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Josemaria Escriva: Episode Four

18 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What events led to Josemaria and his companions' escape in November 1937?

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November 1937. Jose Maria, Alvaro, Isidoro, and Juan say goodbye to their loved ones in Madrid and begin their escape to freedom through Andorra and France. It's a treacherous mountain journey, full of danger and the constant threat of betrayal and death.

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Chapter 2: What challenges did Josemaria face during the treacherous mountain journey?

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Plagued by doubts and fears, Father Jose Maria prayerfully places all his trust in God.

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32.448 - 46.882 Peter Atkinson

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage. Jose Maria Escriva, Episode 4, Smuggling Saints. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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53.148 - 54.229 Alvaro del Portillo

The bus should be here any minute.

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54.869 - 56.511 Carmen Escriva

Aren't Alvaro and Juan going with you?

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56.871 - 58.573 Alvaro del Portillo

No, they will leave tonight.

58.655 - 64.923 Carmen Escriva

But why can't I come? Because I need you, Santi. With Jose Maria gone, I'll be counting on you.

Chapter 3: How did Josemaria's faith influence his decisions during the escape?

65.544 - 66.425 Josemaria Escriva

I'm sorry, Mama.

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67.366 - 70.27 Carmen Escriva

No, Jose Maria. This is the right thing to do.

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70.891 - 73.834 Josemaria Escriva

If I stay, I can keep administering the sacraments.

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73.854 - 78.08 Carmen Escriva

Until you get caught. Please, go with Isidoro, my son.

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78.58 - 102.672 Josemaria Escriva

I'll give you a blessing before I leave. Through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, may we travel safe. May the Lord send his angels to accompany us, and may he bless you as I bless you. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. There's the bus. It's time to go. I love you all. Goodbye.

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Goodbye.

104.386 - 108.533 Bishop Schuster

Adios, mi hermano. You have to tell me all about the... the smugglers.

108.713 - 109.214 Carmen Escriva

Be safe.

Chapter 4: What preparations were made for the journey through the Pyrenees?

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Look out for each other. We will. Adios, abuela. We'll be reunited soon, I promise. To Barcelona? Si, Barcelona. Two tickets, please.

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140.633 - 166.331 Josemaria Escriva

The cafe I saw is on this block. Excellent. I can't remember the last time I had yogurt. I like Barcelona already. Ration card's not satisfying you, Juan? I miss meat. And this will give us protein for the journey through the mountains. First the practice hikes to get in shape, now the protein. No time wasted waiting. I'm the medical student.

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166.832 - 173.487 Josemaria Escriva

I've got to get us as ready as we can be for the Pyrenees. Any word from our Matthew the Milkman?

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174.348 - 178.776 Alvaro del Portillo

No. A band of refugees were caught last week. I haven't heard from them since.

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179.197 - 183.505 Josemaria Escriva

Our documents say we were only staying in Barcelona for three days. It's been a week.

184.146 - 187.132 Alvaro del Portillo

I know. They must be lying low. I can't reach them.

187.893 - 210.077 Josemaria Escriva

Ah, here's the cafe. Or yogurts, please. Coming right up. I don't need a yogurt, Alvaro. Yes, you do. I'm fine. Stop fasting. If you want to make it through the Pyrenees, you need some food in your system. There are so many hungry children here.

210.457 - 210.917 Alvaro del Portillo

Father.

211.278 - 239.157 Josemaria Escriva

All right, all right. I'll have some. AquΓ­ estamos, seΓ±ores. Or yogurts. Ah, thank you. I'll pay now. Gracias, seΓ±or. You should eat some of mine. I'm going to Pascual Galbi's house for dinner tonight, so I'll get some good food there. Pascual who? Galbi. He studied law with me at the University of Zaragoza. I sent him a letter when I realized we'd be in Barcelona. Why? Good friend of yours?

Chapter 5: What was the significance of the cafΓ© scene in Barcelona?

350.03 - 364.884 Josemaria Escriva

Offer the work to God for your family. I wish my family were here to meet you. Next time, Will there be a next time? I hope so. Jose Maria, you're in danger. I know.

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366.588 - 382.993 Bishop Schuster

I could get you a position as a lawyer here in Barcelona in my practice. You're very kind. At least consider it. If you stop saying Mass, Pasquale, just until the Civil War ends, you could practice law.

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383.614 - 412.833 Josemaria Escriva

Sanctify that, like you told me. Look, I never practiced law in the past because my only interest was to be a priest. Why should I start practicing law now? Now that they are ready to shoot me simply for being a priest. Now is a different time. I already have plans to leave Spain. How? Through the mountains. Jose Maria, I was at a trial for someone who tried that. They received the descendants.

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412.853 - 443.043 Josemaria Escriva

I know it's dangerous. They have orders to shoot on sight. But if I make it through, I can say mass openly in France. And then I can go to the Nationalist Zone and rebuild Opus Dei. But if you don't make it, Opus Dei dies with you. We'll see. I should go. Thank you for your hospitality, Pasquale. If you reconsider my offer, my door is always open to you. I won't reconsider.

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444.104 - 456.621 Josemaria Escriva

I am a priest, even if I can't wear my collar now. If they catch you, tell them you're my brother. I'll do what I can for you. Thank you, Pasquale.

465.224 - 470.671 Alvaro del Portillo

I'm back. Jose Maria. I heard from Matthew. The milkman.

471.132 - 472.313 Josemaria Escriva

What a name.

472.914 - 475.357 Alvaro del Portillo

He's given us instructions. It's time to go.

477.24 - 477.68 Josemaria Escriva

Finally.

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