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Josemaria Escriva: Episode Three

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What challenges does Father Josemaria face while undercover in Madrid?

1.178 - 25.849 Thomas Drance

March 1937, Madrid, Spain. As the Spanish Civil War rages on, Father Jose Maria is still undercover, posing as Dr. Marañon at the insane asylum. But how long will he be safe in Madrid? When the anti-Catholic militias conduct another search for priests, Father Jose Maria and his friends struggle to stay one step ahead of those chasing them.

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26.19 - 34.746 Thomas Drance

As their options shut down, one by one, the members of Opus Dei commit to a dangerous plan of escape through the Pyrenees Mountains to the north.

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41.155 - 62.126 Peter Atkinson

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage. Jose Maria Escriva, Episode 3, Storms of Persecution. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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62.146 - 81.691 Josemaria Escriva

Through him and with him and in him, O God, Almighty Father, in the unity of the Holy Spirit. Amen. All glory and honor is yours forever and ever. Amen. Come in.

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83.893 - 86.696 Carmen Escriva

Dr. Marañon, visitors are on their way.

87.096 - 89.458 Josemaria Escriva

Visitors? Who is coming, nurse?

89.698 - 90.339 Carmen Escriva

Militiamen.

Chapter 2: How do Father Josemaria and his friends plan to escape the militia?

90.86 - 98.566 Carmen Escriva

They've got word of Catholic refugees hiding in this asylum. Give me anything related to your mess. And consume the hosts.

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98.726 - 108.926 Josemaria Escriva

Gracias. Gracias. the body of Christ.

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109.407 - 109.747 Carmen Escriva

Amen.

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110.548 - 117.778 Josemaria Escriva

Amen. Here, take my prayer book, and I'll put the cloth I used in my pocket for a handkerchief.

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Chapter 3: What dangerous conditions do they encounter while escaping through the Pyrenees?

118.599 - 120.021 Carmen Escriva

Very good.

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120.041 - 121.342 Josemaria Escriva

They're here.

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122.504 - 125.968 Carmen Escriva

Time for your daily check-in, Dr. Maragnon.

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126.549 - 127.831 Josemaria Escriva

Si, nurse.

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129.593 - 133.718

Everyone out in the hallway, by order of your Republican government.

133.951 - 138.035 Carmen Escriva

Com, com, doctor. No need to be frightened of the soldiers.

139.236 - 156.053 Josemaria Escriva

Frightened? Nothing can frighten me. Name? Doctor Maragnon. Don't you recognize me? No. I am incredibly well known. Perhaps you have seen one of my books.

Chapter 4: How does the anti-Catholic sentiment influence the characters' actions?

157.654 - 164.519

Crazy people. I don't know why we keep you around. How do you stand being cooped up with these nuts all day?

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165.34 - 168.844 Carmen Escriva

I find it quite intriguing. You never know what they might say.

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168.864 - 170.906

That's the problem.

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175.972 - 183.941 Carmen Escriva

Dr. Marañón, I am not seeing any improvements in your condition. I think you need a new place of asylum.

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184.642 - 185.743 Josemaria Escriva

Yes, I see.

186.078 - 192.324 Carmen Escriva

This is the second time this week that the militia has come through. It's not good for your nerves.

192.845 - 194.286 Josemaria Escriva

I have nowhere else to go.

194.707 - 201.633 Carmen Escriva

Then leave Spain. There may be better care for you in France or Britain even.

201.974 - 203.736 Josemaria Escriva

No, I can't leave Spain.

Chapter 5: What strategies do the characters discuss for surviving in a hostile environment?

269.704 - 270.425 Bahman Kalbassi

Alvaro ate it.

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271.326 - 272.127 Josemaria Escriva

Ha ha ha ha!

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272.579 - 281.228 Bahman Kalbassi

Conley chewed up the paper with the names of all Opus Dei members, while soldiers tore apart his house looking for proof that he was in a clandestine Catholic organization.

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281.608 - 283.71 Josemaria Escriva

Good for him. Where is he now?

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284.231 - 303.215 Bahman Kalbassi

Honduran embassy, which is where we're going. It's two floors of an apartment building in Madrid. It's already overflowing with refugees, but it will guarantee you more security than the asylum. There's a chance the ambassador will be able to negotiate with diplomatic channels and get us all out of Spain. Juan, too? He joined the anarchist army.

303.936 - 304.337 Josemaria Escriva

What?

305.119 - 307.124 Bahman Kalbassi

He enlisted to avoid being thrown in jail again.

307.685 - 308.086 Josemaria Escriva

Again?

308.106 - 315.883 Bahman Kalbassi

I didn't know. Long story short, he deserted the army and came to me. I burned his uniform and got him into the embassy.

Chapter 6: What role does faith play in the characters' decisions during persecution?

384.494 - 391.702 Josemaria Escriva

This is it. We get this little room all to ourselves. Bit different from the center. We can't say mass here.

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392.303 - 393.845 Bahman Kalbassi

Yes, we can.

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393.865 - 417.531 Josemaria Escriva

I miss the chapel. When will this persecution stop? The storm of persecution is good. We've... we've lost everything. I'm worried that... Worry? Never. To worry is to lose one's peace. But, Father... Nothing is lost, Juan. Nothing essential has been lost. We don't have the center, or even the house or church.

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418.272 - 439.627 Josemaria Escriva

When the tree is not torn up by the roots, and there is no wind or hurricane that can uproot the tree of the church, only the dry branches fall, and that's good. Good gardening. What work can we do? We're stuck here. We can start by learning languages, so we're ready when Opus Dei spreads to other countries.

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440.368 - 448.855 Alvaro del Portillo

French! Japanese! Japanese? I could understand French, but Japanese? Opus Dei will spread everywhere, Avaro.

449.455 - 463.928 Josemaria Escriva

In God's time. And I want to say masses here and outside for my family. Many people must be going without the sacraments. I can help. But Father, to keep you safe... What use am I if I am not doing my priestly duties?

464.667 - 468.632 Bahman Kalbassi

Fine. But stay in disguise. And don't go far from the embassy.

468.973 - 476.482 Josemaria Escriva

You can wear my overalls. A friend of mine is looking for someone to baptize his baby. Where? A few blocks over.

482.19 - 486.575 Carmen Escriva

Come in. Come, father. Look at my beautiful baby.

Chapter 7: How do the characters cope with the loss of their sanctuary and community?

677.13 - 685.041 Bahman Kalbassi

I'm in touch with one of the smugglers. If we meet him in Barcelona soon, he can make the necessary arrangements. Is it safe? No.

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686.022 - 692.972 Alvaro del Portillo

And the success rate? Fifty-fifty. I'll get the train tickets.

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699.314 - 713.413 Peter Atkinson

Hi, this is Peter Atkinson from the Mary Beggars. Tune in to episode four, Smuggling Saints, to hear the next installment of Jose Maria Escriva. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.

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718.68 - 722.065 Thomas Drance

The Mary Beggars is the entertainment division of Relevant Radio.

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