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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of the 5K fundraiser mentioned?
S2PN is proud once again to be a partner of the 5K fundraiser with the Get Real Movement and Rainbow Railroad. We would love your support. And remember, we do our virtual 5K, which is this time and last year. We also did it at a rink. We're going to be doing it at a rink this year. And people, I think, misunderstand, Jesse, because they're like, well, you should have to skate. Really fast.
So some of those. No, we do a bunch of things that cut down the amount of laps that we have to do.
And the whole thing about the virtual 5K is that you can run it in any way you want. Yeah. It's just about raising money and celebrating everybody and all of their differences. And you can do your 5K any way you want. So we created a fun content thing for you.
Guys, don't overthink this.
We're trying to raise money for a good cause. All right. It's June. It's Pride Month. Let's get into it. Start the show, Jesse Blake. All right.
June 2024.
Jake Gensel recently traded to the Carolina Hurricanes. Let's him know he's probably not going to stay. Ends up in Tampa. March, well, actually, probably part of February 2025, Mikko Rantanen tells the Canes he's not sure he'll stay.
Later that week, Mitch Marner, depending upon the rumor you believe, either turns down a trade to the Carolina Hurricanes or would have accepted it, but the third team involved in the potential trade couldn't get the assets together. Which I think...
I think it was Vegas.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of Carolina winning the Stanley Cup?
Just a list of all timers. I remember years ago on this podcast being like, when is someone going to give Brandon Bussey an NHL shot? Because he had one season in Providence. where you're like, you can't score on him, and if you can score on him, you can't beat him. He basically didn't lose in the AHL. When's he gonna get a shot?
If I'm not mistaken, he was playing behind that two-headed monster of Linus Ulmark and Jeremy Swayman. Which didn't lose at the NHL level, right? It's about being ready when the opportunity finally, finally, finally arrives. And he was. He's one of the greatest stories of these playoffs. It's so feel good.
And we learned that the reason he got the opportunity was because of an injury to Freddie Anderson and not because of Freddie Anderson's play necessarily. In game two, Freddie said he suffered a little tweak and that he tried to play through it in game three. And then that's where he got the hook. And that's when Bussey came in. So yeah, opportunity, you never know what's going to arise.
And he didn't play, Bussey didn't play for two months and he got his opportunities in there and he wins.
Let me compliment Freddie for a second because I've been hard on him. And I have to say, first off, it takes a lot of courage when you're Freddie Anderson after having won as many games as he's won in the playoffs to say, like, I know he got the hook in game three. I know that was the worst game of the finals, but he could have insisted that No, I'm ready to go. My knee's fine. I'll be fine.
That's just a one-off. He didn't. And in fact, he even let... He could have sat on the bench. Okay, fine. You're not going to start me, but I will be on the bench. I will be on the bench. But he was a man enough, I think, to say, you know what? Because I know it's partially up to the medical staff, but if a player insists, I think they'll go. He put pride aside.
He put it aside and he said, no, because of my performance there... Kachekov is going to be in the lineup because I shouldn't even be playing in a backup role.
I think he would have had the cachet to insist on being in the lineup. He didn't play in game six. He didn't play in game five and he didn't finish game four. If I'm not mistaken, that's how it went. He was the first one to get the cup. Well, second after Stahl. Well, that's what I mean.
Yeah, he's the first one to get the first handoff. What is it, 13 of 14 games?
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Chapter 3: What were the key factors in the Vegas Golden Knights' playoff performance?
Was it Marner, Eichel, Barbashev, or Marner, Eichel, Stone?
The Stone one's the one he went to most consistently through the playoffs when he needed to load up. I don't know exactly about last night.
And it was completely ineffective.
Yeah. And I'm blaming Kelly McCrimmon on some of this, the failure of the Vegas Golden Knights at the end of this. Because William Carlson was such an important piece of this team.
He should make double what he makes.
Holy shit. And the entire regular season, they're like, OK, he's going to come back eventually for the playoffs. Fingers crossed he'll be back. We don't really need to go out and get a number two center. But then he goes out again. And oh, like Brett Howden, you tried your best. You can't do it. You're not going to center that second line. Colton Sissons isn't good enough to be there or anything.
