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Josemaria Escriva: Episode Five

19 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What challenges did Josemaria and his friends face in November 1937?

2.377 - 24.03

November 1937. Low on rations, hungry, tired, and frightened, Jose Maria and his friends are sustained by faith. As the smugglers lead them up through the Pyrenees, Republican death squads scour the mountains, hunting down refugees. Will the men of Opus Dei make it through the mountains alive?

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32.093 - 46.55 Peter Atkinson

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage. Jose Maria Escriva, Episode 5, Through the Mountains. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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58.785 - 67.09 Josemaria Escriva

Father. Father. Ah, is it morning already?

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Chapter 2: How were faith and friendship crucial during their journey through the Pyrenees?

67.591 - 72.798 Josemaria Escriva

Where's Jose Maria? He was right... He left while we were sleeping.

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73.459 - 74.119 Alvaro del Portillo

What's wrong?

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74.64 - 76.623 Josemaria Escriva

Come on, Alvaro. Jose Maria is missing.

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Chapter 3: What role did the smugglers play in their escape?

76.683 - 101.101 Josemaria Escriva

Did he go back to Madrid? It's a long walk. I wouldn't put it past him. He could have gone to pray in the church. I hope so. Ah! Josemaria! We thought you'd... What happened? Buenos dias. Look what I found.

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Chapter 4: What obstacles did they encounter while hiding from death squads?

101.121 - 128.299 Josemaria Escriva

A wooden rose? It might have been part of the church's artwork around Our Lady. They destroyed everything when they sacked this church. It's a sign from Our Lady, my mystical rose. I asked her to give me a rose, and when I went into the church this morning, this wooden rose was lying on the floor in front of the altar. A sign that I'm ready to go with you through the mountains.

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129.421 - 148.318 Josemaria Escriva

You were always coming with us. Dead or alive, eh, Juan? What's so funny? Don't tell me. I don't have time. This is Paco and this is Mateo. Nice to meet you. I'm Isidoro. Enough.

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Chapter 5: How did Josemaria find hope amidst despair during the journey?

149.18 - 179.832 Josemaria Escriva

Come and get your rations. Thanks for the breakfast. It's your lunch and dinner for next week, too. This is it? If we divide each piece in eight and only eat one bite of cheese for two bites of bread, it could last us four or five days. I'm just going to eat it all now. Me too. Better have energy now at the start than run on mouthfuls to France. It doesn't matter.

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180.753 - 204.068 Josemaria Escriva

You'll be crawling by the end either way. Time to go. The fourth sorrowful mystery. The carrying of the cross. I'll lead this decade. Our Father, who art in heaven. It's a search party, isn't it? Get off the path. Now.

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204.729 - 207.452 Alvaro del Portillo

Scramble at the bank. We'll hike to this summit through the night.

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Chapter 6: What led to the group's decision to hold Mass on the mountain?

208.433 - 210.295 Bishop Schuster

But we've been hiking all day.

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210.355 - 234.783 Alvaro del Portillo

You can stay here if you want. But I want to make it across the border. Alive. Good work. We made it to the summit. We'll stop here for a couple hours before we start our descent. Thank God for a rest.

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235.003 - 244.576 Bishop Schuster

I can't feel my feet. I'm going to say Mass. What's the point? There's no church. Not even an altar.

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245.317 - 252.687 Josemaria Escriva

Why bother? We'll say it here, on this stone. Anyone who doesn't want to be respectful shouldn't attend.

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254.303 - 258.51 Bishop Schuster

You'll have to kneel the whole time, even to reach your makeshift altar.

259.171 - 259.812 Josemaria Escriva

All the better.

260.774 - 263.458 Bishop Schuster

Crazy. Should have left him in an empty church.

Chapter 7: How did the characters support each other in moments of weakness?

264.099 - 274.656 Bishop Schuster

He paid and he keeps up. I have no complaints. Yet. Well, here's your chance. Where's your chalice?

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275.458 - 300.494 Josemaria Escriva

All your gold and shiny stuff. Our Lord will have to make do with altar breads in a stone altar today. Use my jacket as an altar cloth. Ah, thank you, Alvaro. You know, soon we'll be back in our own oratory. A brand new, beautiful one with a satin altar cloth. I see our dreamer is back. Si, I'm back.

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301.255 - 303.818 Alvaro del Portillo

Mass always brings back your enthusiasm, Father.

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304.22 - 314.43 Josemaria Escriva

We should practice the languages we studied in the embassy while we march. We'll need them. Hope this day will grow quickly. See? We're almost in France already. Exactly.

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Chapter 8: What was the significance of crossing the border into France for Josemaria and his friends?

318.955 - 326.983 Josemaria Escriva

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. I will go on to the altar of God.

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328.124 - 330.126

To God who gives joy to my youth.

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342.88 - 346.125 Bishop Schuster

So hungry.

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347.487 - 357.261 Josemaria Escriva

Me too. I shouldn't have eaten it all at once. And we should have found better shoes. Look at fathers. They're split down the middle.

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358.963 - 364.191 Alvaro del Portillo

I... I can't go much further. It's starting to snow.

367.976 - 408.582 Josemaria Escriva

I can't do it. Lean on me. I will help you. Leave me behind. No. We'll help you, Paco. Paco, get up. You're almost to France. Don't give up now. Leave him behind. Just a moment's rest. Keep moving. I'll talk to him. Antonio. No. I told you anyone who stopped would be left behind. Si, but you are a man with a heart. Be patient and let us help him to the next rest period. And then?

409.463 - 439.57 Josemaria Escriva

I guarantee he will recover and you will have the satisfaction of having saved a life. Fine. Here, eat this bread. Thank you. We're close to the border, Paco. When we get there, we'll have conquered the Pyrenees. I can't... You can! You will find the strength. Time to move. Already? You can do it.

450.06 - 455.845 Alvaro del Portillo

We're moving down the mountain now. Careful on the incline. Hold on to the bushes, move sideways.

458.288 - 460.011 Josemaria Escriva

God help us, it's steep.

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