The Sports Agents
Episodes
What comes next after winning a World Cup?
24 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby goes down to the England Rugby training ground ahead of the Women's Six Nations to meet former World Player of the Year Ellie Kildunne and her f...
How Morocco snatched Senegal's AFCON crown
20 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It has been like the longest VAR ruling in history… the match finished two months ago, the Africa Cup of Nations trophy was presented, the considera...
Why were so many English clubs humbled in Champions League?
19 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Weeks ago we were talking about English dominance in Europe, now just Liverpool and Arsenal make it to the quarter finals of the Champions League.Manc...
Max 'Dowmania', GCSEs & The World Cup - How to protect a prodigy?
17 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
What were you doing when you were 16 years and 73 days old?... Max Dowman was last seen gliding across the length of a Premier League pitch, scoring a...
Sophie De Goede: crowdfunding to become World Rugby Player of the Year
13 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Playing in front of a record 80,000 fans at Twickenham, captaining your country in a World Cup final and winning World Rugby’s Player of the Year…...
Antonin Kinsky nightmare: 17-minutes to end Igor Tudor's reign?
12 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
17 minutes was all it took for Igor Tudor to sub off Antonín Kinský on his Champions League debut after two mistakes and three goals conceded. Subbi...
Wales rugby: Crisis? What crisis?
10 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
There’s been a lot of soul searching in England after the Six Nations disaster continued with their first ever loss to Italy. But for the team sitti...
From 18 months to live, to Paralympic dream: Team GB's Davy Zyw
06 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
When the Winter Paralympics get underway this weekend in Italy history will be made. Davy Zyw was diagnosed with motor neurone disease at the age of 3...
Have England pushed the Six Nations panic button?
04 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It’s crunch time for England in the Six Nations this weekend. If they go from Grand Slam hopes to losing to Italy… it doesn’t bear thinking abou...
Will the US-Iran conflict impact Trump's World Cup?
03 Mar 2026
Contributed by Lukas
War in the Middle East has cast a new shadow over the World Cup this summer. This is a human tragedy first and foremost but questions are being asked ...
Are World Cup fans in danger after Mexico cartel violence?
27 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The recent killing of Mexican drug lord ‘El Mencho’ has caused unrest and cartel violence across the country. Guadalajara - one of Mexico’s host...
Drive To Survive transformed F1 - how did they do it?
26 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
If we had a penny for every time we’ve spoken about Drive To Survive on this show, we would be rich. Formula One's Netflix series is the golden exam...
Do England need a makeover after Six Nations collapse?
23 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Just two weeks ago it was a completely different story for England at the Six Nations. From undefeated in 12 games and to two losses on the bounce.Spa...
Is Russia's ban from world sport over?
20 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Russian and Belarusian athletes will be allowed to represent their countries at the upcoming Winter Paralympics. For the first time since 2014, since ...
From Vinicius Jr to grassroots: how can football stop abuse?
19 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
In the Champions League this week Real Madrid's Vinicius Junior stopped the match after alleged racial abuse by Gianluca Prestianni. Prestianni denies...
Introducing your new F1 podcast: Up To Speed
18 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
If you love The Sports Agents, you'll love this.Step inside sport’s greatest soap opera, Formula One, with a brand-new podcast Up To Speed. Hosted b...
From training on concrete to gold on ice: Matt Weston makes Winter Olympics history
17 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It was 3 golds for Team GB at the Winter Olympics over the weekend! That’s a new record… And the man who won two of them, Matt Weston, joins Gabby...
Auld Enemy & Grand Slam Stakes: can Scotland stop England?
13 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
What a week we’ve had here on The Sports Agents, from penis-gate, to Winter Olympics heartbreak and Premier League managers getting sacked.This week...
Frank out, Dyche gone, Tuchel commits - Are football's power brokers panicking?
12 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It’s been a busy 48 hours since our last show… Spurs decided to sack head coach Thomas Frank after just 8 months in charge. How right Frank was wh...
'Penis-gate' & Should Lindsey Vonn have dared to ski?
10 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
So far the Winter Olympics have been incredible, awe-inspiring and down-right bizarre. From reports of penis injections in order to ‘fly further’,...
Welcome to the Winter Olympics!
06 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
The Winter Olympics are here! What sport are we all going to pretend to be an expert at? Curling maybe? Today Gabby and Mark are joined by one of Grea...
