
The Ryen Russillo Podcast
Russell Wilson and NFL QB Desperation. Plus, a Big Picture Luka Chat With ‘The Wonder Boy’ Author Tim MacMahon.
27 Mar 2025
Russillo starts the pod by examining how Russell Wilson will fit with the Giants and the landscape of backup QBs in the NFL (0:40). Then, Tim MacMahon comes on to share more information about the Luka trade, including Nico Harrison’s relationship with Kobe and Rob Pelinka, what really scared the Mavs, and the role that Mark Cuban played (16:49). Plus, Life Advice with Ceruti and Kyle (56:26)! Am I mooching off my in-laws? Check us out on YouTube for exclusive clips, livestreams, and more at https://www.youtube.com/@RyenRussilloPodcast. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Tim MacMahon Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, Mike Wargon, and Jonathan Frias Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Full Episode
On today's episode of the podcast, we're going to start just talking a little bit about the Russell Wilson contract, what it means, concerns I have for the Giants, and the Giants signing backups. And really, should you be doing that? Because there aren't a lot of backups to pick from. So the depth there, at least, is good for New York. We'll look at the backup market in general.
The Wonder Boy, Luka Doncic, the book is out this week. The author, Tim McMahon, will go over all of the prequel stuff to how this trade actually happened. And what we hear a retort from Brian Windhorst on their podcast. And life advice. It's March. It's 2025. Where is your backup quarterback awareness for the NFL? Mine is locked in right now.
I was looking at a list the other day, and I was like, man, that list seems bleak. Still a few moves to be made. I don't know if it's just in the moment going, that doesn't look good, where if I did the exercise every single March, every single year, I'd be like, that doesn't look good. But this just feels bad.
We're going to get to some of the backup quarterback options here in a second, but let's start with a starter. I guess, and that's Russell Wilson to your New York Giants. So the deal was first reported as one year, 21 million. That's not going to happen. It's 10.5 million guaranteed. The incentives are going to make him a few million more if he plays every game, if he wins a bunch of games.
But to make the full 21, the stuff that I was looking at this morning, again, a lot of this stuff is very misleading on the headline. It looks good for the agent. It looks good for the player. But like, hey, 20 million for Russ. You're like, yep. He would have to win, I think, like every game and then make the playoffs. And if you go undefeated, chances are you're going to be in the playoffs.
So clearly he's going to make a few million more. I would imagine he is the starter based on him deciding to sign there, even though James Winston was just signed for two years and like eight million base. So when you just look at the numbers, you're like, OK, Wilson, clearly the priority. And then still the scenario of whether or not the Giants would take a quarterback is
with their pick at the top of the first round. So why would the Giants do this? Because I've seen a couple of different theories and let's try to explore all of them. Is it because of the lack of quarterback depth around the league? Because it feels like every year a couple of guys get hurt. There's a very repeated talking point of there's just not enough quarterbacks, right?
There's just not enough quarterback. I just feel like right now and then coming off of the anticipation. So I shouldn't say coming off of this draft because it hasn't actually happened, but we already know this is not the greatest quarterback draft. The depth of actually guys who are going to be taken, it's just not the same as a lot of other years.
So are we seeing teams more desperate to sign some names to become a backup? Or in this case, the Giants quarterback rumor, it's like, let's just... Bring somebody in here, at least at one point from a talent perspective, we'd like to flamed out somewhere else as a first round pick or Russell Wilson, who, you know, let's get to the debate on who he is right now. At least there's something there.
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