Gene Simmons: The Refugee Work Ethic That Built Kiss
episodePreviously titled “Gene Simmons Opens Up: Coming To America With Nothing, The Mindset That Built An Empire & The Man Behind The Makeup” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 13, 2026
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Did Gene Simmons ever doubt himself?
Oh, hell no. I know that I'm not the best looking guy in the world or the smartest or anything, but I will walk into any room and I will walk out with your girlfriend. There's no doubt in my mind.
Simmons and Kiss revolutionized rock in the 1970s and 80s.
One of the most influential rock bands of all time.
30 gold records, 14 platinum records. Kiss! Gene Simmons!
Rock! Don't ever take from anybody. Just roll up your sleeves and go to work. Wow. What do all great champions do? They psych themselves up. I'm going to win it. I am the champion. I am the greatest. I heard Muhammad Ali doing that. I never heard a human being talk like that publicly. Like, who is this guy? Actually, he was stating fact. It's our problem that we thought, well, you're not supposed to say that. Why not? Why not set greatness in front of you and then work towards achieving it?
Yeah, that's true. What have you learned about fame that you wish everyone knew?
What key lessons did Gene learn from his mother's courage?
If you become famous.
And I heard an interesting story or a very powerful story that When you and your mother were trying to get to America and trying to come here and migrate to America, what was the lesson you learned from your mom and the courage to get over?
My father had gone, so the provider was no longer there because my mother stayed at home while he worked. So once my father left, my mother was forced to go out there while I went to school. So when I'd come home from school at three, four, whatever it is in the afternoon, I was alone at six, seven years of age and would cry myself to sleep because my mother would work until late at night, six days out of the week. There was no such thing as five days, two days off. And in Israel, it's the Sabbath, Saturday that you take off. Sunday, you go right back to work. from 6 a.m. until 7, 7.30 p.m. And so both of my mother's brothers became successful in America.
They already came to America.
Yes, right before World War II. My mother and my father went to Israel in 1949, and both brothers had already started working in America. And the stories I could tell you about my Uncle George, until the day he passed he loved wonder bread in those days for twenty-nine cents you could buy a whole loaf he would buy a whole loaf with water and sit in a park bench in central park and to him it was like eating cake from kings he would just eat the bread and drink water because you didn't have it in Europe. The fact that he could eat an entire loaf of bread by himself and nobody would kill him to get a slice of bread was beyond anything. Because Europe never really recovered from the 1929 stock market crash. People were killing each other all the time. And in concentration camps, if you had a loaf of bread, they'd kill you for that. It's a different world.
In America, the land of plenty, even during World War II, people ate. We grew wheat.
So her brothers were already here. And successful. And successful. So they said, hey, you come over and stay with us? That's exactly right. Was it that easy to kind of, you know, leave the country at that time? So.
When my mother came to America, she had to work, you know, the whole time. And I was, I remember going into my Uncle Larry's house and they had their own house with a basement and stuff. I mean, I just couldn't, and you'd look out the door and there were paved streets and cars going everywhere and people were fat. And I never saw a refrigerator. We had a box, and if you had a piece of ice, you'd stuck it in there so you can have milk. By the way, not branded. They'd give you a sheet of newspaper and your week's piece of meat and your week's butter. It was a new country. There was nothing. There were no stores. People can't fathom that. I remember all that. And I remember just everything was new. You know, you have branding cups and
And canned food, I never saw canned food until I got our first, until we got our first care package from the UN. And we opened up the box and there was a, I get choked up when I, and there was a can of peaches. And I never saw a can, I know people are going to think, well, he's exaggerating. No, I never saw a can of food. There were no supermarkets or grocery stores, nothing. You lived in hills.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
Did Gene Simmons ever doubt himself?
0:01–1:00
2
What key lessons did Gene learn from his mother's courage?
1:00–22:21
3
How did watching The Beatles change Gene's life?
22:21–34:10
4
What was the journey of KISS before they became famous?
34:10–42:40
5
What role did makeup play in KISS's branding?
42:40–57:04
Speakers
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