Does a Brit hold the key to the Super Bowl?
05 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It's Super Bowl time! Mark and Gabby are joined by Super Bowl winner Jason Bell to talk about one of sports biggest shows.Will an English coach (Aden ...
Can 'charming' Carlos Alcaraz be bigger than 'The Big 3'?
03 Feb 2026
Contributed by Lukas
At 22 years old, Carlos Alcaraz has done what some of the best players in history chase their entire careers - winning the Australian Open to become t...
Content is king but at what cost to player privacy?
30 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
You’ve likely seen the viral video of Coco Gauff smashing her racket in a corridor at the Australian Open. She tried to go somewhere without cameras...
Are English clubs embarrassed by Champions League domination?
29 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Five English teams finished in the Champions League top 8 to reach the last 16 without a playoff. If Newcastle join them it will be the first time eve...
'Michael Carrick's at the wheel!' ... Haven't Man United been here before?
27 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Carrick couldn’t have dreamed of a better start to life as Man United’s interim boss after successive wins against the Premier League’s ...
Brand Beckham & Osaka's Jellyfish - has sport ever been so fashionable?
23 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Everyone’s been talking about the Beckhams and Naomi Osaka this week. Hard to believe a family feud and a jellyfish outfit at the Australian Open ha...
Is having a female coach in the Premier League the holy grail?
22 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Women like Sarina Wiegman and Emma Hayes continue to show the world what female coaches can do. But for anyone trying to follow in their footsteps, sp...
Should managers like Oliver Glasner accept their place in football's food chain?
20 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Just eight months ago Crystal Palace and their manager Oliver Glasner were lifting the FA Cup. Fast forward to now - no wins in 10 games, captain Marc...
AFCON Final: what's the impact of the diaspora?
16 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Hosts Morocco face Senegal in the Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) final on Sunday. At this AFCON almost 40% of players were born outside Africa, like th...
Are Bryson DeChambeau and his 3m YouTube followers keeping LIV on life support?
15 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
At the start of this week the PGA tour made a big move. Five-time major champion Brooks Koepka was given special permission to return from the breakaw...
Inside Macclesfield's FA Cup upset: Rooney, Love Island & buying a club on Rightmove
13 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
It was the greatest FA Cup upset of all time. Last year's champions Crystal Palace knocked out by Macclesfield - 5 divisions and 117 places below them...
Can football learn from Succession?
09 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
What does a strong succession plan look like? Before Darren Fletcher took over as Man United's interim manager he felt he needed Sir Alex Ferguson's b...
Ashes aftermath: McCullum's Bazballs-up & Bethell breakthrough
08 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Former England cricketer Steve Harmison & The Guardian's Chief Sports Writer Barney Ronay in Sydney, join Chappers to reflect on arguably the most...
Amorim sacked, Rosenior hired: Are sporting directors bigger than the manager?
06 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
We're only 6 days into 2026 and already Ruben Amorim, Enzo Maresca and Wilfried Nancy have lost their jobs. Chelsea have even appointed a new manager ...
New Year's Q&A: Arsenal trophy, Hamilton retiring & YOUR 2026 predictions
01 Jan 2026
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby and Mark welcome in the New Year by answering your questions.What sport should we nominate Mark for at the Winter Olympics? Will Lewis Hamilton ...
Unwrapping 2025: Southgate, surprises & Xmas bloopers
23 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby and Mark bring you the best moments from another sport-packed year on The Sports Agents, as chosen by you, us... and Jon Sopel.From chats with f...
Jake Paul vs Anthony Joshua: Who's really in danger?
19 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Two-time heavyweight world champion Anthony Joshua, is taking on YouTuber-turned-professional boxer Jake Paul. Like it or not they’re two of the big...
Who dominated in 2025?
18 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
How did 2025 go for your team? If you’re an England cricket fan or a Wolves diehard, we're sorry. But lots of British teams and individuals did win ...
Do England have 'the dog in them' to rescue The Ashes?
16 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It’s crunch time Down Under. England have to win this third Test to keep the Ashes series alive. Ben Stokes says his side need to “show a bit...
Pippa York: "I want the world to leave trans people alone"
12 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Pippa York, then known as Robert Millar, was crowned the Tour de France King of the Mountains, winning three stages in the 1980s. But ever since she w...
