not hiding out in bed wearing a coat. No, he's not wearing his coat in bed. He's more proactive. He's a bit of a lecher, actually. He's a hit with the ladies. So his coat would not come in handy. Because he's grown up and spent so much of his life in Rio, he cares much more about Brazil than he does about Portugal.
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Chapter 4: What role did slavery play in shaping Brazil's national identity?
They think an empire is the best way to keep this vast, sprawling territory of Brazil intact. And the emperor will function as a focal point. And the emperor will allow us to transcend the regional divisions. It's actually not a bad system. I think it's quite smart. So you've got an emperor. You've got a flag. Yeah. What about an anthem? Well, this is the thing.
Who would you get to write the anthem of your new country? And the answer is you want somebody who's really invested in it. Somebody who's already shown himself to care a lot about independence and a man who will defy physical discomfort to do his bit for his country. Does Don Pedro write it? Don Pedro himself writes the tune for the new anthem, which is called The Hymn of Independence.
Now, it's possible and indeed likely that he had help from court musicians. But as far as I can tell, there isn't a single Brazilian historian who seriously doubts that he wrote it. He did write it himself. So he's the most musical emperor since Nero. Yeah. He didn't write the words, though. So the words were written by a poet and newspaper editor called Evaristo Ferreira da Veiga e Barros.
And it's incredibly long, this first anthem. How long is it? It's not as long as the Dutch. It's probably about eight verses or 10 rather than 14. What's the standard of the lyrics? Poor. I think really poor. I think actually Don Pedro comes out better than Evaristo Ferreira de Vega y Barros. because some of the, I'll give you an example of the lyrics.
The august royal air, knowing the vile deceit in spite of the tyrants, wish to stay in his Brazil, in spite of the tyrants, in spite of the tyrants, wish to stay in his Brazil. That's one verse. Pedro, show your face, your bold and virile soul. We have in him the worthy chief of this empire of Brazil. We have in him the worthy chief. We have in him the worthy chief of this empire of Brazil.
It's not a banger.
It's not a banger, but you can see the appeal of it to Dom Pedro, I guess, if there's going to be an anthem in which he's being praised for his bold and virile soul.
Exactly. Exactly. For the next nine years, this is the sound of Brazilian freedom. But bad news for fans of Dom Pedro. The first. All is not well in his Brazil. Because I said at the beginning how violent and unstable it is. Throughout the 1920s, there are a series of revolts. There's a massive revolt in the northern province of Pernambuco.
And the rebels there call for a separatist confederation of the equator, which has to be put down by the army. I mean, this is so South American. There's then a big blow to his prestige in 1825.
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Chapter 5: How did the first and second Brazilian anthems symbolize liberty?
But he also grasped. that the empire of the Aztecs was vulnerable and he took his men inland and he was able to bring down the Aztecs with just a handful of men.
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top tunester pedro the first so what are they now going to do about this anthem that he's left them which is basically him of praise to his virility and strength and wisdom and stuff they can't prove himself to be useless hasn't he so they've got and the thing is they can't use new words for the anthem because he wrote the tune and it would be insane to have a tune
written by the bloke you've just kicked out. Well, unless it's really good. Well, it's not that good, I don't think. It's not that good. I think it's just generic early 19th century sort of jolly music. But there's good news. A local composer is already on the case. This is one of my favourite Brazilian composers of the 1820s, Francisco Manuel da Silva.
Now, Francisco Manuel da Silva actually knew Don Pedro I because he had played in the chapel orchestra at the Imperial Palace. But clearly he wasn't a fan of the Emperor, because as soon as the news of the abdication broke, Silver had started writing a celebratory hymn. And it took him six weeks to do it. He premiered it at the Sao Pedro Theatre, St. Peter Theatre.
And then he performed it again at a special gala, along with a drama entitled The Fall of the Tyrant.
Okay, that's ungrateful.
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