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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
What's poppin'? Real ones. Logan Murdoch here.
Chapter 2: What insights do we gain about Jalen Brunson and small guards?
Howard Beck and Raja Bell in a few. Raja's return. We basically just ask the biggest questions about the finals and get them answered. What do we think? It's a big finals retrospective. Last pod, we gave you the in-the-moment perspective. It was a little loopy. Um, it was awesome. It was all those things.
But now that we kind of have cooler heads, we want to bring Roger back into the fold and kind of just like the shoot this shit, man. Um, we talk about, uh, the finals itself. We could get a, get a really animated discussion about Wimby. Um, and just his, his, uh, villain arc maybe, uh, And then talk about Mike Brown, talk about Darren Fox. Just kind of regroup and just do a little level set.
Went a little long this pod. It was a lot of fun though, man. It was great to see Roger back in the fold. It was great to have our brothers back. And it was fun, man. Without further ado, Cliff, Victoria, play the theme music. What's poppin'? Real ones. Howard Beck over there. Our brother. Our guy. Our homie.
Chapter 3: How did Wemby become a villain during the playoffs?
Our big... My big homie. Roger Bell is in the motherfucking house. What's up, man? Missed you.
How you doing? Chilling. Yeah, I'm doing good, man. Good to be back off the road. Like, everything is good. It was a good couple weeks on the road with my son Ty.
The whole world has changed since we last saw you. The Knicks won the championship.
Nothing's the same. Nothing's the same, man. My wife is as big a Knicks fan as there is. So, yeah. I mean, it's a good time to be a New York native, a fan of the Knicks. I would imagine the tri-state area, everybody kind of claims a little bit. So, yeah. Congratulations.
What was that like for you, though, man? We talk about Brinson. We talk about Wimby throughout this postseason. But what was your experience watching the finals, the last two games, the four and five while we were gone? What was that like? What were the biggest things that stuck out for you?
Yeah. Uh, shoot.
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Chapter 4: What is Mike Brown's coaching journey and its significance?
I don't know. It was, it was hard for me because like I was, I was in gyms, you know? So I wasn't getting, um, I was at the MBPA top 100 camp. Um, and then I was at section seven in Arizona. So like, I wasn't always able to sit there and really watch a game the way I needed to watch a game. Um, But in fairness, I can't break it down like that because I'd just be making shit up.
But what stuck out to me was just the resiliency overall of the Knicks squad.
Chapter 5: What are the highlights from the Real One of the Week segment?
I do think I made a bit of a mistake with how Jalen was going to be able to figure out offensively how to be himself. I thought that the Spurs had done such a great job on Shea and he never seemed to get a great beat on it. I thought... Jalen would just quite frankly struggle a little bit. I still thought the Knicks would be okay, but I thought he would struggle.
I think the Spurs showed a lot of the things that we came into the playoffs worrying about whether they would rear their head in terms of inexperience and just lack of depth of experience on that team from the top to bottom, I think showed up in ways that cost them.
Chapter 6: What role did the Knicks’ championship play in the NBA landscape?
And that's to be expected. I thought, I think, quite frankly, the fact that it didn't show up more prevalently earlier in the playoffs is... is kind of remarkable. But I think all of those things were kind of takeaways for me. And then the city, I mean, just the city was on fire. That was out of control.
Yeah. It's so funny that the Jalen Brunson discussion has so many different elements that we can go to.
Chapter 7: How does the episode connect to the broader context of the NBA?
Out of all the players that he has compared to, the Lucas, the Anthony Edwards, all the smaller guards, He's the first one to win a title. And one of the things that we talked about throughout this postseason, Raja, and you in particular, we were talking about just like small guards and can they get to it, right?
And can you win with a small guard when, you know, and we know this about San Antonio, they were basically just blitzing Brunson any chance that they got, right? What do we learn about how a small guard can be successful in this league? And what did he show you just from that type of standpoint where, they are blitzing him, and it seems to not matter down the stretch of games, right?
Because that was the biggest thing, right? The Spurs won every quarter except for the fourth throughout this whole series. How did you see that going?
Chapter 8: What lessons can teams learn from the Knicks' title win?
Yeah, I've never been the small guard can't win, and people are going to immediately be like, oh, yes, you did, but that's not what I – two small guards. You're not winning. One small guard, like one small guard, they've won. I mean, Isaiah Thomas won. You know, like people, people, I'm just trying to think, Steph, Tony Parker, like small, you could have, now small is relative, right?
But like, that's, it's not a problem. It's when you put two small guards out there that becomes that defensive, real defensive liability. Yeah. then I start to wonder whether you can get it done. I think whenever you have your primary player being a smaller guard, you just have to get the recipe right around them. The roster has to be built in a way that... can account for that and support that.
And to a large degree, I think the Knicks as a collective were supporting Jalen in a way that he needed to be supported when he was trying to work his way through figuring out the best way to attack what San Antonio was doing to him defensively until he got his feet under him and then just started saying, fuck it. Like, here's what they're giving me. I'm going to go ahead and take that.
And so for me, that's what it becomes, right? Like, But if your primary offensive threat is going to be a relatively small guard that has some, and this isn't a Jalen thing, this is just in general, that is also not great defensively, you just have to get it right with the rest of that roster and the way you're built. And the Knicks did that.
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It's always funny to just see, like, star players in general kind of work their way through the finals, right? And, you know, you've seen it... You know, particularly, I saw it firsthand with Steph.
You know, you've seen it, I'm sure, with Tony Parker and other guys where they have to find their way within a series because the finals are a different beast where this is the best scouting that you are going to get against your game, right? And...
Um, that's why you always see like the first couple of games of a final, especially from a star player or a number one option is always a feeling out process, right? You saw that with Brunson when he took 31 shots, uh, then he finally kind of got his rhythm towards the end of the game.
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