Mike Tindall: R360 will create household names like Joe Marler & Ilona Maher
11 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
On Celebrity Traitors, Joe Marler showed the world how entertaining rugby players can be. Despite the best efforts of Marler, Henry Pollock and t...
Mo Salah: Liverpool's scapeGOAT?
09 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
No Champions League football for Mo Salah tonight after he dropped a bombshell. In a very rare media interview Salah said he's been "thrown under the ...
Sir Chris Hoy: "Government could save thousands of lives"
05 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Six-time Olympic cycling champion Sir Chris Hoy joins Gabby and Mark after his terminal prostate cancer diagnosis at just 47 years old. What more does...
Is Serena Williams making a comeback?
04 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The rumour is Serena Williams could be making a comeback. She signed up for anti-doping and the fans have gone wild. Our guest today was Serena's coac...
Trump's World Cup and we're just living in it?
02 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's the FIFA World Cup draw this week - welcome to the crazy world of President Trump and FIFA President Gianni Infantino with Cristiano Ronaldo's re...
Weekend Edition: Q&A - Which rules should football steal from other sports?
28 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Can other sports teach football a thing or two? On today's show Gabby and Mark take your suggestions on how to fix football, using your passion for a ...
McLaren CEO Zak Brown: "Verstappen belongs in a horror movie!"
27 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Another season of F1 drama come to an end this weekend as McLaren's Lando Norris has the chance to be crowned world champion. And the man who’s mast...
Why can't we just let Liverpool grieve?
25 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's been 60 years since Liverpool last had back-to-back 3-0 defeats in the league, and with only three wins in the last 11 games, Arne Slot has got h...
Weekend Edition: Did Sky Sports axe "Lil-Sis" Halo too fast?
21 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Only three days after launching, Sky had to take down its TikTok channel for female sports fans. Branded as the "lil-sis" of Sky Sports, it was comple...
Can England rise from The Ashes?
20 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's the Ashes this weekend! Gabby and Mark relive their favourite Ashes memories and welcome three-time Ashes winner, Steven Finn. England’s men la...
REPLAY - Bodyline: the Ashes that sparked a global crisis - How It All Played Out
19 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
"If we don't beat you, we'll knock your bloody blocks off"In one of the most bitter and controversial Ashes series ever played, England set their sigh...
Piracy, 'Premflix' & 3PM blackout: Can fans win illegal streaming war?
18 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Do you stream sport illegally? Most people know someone who does: almost 5 million people streamed live sport illegally in the UK in the last 6 months...
Weekend Edition: Sir Mark Cavendish - "They wrote me off but I’m a born racer"
14 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Never write off a born racer: Sir Mark Cavendish had won 30 stages of the world's biggest cycling race, The Tour de France (even winning one makes a r...
Eubank v Benn 2: Why risk it?
13 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This weekend it's the latest chapter in the family feud as Conor Benn takes on Chris Eubank Jr, for a rematch after the sensational first fight in Apr...
How did a 'rebel circus' transform The Ashes? - How It All Played Out
12 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the last episode of Season 2, as we gear up for the Ashes, Mark Pougatch and Paul Hayward bring you the story of Australian media magnate Kerry Pac...
ChatGPT & Harvard professors - Is AI already running your team?
11 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We've all been guilty of using ChatGPT once in a while, Head Coach Laura Harvey even admitted she used it for tactics in the American women's league. ...
Weekend Edition: Celebrity Traitors special with Clare Balding
07 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
We've been Traitors mad so Clare Balding joined Gabby and Mark for a slightly different episode of The Sports Agents. Don't worry there's no spoilers ...
The champion tennis forgot: Before Ashe, before Serena, came Althea Gibson - How It All Played Out
05 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Pougatch and Paul Hayward bring you the story of Althea Gibson - don't worry if you've never heard of her, few have! Arthur Ashe is a name immedi...
Mary Earps: “Torture” of quitting Wiegman’s England & Hampton drama
05 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Mary Earps joins Gabby and Mark on The Sports Agents. The Euros winner and two-time FIFA Best goalkeeper tells Gabby and Mark why she left England bef...
Gareth Southgate: Why I left England, Tuchel v Bellingham & Man United next?
03 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sir Gareth Southgate joins Gabby & Mark on The Sports Agents! The man who led England's men to two Euros finals, missing out on that first trophy ...
Weekend Edition: Why doesn't the government fund deaf athletes?
31 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Did you know the government doesn't fund deaf athletes, because they aren’t allowed to compete at the Paralympics? For 100 years now they’ve ...
