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The Ringer-Verse

‘Sinners’ Recast and ‘Lanterns’ Trailer Reactions | The Midnight Boys

12 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Welcome to the Ringerverse. This is, of course, the Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are Steve, the architect, almond, the builder, and tinker of things. Jomie, the explainer, Adiron. You've got questions, he's got answers. Old Man Van, he of the receding resurgent hairline. Colt, Baby Chuck, the 24-karat closer. Together we are known as the Midnight Boys.

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We'll be right back after this. Okay, follow us on socials, Insta, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok.

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Chapter 2: What are the reactions to the 'Lanterns' trailer?

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Jomie? Guys, I hope you're watching. You can see we got this brand new set. We're out the basement. Actually, you know what I want to say, and this is partially for social. For every motherfucker... who had a comment to say, I need you not only to like and subscribe, I need you to send this podcast to a friend. If you clout us for the table, now's the time to hit the like button.

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You know what I'm saying? The jokes were all funny, but now show the support. The apology should be as loud as the disrespect. I felt a certain way about that, because Tahir Learn has been recording there for a long time. Our fans were very appreciative of it, but the Ringerverse fans did not like us being down there at all. Maybe it's because there's more of us.

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More of us is tight and small, you know? And I think they were a little defensive. They like, damn, you know, why is the black podcast in the fucking closet? How Learn is a black podcast. What? How Learn is a black podcast.

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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the 'Sinners' recast?

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It's the blackest podcast. But there's two of you. Yeah. Right? So the space isn't crazy. To me, I don't actually think people realize that they're the same room. Because it's like, we're walking into it every day. They're like, oh, they got so much space, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, we're here at Sycamore now, guys. Sycamore, and they've done all of this work.

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Chapter 4: How do the hosts approach the recasting of 'Sinners'?

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Shout out to everybody here. Shout out to Kevin. Shout out to Chris. Shout out to Jack. Shout out to Hannah. Shout out to everybody. Who am I missing? Aaliyah. Aaliyah. Jacob. Aaliyah just got here. Scores of people working at this place. I'm talking about the people, not the people, the people that made Sycamore come together. Yeah. All of those people. Shout out to all of them.

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They did such great work, and it looks great around here. So this is where we're going to be. It is a work in progress. We're still going to put more stuff up there. What should we put up here? I know what we should put up there. My new favorite comic character, the Plutonian. No. Who is the Plutonian fan? From Irredeemable. Oh. No. I want to do a whole Irredeemable.

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Irredeemable is an interesting run. I want to do a whole Irredeemable thing. It's good. Stinky. You don't like Irredeemable? It's great. I read it when it came out. It's like, I want to put the Plutonian here. He's my favorite. He is. I love him. Okay. So, we're here. Programmer reminders. On Friday, we celebrate the Oscars with the House of R crew, and we're doing our annual verses. Yeah.

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So, the verses are different now. People can vote. You guys get to vote on the awards. Okay? So, you go to theringer.com to vote. You can also vote on the Ringerverse YouTube, IG, and the Twitter page. You only have until Friday morning to vote. This is a quick vote, okay? The verses come out. You must vote. Just like the Oscars, you got to have watched everything.

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Yeah, you have to have seen everything. You vote, and then that's it. We're not going to be able to really tell if you've seen everything, but you can vote if you want. Now, can people vote multiple times? Yeah, you can vote on the website, vote on the IG, vote on the Twitter, vote on YouTube. We're all different times. We're taking the verses serious now, goddammit.

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There's been a lot of consternation around these parts of the vote. Fuck no. Yeah, see, so we're not really taking it that serious. Why aren't our lights on? Fucking grown and sexy like the higher learning weights. Oh, because we didn't want that. We didn't want that. We wanted a more jovial setting. Do you want to be sexier? Dark and sexy lights? Yeah. For the comic book show.

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For the superhero podcast? Vaseline lens? Yeah. There was a lot of thought into this. Me and Jomie and Alea and everybody, we changed the chairs up. We got the light. Well, all of this stuff, they did it. But there was a lot of thought into this shot. How do you feel like it turned out, Sean? No, I think it turned out well. It was just like our lights are a little bit brighter.

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But when I'm watching Higher Learning, when I see y'all on IG, I'm like, God damn. Put the dark lights on. We got to kind of load people in. We're talking about fucking Iran. It's a little different. It's a little different. I think we need to get a little bit less serious over there on higher learning, though. We'll see. We'll see. We might only get a little wacky.

