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Knicks Win it All with Ben Stiller! | Real Ones

14 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: How did the Knicks finally win the championship after 53 years?

5.178 - 18.036 Logan Murdock

What's popping, real ones? Logan Murdoch here. Howard Beck in a few. Ben Stiller in a few few. One of the all-time real ones. The New York Knicks just pulled off the incredible.

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Chapter 2: What were the standout performances in the NBA Finals?

18.056 - 44.376 Logan Murdock

I have no words. This was just such a great season from them. Me and Howard get into, you know, what we saw throughout the series and the final game. And then my buddy Ben Stiller comes to tell us what this all means for the city of New York. You know we're not fucking around on real ones. You know how we do. I'm not, without any further ado, Cliff Victoria. Play the theme music. What's poppin'?

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44.696 - 74.328 Logan Murdock

Real ones. Logan Murdoch here in my beautiful, beautiful, cozy home at Howard motherfucking Beck. There, live from the NBA Finals after the Knicks. Probably biggest win in organization history. Um... I don't really have any words for this. The first championship since 1973. Howard Beck is on site right now. Just what is the emotions right now in San Antonio as you're going?

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74.388 - 83.92 Logan Murdock

I had a whole thing that I was going to go into and all this will equally, but like just you're there. What is going on? How do you feel? What is this? What was this moment like on the ground?

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84.457 - 107.449 Howard Beck

I don't even know how to describe this moment, Logan, because this is the 24th NBA Finals I've covered, so therefore the 24th championship ceremony that I've been present for, but I have never seen one where the team clinched on the road and then celebrated with, I don't know, probably 8,000, 10,000, I don't know how many Knicks fans were in the building, but this place did not empty out.

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107.77 - 130.233 Howard Beck

The Spurs fans mostly left, the Knicks fans stayed, and the building still felt damn full. Absolutely incredible. An incredible clinch anyway. It was everything that the Knicks have exemplified throughout this run. Just they're never out. Double digit deficits mean nothing. Jalen Brunson can apparently score anytime he wants to.

131.074 - 139.661 Howard Beck

And they turned whatever they're calling this building now, the Frost something center used to be the AT&T Center.

Chapter 3: What does Jalen Brunson's MVP win signify for the Knicks?

139.961 - 144.265 Howard Beck

They turned it into like Madison Square Garden, Texas edition.

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144.464 - 147.87 Logan Murdock

That barn in the middle of San Antonio, just in the country.

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148.01 - 151.155 Howard Beck

It's not even the middle of San Antonio. Outskirts of San Antonio.

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151.876 - 152.878 Logan Murdock

Somewhere in a 210.

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153.699 - 173.766 Howard Beck

They're building a new one. They can't abandon this place soon enough. But I think the Knicks absolutely... owned the night, obviously owned this series, winning it in five, winning their first championship in 53 years. And I think one of the other things that was just really cool in watching this unfold and close out, Patrick Ewing was here.

173.806 - 192.934 Howard Beck

I got a chance to chat with him a little bit ago before we started recording. Alan Houston is here. Guys who were like these 90s icons who got close, who were in the finals and couldn't seal the deal, but they're still attached to the organization. And I felt like it was almost like their emotions were just as strong as what you saw from Jalen Brunson and OG Ananobi and Carl Anthony Towns.

Chapter 4: How did the Spurs' youth impact their performance in the Finals?

193.255 - 197.961 Howard Beck

And there's just this, you know, generations of Knicks who are attached to this.

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Chapter 5: What was the atmosphere like during the Knicks' championship celebration?

197.941 - 201.709 Howard Beck

who kind of feel like some, some ownership of, of, of their own, I think too.

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Chapter 6: What does Ben Stiller think about the Knicks' victory?

201.889 - 219.544 Howard Beck

So that was really neat too. But yeah, mostly my, my, my main impression walking out of here is going to be a holy crap. Like not only do they pull this off, but they pulled this off as like a road team that doesn't just dominate the court, but dominated the whole damn building.

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256.312 - 262.118 Howard Beck

I did chat with friend of the show, Ben Stiller, for a little bit. Again, just like minutes before we got on. He's been ducking us.

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262.399 - 265.342 Logan Murdock

I don't know if you broke that, but he's been ducking us.

Chapter 7: How does this championship affect the Knicks' legacy?

265.902 - 279.177 Howard Beck

Dude, the man is busy. He's walking out of here with the coach's clipboard. One of the assistant coaches handed it to him. He had it tucked under his arm. I said, how did you get that? He's like, one of the coaches gave it to me. I'm getting it framed. I want them all to sign it. But it was only a dry erase pen on it.

