521. Trump’s Naval Blockade: Is America Becoming a Rogue State?

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Alistair Campbell 0:00
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Rory Stewart 0:23
What's beginning to happen here is an America which doesn't even pay lip service to global norms, in fact celebrates outrageously, chaotically defying them.
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Alistair Campbell 3:07
Welcome to the Restless Politics with me, Alistair Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart. Back from his holiday.
Rory Stewart 3:13
There's been some requests from listeners for whether Alistair ever takes holidays, but that's maybe more of a question for question time than the main episode, where we're going to be focusing on what's happening with the blockade that President Trump has announced of the Straits of Hormuz, the next stage in this conflict with Iran. And then we're going to get on to Ukraine, and in particular, your recent interview with President Zelensky, extraordinary scoop to get an interview with Zelensky. And the issues we're going to be looking at are, number one, what on earth is going on in Trump's head? Late at night, in the morning, is it possible to predict his next moves? Secondly, what does this mean for the global economy?
Rory Stewart 3:51
We haven't begun to get into the consequences for the And thirdly, I'd like to get into this question of, is the US literally becoming a rogue state now? And how does the world respond if the United States becomes a rogue state? Quick explain on Iran. So since the last episode, Trump having threatened the end of civilization and the obliteration of Iran,

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