Josemaria Escriva: Episode Four

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What events led to Josemaria and his companions' escape in November 1937?

November 1937. Jose Maria, Alvaro, Isidoro, and Juan say goodbye to their loved ones in Madrid and begin their escape to freedom through Andorra and France. It's a treacherous mountain journey, full of danger and the constant threat of betrayal and death.

What challenges did Josemaria face during the treacherous mountain journey?

Plagued by doubts and fears, Father Jose Maria prayerfully places all his trust in God.
Peter Atkinson 0:32
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Alvaro del Portillo 0:53
The bus should be here any minute.
Carmen Escriva 0:54
Aren't Alvaro and Juan going with you?
Alvaro del Portillo 0:56
No, they will leave tonight.
Carmen Escriva 0:58
But why can't I come? Because I need you, Santi. With Jose Maria gone, I'll be counting on you.

How did Josemaria's faith influence his decisions during the escape?

Josemaria Escriva 1:05
I'm sorry, Mama.
Carmen Escriva 1:07
No, Jose Maria. This is the right thing to do.
Josemaria Escriva 1:10
If I stay, I can keep administering the sacraments.
Carmen Escriva 1:13
Until you get caught. Please, go with Isidoro, my son.
Josemaria Escriva 1:18
I'll give you a blessing before I leave. Through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, may we travel safe. May the Lord send his angels to accompany us, and may he bless you as I bless you. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. There's the bus. It's time to go. I love you all. Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Bishop Schuster 1:44
Adios, mi hermano. You have to tell me all about the... the smugglers.
Carmen Escriva 1:48
Be safe.

What preparations were made for the journey through the Pyrenees?

Look out for each other. We will. Adios, abuela. We'll be reunited soon, I promise. To Barcelona? Si, Barcelona. Two tickets, please.
Josemaria Escriva 2:20
The cafe I saw is on this block. Excellent. I can't remember the last time I had yogurt. I like Barcelona already. Ration card's not satisfying you, Juan? I miss meat. And this will give us protein for the journey through the mountains. First the practice hikes to get in shape, now the protein. No time wasted waiting. I'm the medical student. I've got to get us as ready as we can be for the Pyrenees. Any word from our Matthew the Milkman?
Alvaro del Portillo 2:54
No. A band of refugees were caught last week. I haven't heard from them since.
Josemaria Escriva 2:59
Our documents say we were only staying in Barcelona for three days. It's been a week.
Alvaro del Portillo 3:04
I know. They must be lying low. I can't reach them.
Josemaria Escriva 3:07
Ah, here's the cafe.
Josemaria Escriva 3:15
Or yogurts, please. Coming right up. I don't need a yogurt, Alvaro. Yes, you do. I'm fine. Stop fasting. If you want to make it through the Pyrenees, you need some food in your system. There are so many hungry children here.
Alvaro del Portillo 3:30
Father.
Josemaria Escriva 3:31
All right, all right. I'll have some. Aquí estamos, señores. Or yogurts. Ah, thank you. I'll pay now. Gracias, señor. You should eat some of mine. I'm going to Pascual Galbi's house for dinner tonight, so I'll get some good food there. Pascual who? Galbi. He studied law with me at the University of Zaragoza. I sent him a letter when I realized we'd be in Barcelona. Why? Good friend of yours? I want to tell him about Opus Dei. I think he would be a good fit. Isn't he married? And an anti-Catholic Republican official. But if he converted, he'd be a great fit. Wait, why are you going to a Republican official's house for dinner?
Alvaro del Portillo 4:16
The whole point of being in Barcelona is to smuggle you out of here and away from people like him.
Josemaria Escriva 4:22
He's my friend. He won't give me away, even if he thinks my religious convictions are crazy. Look, a policeman just walked in. Our documents are expired. Be quiet, man. Maybe he won't come to our table. Guardian angels, help us.
Bishop Schuster 4:46
These are my wife's. Everything should be in order. Muy bien.
Alvaro del Portillo 4:55
Just eat your yogurt and keep your head down.
Josemaria Escriva 4:58
Vale. Buen provecho. He's gone to every table but ours. Pray. Pray to his guardian angel. Oh, he is gone. Oh, thank you, Lord. Let's get out of here. Yes. I've had enough close calls. Oh, thank you for dinner, Pascual. Muy delicioso. Oh, I am glad you could join me.
Bishop Schuster 5:34
Well, I've got you here. Tell me more about Opus Dei and this everyday type of holiness.
Josemaria Escriva 5:41
I'm intrigued. It's simple, Pascual. You can be a saint through your work, through practicing law and doing it well.

What was the significance of the café scene in Barcelona?

Josemaria Escriva 5:50
Offer the work to God for your family. I wish my family were here to meet you. Next time, Will there be a next time? I hope so. Jose Maria, you're in danger. I know.
Bishop Schuster 6:06
I could get you a position as a lawyer here in Barcelona in my practice.

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