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279.237 - 298.806 Howard Beck

So it would be pointless to have them sign it with the dry erase because it would just disappear. Ben seemed delirious. His eyes seemed a little red. He was still holding a cigar and I think soaked in champagne and cigar smoke. I'll get back to some of that. But it was just...

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298.786 - 301.989 Ben Stiller

No, keep going. Keep going. What was, what was going on? Give us sides.

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302.549 - 320.526 Howard Beck

Well, no. So the, the normal championship procedure after this happens is the media wait outside the locker room. Then the media is let in. We're in there to watch them like burst the champagne and the beer and everything else and celebrate. And then you talk to the players in the locker room. Obviously some are going to the press conference, but you're getting a lot of guys in there.

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320.606 - 326.852 Howard Beck

You're, you're getting to feel the celebration. The Knicks are the first champion. And again, in my time doing this or that I've,

326.832 - 351.591 Howard Beck

aware of and listen i've covered the losing locker rooms in time so i can't vouch for this entirely but i'm pretty damn sure this was the first one in which the media was completely shut out and isn't that just like the nicks i promise on a celebratory night this will be the only uh negative observation i make about them but they kept us shut out ben was in there we were not um ben is obviously a friend of the franchise and is doing a documentary that he's now publicly talked about

351.571 - 379.182 Logan Murdock

um so uh he was soaked the rest of us got in there and like the celebration was already over so that's typically what happens on championship nights like where i remember being one in cleveland and you're literally it's a delirium and then once the ever the media gets in typically that's when the team goes out so you're just in this empty room but some players are you know in corners and like it's kind of like a biblical experience if you've ever been in one of those types of things

Chapter 8: What does the future hold for the Knicks and their key players?

379.162 - 405.54 Logan Murdock

There's just so many different things and different storylines that are happening in real time. It's like you're in a history book just manifesting. But speaking of which, let's get to some of the game. We got to start with Jalen Brunson. The finals MVP, 45 points. The first 45-point game in a closeout series since 98, and that was Michael Jordan against Utah. And it was funny, like,

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405.79 - 424.666 Logan Murdock

when I saw that he had the final tally of 45, that was the first thing I thought about was the 98 Jordan, right? Where he was literally carrying this offense and carrying this team throughout this series, right? He was their offensive NGO, G and Ananobi notwithstanding, but he was their guy. Um, and yeah, just so much that he is, is gone through, right.

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424.706 - 444.96 Logan Murdock

The trade, uh, from Dallas and, you know, I, myself, I was skeptical of what he could do, um, with the Knicks as being the lead guy. Right. And then he's, he's the face of this new, um, generation of the front office and, and, and the Knicks that we don't lead by Leon Rose and worldwide West is also in there. Right. And there's

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444.94 - 469.355 Logan Murdock

all this uncertainty and he brings certainty into this organization and also is the face of an organization that has a competent front office after all of these years and then you see him carry a team like the Knicks who one of the great playoff runs in NBA history. It's up there with the old one Lakers that you covered Howard, the, um, the 16 and one warriors that I was around.

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469.656 - 488.683 Logan Murdock

It's right up there. And this is probably a little bit more special in a lot of ways, just because it was New York. And just because in a lot of ways we didn't see this coming. Um, but Jalen Brinson is the face of all of that. What was it like to see, you know, him in that moment where, uh, you know, you see him in the hallways and going through types of things. And like, what is,

488.663 - 496.271 Logan Murdock

What is his legacy on this series, and what are we going to look back on when we think of Jalen Brunson in this final series, and by extension, his postseason?

496.291 - 523.049 Howard Beck

You can't describe what this Knicks team is without starting with Jalen Brunson, because obviously this whole era starts with them signing him after Dallas failed to lock him up, right? One of the great just miscues or just bumbling by the Mavericks. Like, how do you not lock up the guy that you drafted in the second round and help develop? And it could see this coming on some level.

523.21 - 552.194 Howard Beck

Nobody could see all of this coming, obviously. But my gosh, we could litigate the Mavericks and all their dumb decisions another day. But Jalen Brunson does not project as physically, athletically, in any way, the typical NBA superstar, right? He has been said to be too small. Clearly not the case. We need to maybe put aside or bury the get a small guard, lead a team to a championship narrative.

552.695 - 570.078 Howard Beck

Now, if it's the right small guard, if it's a really special one, obviously that negates all of this anyway. But you said it a minute ago about like this is a kind of a championship that we didn't really see coming. And you could see the outline of it, Logan. You could see the Knicks. They were in the conference finals last year, obviously. So they were they were a contender.

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