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Lab Notes: Giant dino discovery fulfils a childhood dream

21 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 31.915 Jonathan Webb

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32.856 - 57.947 Jonathan Webb

Search for All in the Mind on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts. Picture yourself standing under a tree in Thailand. You're not in a thick tropical forest like you might find today. The country is quite open and dry. And now you hear footsteps. Slow, heavy footsteps. and turn to see a dinosaur as big as nine elephants.

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58.588 - 89.738 Jonathan Webb

Its neck swings all the way up to the highest branches of the tree where the dino starts munching. This is Nagatitan, the largest dino ever found in Southeast Asia. This is Lab Notes from ABC Radio National. I'm Jonathan Webb, and today I'm joined by Titiwut Setapaniksakun, who is a PhD student at University College London and the first author on the paper describing this new dinosaur.

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89.758 - 103.797 Jonathan Webb

Hello, Titiwut. Hiya. Thank you very much for joining us. Now, I loved dinos when I was a kid. I have a five-year-old who also loves dinos now. You got to grow up and never give that up. What was or is your favourite dino?

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105.039 - 124.327 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

Ooh, my favourite dinosaur. It's got to be a strange dinosaur such as Therizinosaurus. It's got these massive claws that people thought were used for, you know, hunting, but actually... we figured out that it probably used it to pull down branches and things like that.

124.568 - 131.381 Jonathan Webb

So tell me about this new dinosaur that you've been a part of discovering. What should we know about it and where was it found?

131.902 - 141.261 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

So the new dinosaur's full name is Naga Titan Chayapumensis. It was found in northeastern Thailand in Chayapum province.

Chapter 2: What is the significance of the Nagatitan dinosaur discovery?

141.241 - 166.242 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

by local villagers back in 2016. The story goes that it was a kind of local charity event at the temple, and they had gone out fishing. The local villager, Mr. Tanom Longnan, actually saw some bones peeking out from the edge of the pond. Right. And of course, he immediately kind of realized that there's something odd about this. He thinks they might be dinosaur bones, but he's not entirely sure.

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166.302 - 179.378 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

The villagers don't really believe him initially. Oh, really? So he spotted the pelvis first. So it's one of the largest blocks that we have of the bones. So it would have been very large, very kind of distinctly shaped.

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179.439 - 186.609 Jonathan Webb

It would have looked really weird. So he goes out on a limb and calls the authorities and they come in and investigate?

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186.629 - 193.359 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

Pretty much, yeah. And excavation basically begins almost immediately. But in 2020, they ran out of funding.

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193.539 - 199.007 Jonathan Webb

Right. So things pause and now it's 2026 and we're suddenly reading about this dinosaur. What changed?

198.987 - 217.585 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

So myself and my co-author, we had applied for the National Geographic Society grant, which gave us enough funding to not just reopen the site and finish the preparations of the fossils and the cast, but also even start a public education in the local area to give back to the local community.

217.805 - 222.91 Jonathan Webb

And at what point did you realize just how big a dinosaur you were dealing with?

223.03 - 241.086 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

The first time I laid eyes on the specimen, I was told it was big. And then I finally saw the humerus, the upper leg bone. And it was taller than myself. And I had to kind of stop and go, okay, what have I gotten myself into?

241.126 - 246.915 Jonathan Webb

I've seen a picture of you standing next to this bone. Is that the real bone or is that a replica of the bone?

Chapter 3: How was the Nagatitan dinosaur discovered in Thailand?

487.167 - 498.725 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

So it can be as low as like six tons all the way up to maybe 30, 50 tons. And they Keep going until the end of the Cretaceous period when the mass extinction occurs.

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498.845 - 517.337 Jonathan Webb

And then there's no dinos left. Yeah. I'd like to ask Titi Woot about your connection to this discovery. It sounds like you got involved fairly early on, but you're a PhD student from Thailand working in London. What's that connection like? It must be satisfying to work on something from home.

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517.317 - 537.339 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

When I came up with my PhD project, it was also a passion project for myself. I wanted to work on dinosaurs from back home. That was always the childhood dream. I always told my high school teachers, like, I'm going to name a dinosaur. It's going to be from Thailand. That's going to be my first one. And here I am, you know. And you did get to name it, right? You chose the name?

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537.539 - 543.426 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

We selected it as a team, but essentially, yeah, we all kind of named it together. So I would say yes.

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543.524 - 550.994 Jonathan Webb

And I gather the name is also something of a tribute to local mythology. Can you explain what Naga Titan means?

551.495 - 575.612 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

So Naga Titan can be divided into two words. So Naga in this case refers to a mythological aquatic serpent that is often depicted in Southeast Asian mythology and folklore. as a deity of its own. And, I mean, it's a dinosaur with a long neck and long tail, and this serpent, it kind of just fits. Yeah. A lot of sauropods use titan. Yeah.

575.932 - 586.59 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

And it just means, it refers to giants from the Greek mythology, so big. So, big serpent. and Chaipumensis is paying homage to the province it was found in.

586.65 - 594.162 Jonathan Webb

I've got to say, Titu, as a kid who grew up in Thailand wanting to name a dinosaur from Thailand, you didn't miss. Thank you.

594.302 - 607.804 Thitiwoot Sethapanichsakul

Yeah, no, it's been... I didn't expect such a large reception for the new dinosaur. I was like, oh, well, it's not that big. But seeing how much interest it's generated globally and within Thailand has been very, very rewarding.

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