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The Steve Dangle Podcast

Trade Everyone | June 24, 2026

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What trade did the Chicago Blackhawks make and why is it significant?

6.815 - 34.233 Adam Wylde

It truly is amazing that in consecutive decades, the Chicago Blackhawks have made the worst trade of a decade. And you know what's great about this is that they both happened on the exact same day, nine years apart. Sod for Panarin? Sod for Panarin happened June 23rd, 2017.

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34.293 - 46.719

See, sometimes, you know, the negative nantes sitting next to me always take the negative side of things. You know, they always lean into what they are. And you should look at this. How did I get lumped into this? What did I do?

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46.739 - 50.747 Adam Wylde

You should look at this as. You did a whole video about how it sucks ass. Yeah. I know.

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51.128 - 63.905

Thank you for answering the question. Garbage. Fleecing. No. This is. Back to back. What is it? How long was it?

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64.406 - 66.108 Adam Wylde

Eight years? Nine. Nine years.

66.128 - 90.096

2017 to 2020. Wow. Nine years after he did the fleecing the first time, Yarmulke does it again. This is a celebration of the trade master dumping on Chicago. We should be celebrating Yarmulke because he made both of these trades. And that's fucking insane. You know, it's great to all the fame trading.

90.076 - 112.669 Adam Wylde

You know what's great too? Yarmulke has one good trade a decade and this is it. It's amazing. Back to the regularly scheduled programming. There it is. There it is. This is the first time that a team knowingly traded a top five pick in 18 years. Right. They've been traded. Plenty of teams have been stupid and done it by accident. The Leafs. Stutzla and also, yeah, the Leafs.

112.689 - 119.779 Adam Wylde

Yeah, but for reference, the Chicago Blackhawks during the Conor Bedard era, his ELC, have not finished higher than 31st.

119.759 - 130.956

Oh, can you give us that player, the top five traded pick? You should know it. Wait, which? Luke Shen. 2008. That's when the Leafs swapped the pick. Oh, they got the pick. Yeah.

Chapter 2: How did the negative impact of previous trades affect current decisions?

133.64 - 144.076 Jesse Blake

No, I guess, actually. No, they did at the time. No, no. Like when they made the Kessel trade, they didn't know they were giving up the second overall pick. But when they acquired the fifth overall pick for Luke Shen, they didn't know.

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144.156 - 148.703

That's the 2008. That's the last time it happened. Right. That's Luke Shen. So Leafs always involved. Yeah.

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148.683 - 169.947 Adam Wylde

So again, for reference, the Chicago Blackhawks have not finished higher than 31st for the entirety of Conor Bedard's entry level contract, which has expired for those who do not remember. And this is where I find fans like I'm like, I know how old you are. Hmm. Because people were like, excuse me, because I called Stan Bowman a not great general manager because he's not.

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170.408 - 187.228 Adam Wylde

And people are like, he won three cups. What the fuck are you talking about? And I'm like, yeah, when you step into a loaded Ferrari that's already warmed up, you probably can just manage to keep the wheels on for a few years. But eventually you got to change tires and you got to change head gaskets and you got to put brakes on the thing. And.

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187.208 - 199.945 Adam Wylde

Stan Bowman's team truly was the post-2015 team where Taze and Kane were starting to make $10.5 million. Duncan Keith and Brent Seabrook were starting to fall off, and he was not able to keep it together.

199.965 - 202.332 Jesse Blake

$10.5 back then was a lot.

202.312 - 226.622 Adam Wylde

In a $70, $65 million cap era, right? For those who do not remember, let me give it to you. June 2017 to the 23rd of June, blockbuster trade Artemi Panarin from the Chicago Blackhawks to the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for Brandon Saad. In addition, Tyler Mott and a sixth rounder also went to Columbus. Tyler Mott. Tyler Mott, who was a player. He was very much a thing.

226.862 - 247.909 Adam Wylde

Panarin, Mott, and a sixth. Mott never... White hit what we thought he could be, but he had a career. And Anton Forsberg, who turned out to be a pretty good goalie from time to time, and a fifth-round pick went to Chicago. Now, Saad went on to play three more seasons with the Blackhawks. He had 220 games, 62 goals, 106 points. Nine playoff games in that time, five points.

249.291 - 272.312 Adam Wylde

Since the trade, including his entire career, And he was in the Stanley Cup Finals this year with the Vegas Golden Knights. 297 points in 616 games since that trade. Which is half a point a game. Good. Respectable. It is guy. Artemi Panarin played two seasons with the Blackhawks. He played almost every game. 160 games, 55 goals, 169 points. Already we're...

