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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of James Comey's indictment?
It is used in restaurant language, 86, for killing an item on the menu. There are no more pork chops. 86, the pork chops, we haven't got any more of those. It doesn't mean go out the back of the restaurant and take an AK-47 and shoot the pork chop. That is not what that phrase means. Calm down, Mr. Blanche. You've got acting attorney general. That's pretty good. He'll probably give you the job.
But you don't need to disgrace yourself because in about six months time, this is going to be a lamed up president. And in two and a half years time, he will not be president anymore. And you have been in law enforcement, both of you, your whole life.
Do you want to have it on your legacy that you were the person that wrote such a fanciful indictment as to suggest that a photograph of seashells is, beyond reasonable doubt, intent to cause bodily harm? I don't know if I was very soft and touchy-feely with them though. I'm not sure I did quite enough spiritual guidance.
No, you were great. My grandmother would have taken the wooden spoon, for all you Italians listening, my grandmother would have taken the wooden spoon, she would have bit her finger like this and ran into the room and clobbered the two of them.
Chapter 3: How does Trump use social media to influence public perception?
But I now have to ask you another question because now I'm on the street and I'm walking. Someone says hello to me. I like your podcast, but I think you're dead wrong, Anthony. I said, I'm dead wrong. What am I dead wrong about? You're talking about letting things go and you're talking about not going after these miserable SOBs. How do you say that?
Don't you feel that these people should be prosecuted for their corruption, for their wrongdoing, and for all of the different things that are going on in the Trump administration? And what I'm worried about is the Lula-Bolsonaro situation, right? Where we build jail houses and jail cells for each of our political adversaries and we go back and forth. Lula's in jail.
Comes out of jail, wins the presidency. Now he wants to put Bolsonaro in jail. And you're going to go back and forth building jail cells for each political adversary that you have. But, Cady, should the Democrats, if they take power again, annihilate these people?
So look, I think that I actually had a really interesting conversation with somebody about exactly this this morning. And I think they're going to have to be careful to resist the calls from the base to go after everybody, particularly people in the Trump family. Now, Donald Trump's already said he's going to pardon anyone who has been in spitting distance of the Oval Office already.
So we know he's going to pardon all of his family. He's going to pardon all of his mates. So you're not actually going to be able to do very much to do with Trump and his family. I think this calls for a real review and may well do after the midterms of the presidential pardon, because I suspect we're going to see an awful lot of people getting pardoned.
But they're going to have some choices to make. If they go after everybody blanket, it's going to look like this is just a continuation of the witch hunt. Look what it did for them when Joe Biden was out of office. And by the way, Is it dumb of Jeanine Pirro? Is it done of Todd Blanche purely from a legal scholarly point of view to launch these indictments?
Yeah, this doesn't read like serious law legal issues, but it's not illegal of them to do this. What they're going to have to figure out is where to subpoena people, I think, focusing on one big issue, and that's the corruption issue. Do they go after people for corruption and do they go after people who have clearly committed crimes?
And do they go after people they can actually have an impact on because they're going to have to watch out for who Donald Trump has indicted?
But I think if they go after everybody and they spend the whole of the next two years not focusing on affordability for Americans and trying to do something about that ahead of 2028 and not focusing on corruption, which I think is a valid area for them to focus on, the corruption of the oligarchy, then I think they're going to be in problems.
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Chapter 4: What does the indictment reveal about the Justice Department's actions?
Oh, no, we have to prosecute and we have to drive them as crazy as they're driving us or driving the Republic. No, we have to. Create new process caddy and we have to create new regulation and laws and perhaps even some greater independence of the Justice Department away from the executive branch now to clean this up. Do you agree or disagree with that?
I agree that the Democrats in the House, if they take back the House, which we're all assuming they will at this point, will be under enormous pressure to launch subpoenas left, right and center all over town against Trump and the people who've been making money around him and against people in his Justice Department.
We know that they want to subpoena Pam Bondi already for being in defiance of the Epstein Act, for example.
I think one of the things that you and I have spoken about on this podcast when it comes to really trying to understand what the lasting implications of this Trump presidency are on the United States, one of the things that I have been most concerned about is the breakdown of the firewall between the White House and the Justice Department and the expansion of presidential powers that
the King made a little reference to in his speech, and that whoever comes in next, whichever Democrat is elected in 2028 is going to come in and think, I would be stupid not to take some of those powers for myself.
Because the Republicans have done it to us and now we have to do it to them and they will sell this as we need to restore law and order and we have to do that by showing that we will prosecute people who have broken the law and by going after people that have broken the law and if we don't we are not enacting a campaign of law and order ourselves.
the biggest damage that Trump has done will be tested by whoever takes over from him. And if that person thinks, assumes they have to act the way Trump has done, or if they have to act in a way that is more driven by commitment to the country and purpose and civility and respect for the norms and traditions of democracy, not just the laws of democracy. And
I can see whoever is being elected as a Democrat thinking, wow, look at all that power you can grab if you have no respect for the traditions of democracy and if you are shameless. I would be a mug. I would be a fool politically not to use some of that power myself. I hope that doesn't happen, but I can see that being the debate that plays out in 2028.