And then Hurdle is, I don't know, a waste of money at this point. I don't know what's going on there.
couple good games he had that big goal and everything but in anaheim to shell of himself third line player who's batting the puck with his hand off the face off for free penalties for the other team he was a waste he will be gone they need to they needed to get more depth in this forward group and mccrimmon decided he's not going to go out and do it
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Chapter 4: How does the injury situation impact the Vegas roster decisions?
He got Dowd, which was a very effective fourth point. Really good player for them. In terms of depth trades, I think that was the depth trade of the trade deadline. Incredible player for them. But I think you're right, Jesse.
I think we know, and we know this from Hasso Plattner's interview with Shen Ping from San Jose Hockey Now, that, and we didn't know this before, the reason he asked out of San Jose was, listen, I got this injury and it's a ticking time bomb. And eventually I'm not going to be able to do this anymore. And I want a chance at winning the cup. This is Hurdle. This is Hurdle.
so hurdle gets traded to San Jose or sorry to Vegas. And I think you're seeing the downfall of Thomas hurdle. And we know if we know anything about Vegas, uh, you're fucking gone.
If you don't, your place slips, you're gone. Bruce Cassidy won a cup with us. In the garbage. Yep. And hostage situation.
Yeah.
In the garbage with a gun to his head. Yeah. Aiden Hill, we don't think you can do it anymore. No. No one's been with you. Gone. Into the bin with you. It's almost insulting they made him sit on the bin.
I kind of wonder about, I kind of wonder for just a second. I mean, they probably wouldn't trade him in division, but doesn't Aiden Hill make a lot of sense for a team like Edmonton?
I think they absolutely would trade him in division.
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Chapter 5: What trade possibilities are considered for Toronto's roster?
They don't believe he's good at all. Then Edmonton should not trade for him. Exactly. That's not a solution for Edmonton.
No, if you pick up the phone with Vegas and they're like, yeah, sure. What do you think?
Hang it up immediately. But you were doing the thing. You brought that up because of Hurdle.
Uh, yeah, no, they'll, if they don't think you can be effective for them and they think that money would be better spent on Dylan Larkin, they will 1,020,000%, uh, find a way to do that. And. You know, they were all season long a mediocre team without William Carlson. And then they got him back. And like Adam said, boy, you had that pick right from the beginning.
Listen, you want to talk about underrated centers? Dude, the most underrated. I had no idea. I didn't know it was that good.
That rug really tied the room together. Big Lebowski style. They didn't look even kind of the same without him. even kind of the same.
And with, and it's like the position is right there. The opportunity is there for hurdle to get back into that center role. And they couldn't trust him anyone and they couldn't play him there. But like, that's the guy you acquired his, his contract, his cap hit for them is $6.75 million. How many more?
the sharks are retaining he's got four more years left so it is a movable deal because that's not expensive his actual cap hit is like eight point something but since they're retaining um this is this is a deal that somebody could take on could vegas retain a little bit more and make it more attractive so they get a real asset back totally it's just i don't i don't know how you trust this player anymore when he had every opportunity to excel in this series and in these playoffs and he couldn't do it
A rich team makes sense for Thomas Schroeder because we know, I think the way that we believe this is going to end is that he'll end up on LTIR. Oh, you think so?
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion about Morgan Rielly's future unfold?
I think so. I think that there's going to come a point where he's not going to be. And listen, he could surprise us, right? Like, I thought Jordan Stahl was cooked last year. He came back and won the Conn Smythe in the championship.
He just had a really long spring, though.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like with Hurdle, I don't know what the like the only Vegas is going to see his his his medical reports. But I would look at that and go, OK, if I'm picking this guy up and I'm a I'm a team that that needs depth at center. Can he be your third line center? No. I think he's a winger at this point. I think he's a winger. Permanently.
Can you pick him up for nothing and then try to, like, I look at a team like Vancouver that's trying to lose. Can you pick up a guy like Hurdle, retained, or don't retain, and get an asset tagged to it, and then you take Hurdle, try to get a good season out of him in Vancouver, and then flip him at the deadline?
It's possible. I like where your head's at. Like, not everyone can do the depth thing. Yeah. And maybe that's him.
Yeah, I don't know. The contract, by the way, has a three team approved trade list. So a 28 or 29 team no trade list. Yeah.
And it's actually Minnesota, Florida and Vegas. You'll be so he can only be traded to his own team.
You'll be blown away by this. They'll get more trade. They'll get more out of them.
They'll get more out of them. Or they'll just throw them in the garbage like they do everyone else.
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