Simon Sinek: No One Ever Says Losing Friends Was Worth It

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Previously titled “Simon Sinek: Why FRIENDSHIP Is The Key To Your Abundance & Success” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 13, 2026

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What is the key message about friendship and success?

Lewis Howes 0:00
If you're feeling any frustration, any sadness, any overwhelm, depression, if you're feeling like just, ah, I'm not catching the break, I'm getting sick all the time, I'm not creating the financial opportunities I want, I feel like people are using and abusing me. If this is part of your narrative right now and your reality, Then I want you to know that in today's episode, we are diving into a topic on how to really create more fulfillment and happiness in your life. I'm bringing on Simon Sinning today, who's one of today's most influential thought leaders. And we're talking about perspective and how obviously comparison is the thief of joy. And social media creates a lot of comparison, feeling like we're not enough.
Lewis Howes 0:43
But how lasting happiness comes from contribution rather than achievement. And why friendship might be the most valuable asset that we're sacrificing in our pursuit of success. And let me tell you something. I have accomplished a lot in my life. And I'm grateful for my accomplishments. But for part of this time, in my teens and my 20s, when I was accomplishing, I was not happy because I was pursuing something to try to be seen, to try to be accepted, to try to fulfill some wound and mend something from my past and never felt good. It felt momentarily like exciting. But at the end of the day, I went back into sadness and suffering and kind of frustration and overwhelm and all that stuff. And so we need to be thinking about how can we truly create lasting happiness, lasting joy. And that comes from contribution rather than achievement. Now, let me say this. I love accomplishments. I love achievements. It's fun for me. You know, my new book just came out, Make Money Easy, and it hit the New York Times bestseller list. And I was like,
Lewis Howes 1:44
excited about it. I was like, that's awesome because we put a lot of work into putting it out there and creating the work. And I like accomplishing things. It's a nice validation. But here's the thing. I have gotten to the place where, sure, maybe I would have been let down had I not accomplished the goal I set out to. But the thing that I'm focused on more is how can I contribute to as many people as possible in the pursuit of the goal, in the the collective effort of the pursuit of goals, dreams, and accomplishments. And if you get both, then amazing. But if you don't get the goal, if you don't get the dream, if it doesn't happen, the thing you really want, if you don't make the certain amount of money that you want that year, whatever it is, but you're making a difference to a few people, you're contributing to someone's life, that's way more meaningful than accomplishment and feeling like it's not enough.
Lewis Howes 2:42
Accomplishment and success and feeling like you don't really have deep, meaningful relationships. So this is something we're going to be diving into and so much more. And I hope that this is coming to you at the exact right time in your life. And if it is, feel free to let me know and share this with one or two friends that you think would benefit from this conversation with myself and Simon Sinek. And make sure to follow over on Apple Podcasts, over on Spotify. And leave us a review on one of those platforms as well with your biggest takeaway or your biggest aha moment. I love reading your reviews and all of your feedback over there.

Why do people sacrifice friendships for career success?

Lewis Howes 3:19
And I'm very excited about today's guest. So let's go ahead and dive in with Simon Sinek. It seems like the biggest sacrifice most humans are making today is a sacrifice of not having friends for success, for career, for success. greatness, for whatever it is, people pursuing something so passionately for writing their books, for creating their business, whatever it might be. It's like, well, I'm going to commit for this decade or two decades to being the best I can be. Yeah. At the sacrifice of friends. And at the sacrifice of friends.
Simon Sinek 3:48
All right. Well, that one's different because not a single person, when they achieve the thing that they achieve, will ever, ever, ever say that was worth it. None. Zero. I've talked to so many people who decided grades, career, money. I don't need friends. I just need people who can help me achieve my goals. And the result is loneliness. Yes. I mean, you know this as an athlete, right?

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