Sledging, idols & rivals: Tuffers' Love Letter to The Ashes
30 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Former England cricketer Phil Tufnell, who played in five Ashes series, joins Gabby and Mark to share his love letter to the Ashes, just weeks out fro...
Was she tripped? The most infamous Olympic collision: Mary Decker v Zola Budd - How It All Played Out
29 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's one of the most iconic photos in Olympic history: Mary Decker falling flat on her face as Zola Budd runs past her bare foot. Decker, America’s ...
Mafia, X-ray specs & FBI: Inside the NBA gambling scandal
28 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Today’s story involves everything from the five families of the New York mafia, x-ray glasses at rigged poker games, FBI arrests and huge bets place...
Weekend Edition: Is Formula One in for a hollywood ending?
24 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Formula One might be about to witness a comeback worthy of a Drive to Survive Hollywood film. With five races to go, the McLaren driver win that seeme...
Where is the UK's Michael Jordan?
23 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Jordan returned to TV screens across America last night for the launch of a new NBA season that had fans all over the world giddy with excitem...
Messi, Ronaldo & a pig's head: How did El Clasico become the world’s biggest club match? - How It All Played Out
22 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From General Franco to Johan Cruyff, and from a pig's head to the Messi v Ronaldo rivalry - Spanish football journalist Guillem Balague joins Mark Pou...
Amorim's Anfield statement, Dyche boards Marinakis merry-go-round & football's '2000's revival' with Andy Cole
21 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby and Mark are joined by the Premier League's fifth top goal scorer of all-time and winner of eight major trophies with Manchester United, Andy Co...
Weekend Edition: Has British Gymnastics cleaned up its act?
17 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
British Gymnastics has been on a journey of root and branch reform since the damning 2022 ‘Whyte Review’ exposed systemic abuse and cultural faili...
Ritual, Rice & Reinforced toilets: Sumo comes to London
16 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
You might have spotted the world’s best sumo wrestlers riding around on Lime bikes and posing for pictures on Abbey Road - that's because for the f...
From hooligans to heroes: How Italia 90 changed English football - How It All Played Out
15 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In the 1980s English football was at an all time low. Attendances down, stadia crumbling, hooliganism all too prevalent, and then three horrific disas...
Andy Farrell: Leading the Lions & being the ultimate 'rugby dad'
14 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby and Mark are joined by Andy Farrell, who led the British & Irish Lions to a series win this summer and guided Ireland to world number one. F...
Weekend Edition: Q&A - MOTD moments, rowdy Ryder Cup & sheepdog shows
10 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby and Mark answer all of your questions from building their 'dream athlete' and their favourite Match of The Day moment so far, to England winning...
Riding for Ratcliffe's INEOS & will protests change Tour de France forever?
09 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Did Sir Jim Ratcliffe's clunky Amorim vs. Arteta comparison make sense? Is England manager Thomas Tuchel right to put team cohesion ahead of individua...
The Dirtiest Race in History - How It All Played Out
08 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
"This race was an incredible exhibition of sprinting brilliance and power, but only because it came from a drugs bottle."In the scorching heat of Seou...
Are Premier League owners too impatient & is it wrong to link MND with rugby?
07 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Russell Martin gone after 123 days, Ange Postecoglou on thin ice after 7 games - Right now at the top of Premier League clubs the pressure is on to be...
Weekend Edition: Boris Becker - from Wimbledon glory to serving time
03 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Three-time Wimbledon champion Boris Becker joins Gabby and Mark on The Sports Agents to talk about his time in prison. The former world number one was...
Adapt or die: Are football managers too stubborn to succeed?
02 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Premier League managers are more heavily scrutinised than ever. Those 20 jobs are among the most coveted in sport but with two sackings already this s...
Who Kidnapped Shergar? The Mystery of the World’s Most Famous Racehorse - How It All Played Out
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join us to uncover a mystery that's still yet to be solved. We're revisiting this episode of How It All Played Out, where Mark Pougatch and Paul ...
How Keegan Bradley's USA were taught a Ryder Cup lesson
29 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
When Team Europe won the Ryder Cup in Rome two years ago, Rory McIlroy pledged that they would go to Bethpage in New York and win it away from home - ...
Red Roses win Rugby World Cup - how far can cowboys, Lionesses & Ilona Maher momentum take us?