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All right, now, next week on The Midnight Boys, we have the House of R, also us and them, doing reactions to Project Hail Mary. Hell yeah. So we saw the movie. We went to IMAX and saw it. Shout out to people over at IMAX and Playa Vista. There was no popcorn. It was an office building. Hey, shout out to y'all. Y'all suck. Well, what'd you do?

Chapter 5: What are the key casting decisions for 'Sinners'?

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Is he 6'7"? Electionally. Oh, nah. We can't do that. We can't do that. Oh, wait, wait. He might be like 6'4". That's still too tall. Nah, bro. I think 6'7".

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Chapter 6: How do the hosts approach character dynamics in their casting?

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I think 6'4 is fine, but okay, let's... We can't... We have to cast somebody. We can't... We gotta cast somebody. We gotta stick on it. We can't... But we need somebody that's musically talented, who's young, and they gotta be slightly under. Here's the thing, though. Miles can't... musical genius, did not know how to play guitar when he started this. So they can be taught for sure.

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Getting the ball rolling on my end, I had Noman Griffin Davis from Jojo Rabbit. I think he's wildly talented.

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Chapter 7: What considerations are made for the music and cultural representation?

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I saw him in The Long Walk briefly. He's 19, I think, 20.

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he can do it it was slim pickings for the very young ones that I think could like carry slim pickings for the very young ones let me pitch y'all on something cause by the time we get this it's gonna take us you know it might be 2-3 years of development what if we put my boy Egg in that oh shit that's way too young you saying some crazy shit I like it how old is that kid?

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Roman Griffin Davis is cast can this guy sing? I don't know. I have not. We didn't get him teachers. No, no, no. This guy in this role, this is why, this is another reason why this is hard. Miles was on tour before this.

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Chapter 8: How does the discussion reflect on the impact of societal changes on casting?

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This guy in this role has to be someone, the most authentic thing that they do is the performance of the song. Yes. That has to be the most authentic thing that they do. It can't be. Has to be an artist. Has to be an artist. Who's a white boy? They don't make white boys with songs like that anymore. Harry Styles 10 years ago.

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I know, but what I'm saying is that's why I think— Harry Styles don't got no soul? Ten years ago. He can't do it now. But like, you know, 2014. It has to be a young—the singing part of it is— That's why I cast Justin, fucking. No, he's too old, bro. He's too old. How you don't know this? Justin Bieber 2012? You the music guy. You the music guy. See, this is not that easy. It's hard.

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You the music guy. Like, how you don't... Who's out there? Aaliyah. Aaliyah. Tell Aaliyah. Aaliyah got to know someone. What about Benson Boone? Benson Boone? Get out of here. Hey, wait. Actually... Morgan Wallen. Morgan Wallen. Wait, actually, for all purposes. God's country, Morgan Wallen. For all purposes. Well. Right?

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Who's the, because, and we're going to talk, I thought we were going to talk about this earlier, but the music in the thing has got to be. See, this is why I feel. It's got to be like deeply country. This is why I feel like we should cast a somber guy. Look.

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he's too tall I bring this up it's fine he's a little taller fuck it like I bring I bring this I bring this guy I bring this guy up and this is what people say look he even has the fucking he's 6'4 send that nigga to the league bro I'm telling you bro I really feel like he could've stopped Bam from getting 83 but Benson Boone's face is like he's got the young face whatever I'm telling you guys I'm just being for real on principle I don't think honestly you wanna know they did not like his solo

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They did not like his solo song in Euphoria. Put our nigga Dominic. Wait a minute, is that our best bet? Dominic Fike, he can sing. A little bit. Man, y'all not locked in like that. Bro, he was doing that guitar stuff. That was a lot. I was like, hey, man, Euphoria ain't never coming back. Turn this garbage off. He can't do that. What an insult to Preacher Boy. Put him in there.

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Can't make that happen. Oh, man. What about Phineas? From Billie Eilish and Phineas. He might be too old, though.

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that nigga old ah man all these dudes is old as hell we gotta look up conan gray apparently i'm telling you guys conan gray wait how old is conan gray louis look this dude right here okay how old is conan gray's cast okay conan gray's cat oh this is that guy oh we saw him at the grammys yeah how old is conan let's see conan gray is 27 that's fine i mean but he got a baby face Not really.

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Well, not in that one. Yeah, like, in that one, he got a... I don't know. This is hard. I don't know. This is very difficult. I'm telling you, we should just cast Somber, but that's fine. I'm telling you. He's 6'4", bro. So what? He's young. He's a young 6'4". Niggas is young. Like, tall people are young. Is that the colon for this? Put a pin in it, we'll come back to it. Oh, now. So we lost.

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