Katty, do you think Todd Blanche and Jeanine Pirro are going through the vendor list on amazon.com right now? And if you just search up 8646, which is obviously the reference to Joe Biden, are they going to now prosecute and indict every one of those merchandise vendors that are selling hats and t-shirts and stickers that say 8646? Is that going to happen, Katty?
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Chapter 5: How is Trump's approach to political retribution perceived?
What did you think of it? I know you liked the king. I'm sure you liked it.
I like the King a lot. I don't, I've never met the King, but I have an enormous amount of respect for him because, you know, you know what it is, Caddy, you got to stay in the job. You know, the turtle wins the race. He's been in the public domain for 50 years. It was a great picture yesterday of him with Richard Nixon, the 37th president.
I thought that was great in the Oval Office. The Oval Office looking a little less blingy.
Liberace didn't influence Richard Nixon the way he did Donald Trump. But here is a sentence that I wrote that wasn't in the King's speech, but was in the King's speech. This is what I love about you Brits, right? You say things without saying them. And this is a Long Island decoder ring. And so I'm going to read you the following sentence, okay? Because he threaded it back to his mom.
and the 1991 speech that she gave to the Congress. So now he has this once-in-a-generation opportunity as a monarch to address the Congress, and he doesn't lose the moment. He excels in this moment. But here's a sentence that I wrote that I want to read to you. Ready? In 1991, my mother, Queen Elizabeth, came to the Congress that had just won the Cold War. It's 2026.
Her son is here to come to you to tell you that you're busy losing the peace. Now, you didn't say that, Caddy K. And you're laughing because that's too Long Island for a British model. Look at you. You're even going back on your heels a little bit. Look at you. He didn't say that, Caddy K, because that's not British, Caddy K. But let me tell you, that's what I heard.
And I thought it was brilliant because he did delicately say... be unyielding in Ukraine, be unyielding for NATO. He did explain, he's been a champion of climate preservation his whole life. He did talk about the mosaic of the country and the beautiful diversity.
He did, he didn't mention it directly, but he definitely doesn't endorse the war, so much so that Trump had to say that the King and I agree on the war. And of course, Buckingham Palace had to announce a statement this morning saying, no.
They got a little nervous about that. Right.
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Chapter 6: What were the key points from King Charles' speech to Congress?
No.
Do you think he is?
No, he's not pissed about it. There are certain people, I mean, maybe he will go after Mamdani, as you said in the first half of the show, but there are certain people he forgives. They can kind of get away with saying whatever they want. I mean, obviously, if he'd been very rude to Trump directly, he wouldn't have liked it.
But I thought actually what Trump said in the Rose Garden when the King arrived about his mother and wondering what would my mother be thinking looking down, he clearly felt enormously proud. He really does have this kind of affection for the monarchy. I think it's sort of just affection for his mother. It's this love of his mother that translates into something his mother loved.
It's interesting psychology.
He also is enamored with the pageantry of the whole thing and the process.
Would kind of like to be a king.
Exactly.
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Chapter 7: How do American politicians react to a British monarch's address?
No matter how much gold leaf he puts in the White House, he's never going to have the riz of the royal family from the United Kingdom. And so, you know, there's some of that. So, no, he's not pissed. But I wrote one more sentence because I was really trying to think about this process. from a Long Island. You don't say Long Island on Long Island. You say Long Guy-land.
Okay, so from a Long Guy-land perspective.
Long Guy-land.
Okay, yes. I'm going to give you one more sentence. Yesterday, a British king stood in the United States Congress and defended the American century better than the American president has in the last year. And, Cady, that tells you everything about where we are today in our world.
And when Harold McMillan turned to Jack Kennedy and said, you know, we're Athens, you're Rome, even though Trump is older, I believe, than King Charles, I believe he is, King Charles and the nation of the United Kingdom is the older brother of the young rebels with a cause, the United States, and he was showing them the way yesterday, whether they like it or not. And you know what? J.D.
Vance, he didn't like it. He wasn't cheering. J.D. Vance was stirring in his seat, and Mike Johnson was looking at him, the sycophant Mike Johnson was, I'm barking like a seal. J.D., why are you not... Why are you not barking like a seal? And why was J.D. Vance not barking like a seal, Katty Kay?
Because J.D. Vance understood what the speech was actually about.
Correct.
Because he is actually smart enough to hear what was being said. But listen, anyone who can turn up in Congress and say, by Jove, Mr. Speaker, and get away with it, gets my vote. It was a good speech. References to Oscar Wilde, Charles Dickens, Abraham Lincoln. It was all there. Great sense of humor. They loved all of that. Very well delivered.
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