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Updated Rookie Comps | Group Chat

03 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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hello and welcome to group chat i am justin verrier and joining me rob mahoney j kyle man and gentlemen this is march we've reached it kyle this is your time how you feeling Very good. I got, I was tweeting about this.

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I got sucked into a, I'm just prime prey for these types of things, but you know, any kind of highlight reel of, you know, Bill Raftery saying onions or, you know, March Madness buzzer beaters. It was like midnight last night and I was just sitting there watching them.

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Chapter 2: What updates are there on Cooper Flagg's performance?

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So yeah, man, I'm getting, it's in the air. You can just kind of, you know, smell the, whatever it is, whatever your way of like getting the sense for the vibe. Probably psychosphere. Right now.

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Uh, I think it's the smell of my own elitism coming out because it's one of those things where as Kyle is talking about the insane that shit that he is doing at midnight on a Sunday night, which is digging up highlights that I have no reference point for or interest in. It's like, I think I'm better than that, but obviously I'm not better than that.

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I'm just looking at see on James highlights instead. And I think somehow that makes me superior. I should make our upcoming NBA draft discussions very robust and thorough. Thank you. Look, I'm here to do my job, here to be a professional. But Justin, what's in the air for you?

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Chapter 3: How does Kon Knueppel compare to other rookies?

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I mean, are you swelling with the glory of the upcoming March Madness? I'll tell you what's not in the air, and that is mold particles, because this weekend I went to work on that bathroom, my friends. As you guys have seen, I was wearing the whole respirator outfit thing. I've gotten serious.

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We're fixing this bathroom and we're doing it one spray bottle that might cause some long-term health risks at a time. Well, walk us through. Look, you're not an oversharer on social media, but you blast out into the world. Very stylish photo of yourself in your renovation bathroom with, you know, mask in tow. Take us through your thought process.

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I mean, what were you what was it you were trying to convey to the world other than I am Justin Verrier and I'm getting shit done?

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Chapter 4: What makes Dylan Harper a standout in this rookie class?

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I meant to convey that I'm about this life and that you should get on my level, that everyone's out here building their brands. I'm building houses, all right? That's my brand. I'll have you know, last time Justin was in LA, I tried to subtly diss the Property Brothers, and I've never seen Justin come to a more spirited defense. Like, he really threw his body in front of the whole thing.

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They're trailblazers. Are they Portland people? Is that true? And you would know that if you watched some of their offshoot shows. No, but they are trailblazers in the sense of just flipping houses, making the world better a place for the rest of us.

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dog i don't think they invented capitalism i gotta tell you opening concepts opening the door for people to to have a home i don't know so would you say you would you say you're like errant wandering per per visit has your efficiency has it gone down at home depot justin or are you like are you more are you a little more efficient in your visits there how's that going

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No, in fact, this time I walked, it was a Lowe's because they have the specific backer board that I was looking for.

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Chapter 5: What insights do we have about V.J. Edgecombe's potential?

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I needed go board and not curdy board, obviously. A little cheaper, you know? Of course, yeah. But also easier to move around if you're just doing it yourself. We'll get to that later. A little later. Segment two.

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Chapter 6: How does Ace Bailey's play impact his draft comparison?

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But they hid it in the back. Like what you don't realize is they have a back wall that they hide all the good stuff and it's always there. I always am looking in the normal aisles, but they never put it there. It's always where you can't find it. So this one took a couple laps.

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Chapter 7: What are the strengths and weaknesses of Tre Johnson?

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Do you think they're doing that to fuck with everyday people like us? Could be. I also think like a lot of these stores are surprised when people show up now. They're always like, oh, it's just online. Like, just go online. You can figure it out there. I just don't think anyone that has a brick and mortar actually even values a brick and mortar anymore.

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Chapter 8: What should we know about Jeremiah Fears and Derik Queen?

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That's sad. Sad to hear. Do you want to get into this? I kind of do, but we got to keep it moving. We got a full slate today and we've already gotten into the full offerings of Lowe's. Sure. Well, that's a T I think we set ourselves up for some kind of sponsorship, right?

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Justin, you're just like, you're just a portrait of a man, you know, getting into this, into this, this new hobby at this stage of life. So hopefully we can dangle that out there. Literally anytime I will sell out for just a coupon at Lowe's or Home Depot. Just, just let me know. All right, but today's episode, we're talking, we're building for the future here.

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That's right, because we're talking about rookies. Sticking with it. Yeah, we haven't checked in on the rookie class for a while. We talked about some of the bigger guys in the class, and we'll do that as well. But we're going to do some updated comps. For some of the top guys, maybe top 10 or so, we'll get into some sleepers deeper in the draft as well.

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But basically what we know now about these players as NBA players and kind of updating our previous conceptions of them, maybe there's certain new things to tease out. Anything you guys want to talk about or should we just jump right in here? Let's just jump into it. Okay.

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So we got to talk Cooper flag right off the jump, not playing right now, but I was struck by this stat that I saw from Dan Feldman, which was as far as age 18 seasons for players in terms of box plus minus, uh, there were only two players over one in the history of the NBA. One is LeBron James at 1.7. One is Cooper flag at 1.3. Tracy McGrady is at 0.6. Amir Johnson at 0.4.

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Now, the quibble here is that there probably aren't a ton of age 18 seasons in the NBA, especially after they reinstituted the one and done rule. But this is pretty uncharted territory. And Kyle, I kind of think like that's where we are with Cooper wondering not only is he like special, but honestly, like how special does it get for him? He is. I mean, yeah, obviously special.

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It's been I'm trying to think of the age 18 seasons that. that would even be in that stratosphere to be eligible to be compared. Andrew Bynum did come to mind because he came in at 17, right? Yeah. Context is always interesting with rookies. And, you know, Cooper has had more thrown at him. I think one of the more essential sort of things to take into consideration is

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You know, how many other shot creators are on this team? So he's getting burdened in a way. I think that was rough on him in the beginning, but he's kind of proven his merit over time and adjusted really well. I'm curious, like the shooting percentages you go through and you look like when you said LeBron, my mind went and I was just like,

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I think whenever you're doing comps, you have to kind of stop and think like, what's so holy that we can't go near? You know, Kevin Durant is always one of mine where I'm just like, we're just not going. We're not going into that wing of the chapel of comps. He does have some kind of LeBron-y, connective, bring people together kind of culture tone setter things.

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