28 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It's once in a lifetime, watching England win a World Cup on home soil - in any sport. The Red Roses have delivered history. The defeats in the l...
Weekend Edition: Rugby World Cup Final with Ruby Tui on the 'game of the decade' & calling King Charles "Bruv"
26 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby is joined by Ruby Tui - the nation has fallen in love with this World Cup winner and Olympic medallist over this Women's Rugby World Cup. She te...
Chappers' Ryder Cup diary & will Red Bull save Prem Rugby from breakaway league?
25 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
As the Women's Rugby World Cup reaches its conclusion, a new domestic men's rugby season begins - it's got a new name & big investment from Red Bu...
How Ryder Cup rivalry was born: ball tampering, 'underdog' Seve & The War on The Shore - How It All Played Out
24 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ball tampering, fans storming the golf course, bringing in the military... this is the story of how the Ryder Cup rivalry changed forever. Can you bel...
Hunter Bell silver lining, Ballon d'Or & HMRC of football podcasts
23 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
It may have been Great Britain's worst World Athletics Championships in over 20 years but Gabby and Mark are joined in studio by one athlete who lit u...
Weekend Edition: Eddie Hearn talks Ricky Hatton & still trying to escape dad's shadow
19 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Eddie Hearn sits down with Gabby & Mark to talk about the evolution of Matchroom from a £100 sports promotion company, formed under under the sta...
Danny Mills: The pride & agony of watching son George at the World Athletics Championships
18 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby & Mark are joined by the former Premier League defender Danny Mills, who's just landed in Tokyo to watch his son - GB's George Mills - try t...
Coe vs Ovett: Moscow 1980 & The rivalry that divided a nation - How It All Played Out
17 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
"It was a f**k up from beginning to end. Every mistake you can make in the 800 I made. Too far off the back, too wide, too diffident, no logic that da...
Remembering Ricky Hatton: The People's Champion
15 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby & Mark celebrate the life of a true British sporting icon, “The Hitman” Ricky Hatton. A ferocious fighter who turned boxing into spectac...
Weekend Edition: The incredible story of Eugene Amo-Dadzie AKA 'The World's Fastest Accountant'
12 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A special interview today with a sprinter - who ironically - is living proof that it’s NEVER too late to start! Eugene Amo-Dadzie has shot to stardo...
John Terry, Maro Itoje, Anthony Joshua & more join Gabby on the City's trading floor for charity
11 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Gabby Logan hits the trading floor of BGC Group in Canary Wharf for their annual charity day where stars from the world of sport, pick up the phones, ...
Sven-Goran Eriksson: The story of England's first foreign manager - How It All Played Out
10 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After Kevin Keegan resigned in the men's loos at Wembley in 2000, the FA decided to hire their first foreign England manager - Sven Goran-Eriksson. He...
Can Forest play 'Ange-ball' & The ex-Arsenal man leading Spurs new era?
09 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Before the weekend, Tottenham announced that the Premier League’s longest-serving Chairman, Daniel Levy, had been ‘removed’ by the club’s owne...
Weekend Edition: NFL's 'Isak saga' - A tale of player power & Netflix drama
05 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Former Super Bowl champion Jason Bell joins Gabby and Mark to talk about the NFL's biggest transfer drama of the summer, which puts the Alexander Isak...
Michael Johnson's Grand Slam Jam: Why are athletes still owed millions?
04 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
When four-time Olympic gold medallist Michael Johnson set up the Grand Slam Track league it was meant to redefine athletics, finally making it popular...
Should Guehi have thrown a transfer tantrum like Isak?
02 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
After a dramatic deadline day former Premier League striker Troy Deeney joins Gabby and Mark in the studio. Where does Alexander Isak fit into Liverpo...
Weekend Edition: Russian dolls, fax machines & legal threats - the making of the first Women's Rugby World Cup
29 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Our guest today, Alice Cooper, fought to set up the first ever Women's Rugby World Cup in 1991, along with three other trailblazing women. It took pla...
Have Premier League academies sold their soul?
28 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
This week has been dominated by huge teenage Premier League debuts with Rio Ngumoha’s winner for Liverpool and Max Dowman appearing for Arsenal at j...
Nuno, Marinakis & Edu: Why three's a crowd for Forest
26 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
A bombshell press conference revealed a major rift between the Nottingham Forest hierarchy and manager Nuno Espirito Santo... and we're only two games...