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the recent trades involving Simon Nemech?

366.673 - 373.402 Jesse Blake

Big deal. But if it's Byram Quinn for the fourth to 45th in Crevier.

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374.133 - 399.158 Jesse Blake

What's the conversation like today? It's a risk for both teams. There's lots of risk involved, but, and like some teams are going to be like, oh, that's a fleece for Chicago or that's a fleece for Buffalo, but it's a lot closer to even fourth. Plus the 45th, plus Crevier, and you're taking on Greenway's cap hit. Salary dump.

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399.178 - 412.632 Jesse Blake

And what everyone's left on the floor with regard to this deal is Buffalo was screwed. They were in cap hell. Not really cap hell.

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412.792 - 414.754 Adam Wylde

But it was going to be difficult with their RFAs, right?

414.774 - 433.435 Jesse Blake

Here's what they were staring down the barrel of. They have Zach Benson, who's an RFA. I forgot to mention in my video yesterday, Peyton Krebs is an RFA, and he played all up and down the lineup. And he's a good player, and he's going to get paid. Not as much as Benson, but he's going to get paid. And then I assume they would like...

433.617 - 449.68 Jesse Blake

a world where they might be able to keep Alex Tuck, but they only have like 11 or $12 million to do that. This morning they have $21.3 million plus most of last year's Sabres plus the fourth overall pick.

449.821 - 476.905 Adam Wylde

Holy hell. Let me throw this at you guys. The Buffalo, sorry, the Blackhawks side of this is, remember, I told you the Blackhawks have not finished higher than 31st in the Conor Bedard era. That's quite bad. This trade leaves them with no first round picks this year. Wow. And I got to ask the question, has Chicago retained the same pro scouts from 2017?

479.112 - 497.857 Adam Wylde

Are you allowed to keep your job after keeping the Sodom Panarin trade? Because, man, it looks like you can. Now, it's important to remember, too, Kyle Davidson came up through the ranks under Stan Bowman and was his assistant general manager. That was when Bowman was moved out in 2021. Kyle Davidson was the one that they ended up hiring. He was an internal hire.

Chapter 4: How do the trades affect the future of the Chicago Blackhawks?

539.768 - 549.85 Jesse Blake

And you think he's giving you a discount because. Oh, I don't think they think that they can. No, I don't think they do. No, but they hope it. And that's what fans do is we hope.

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550.392 - 552.015 Adam Wylde

Right. True. That's our job.

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551.995 - 568.519 Jesse Blake

Uh, so like you could look at this deal and be like, all right, well, here's how it could be great for them is if, you know, he signs for, he's making six and a quarter. I think he signs for eight times, six and a quarter. And now all of a sudden you have Bowen Byron for the sweetheart deal.

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568.559 - 600.931 Jesse Blake

Or even if it's like eight or nine or he's going to get double digits, he's going to get potentially more than Owen power and more than Rasmus Darlene. Yep. And it's Bowen Byron. Yep. Like Blackhawks fans who are like, all right, uncle, we get it. Like the Blackhawks are better today than they were yesterday. I think. I think that's more than fair. Sure. But that's insane value.

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601.011 - 621.22 Jesse Blake

It's like going, I equate it to going to your, your favorite restaurant, ordering your favorite meal and finding out the price is now $5,000. Like why? Oh, you don't, you don't like lasagna from Lamanas or whatever. Well, no, it's not that I don't like lasagna from Lamanas. It's that it's now $5,000.

621.2 - 644.305

It's not worth that price. Yeah, it's crazy because we have the bar for what the price should be for Bo Byram. And that's Casey Middlestad, which is a very reasonable deal that was done not too long ago. And everyone was like, yeah, that's a pretty good swap because that's about what Bo Byram is worth. Would you trade today Casey Middlestad for the fifth overall pick?

644.335 - 645.536 Jesse Blake

I'd egg your house.

646.057 - 667.481

No, you wouldn't because that's not reasonable. And Bo Byram's game hasn't changed much. It's so weird that you go after this player who's never been a number one defenseman on his team. And the argument that people are trying to make for the case that maybe he can grow into it is that he was stuck behind all of the great D in Buffalo and he was stuck behind Kale McCarr in Colorado.

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But if those teams believe that they have a guy who's going to be near that level, you hang on to that talent. You keep him and you develop him because he's going to be the next one in line there. You don't just throw that. You don't just swap that for Casey Middlestat.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Morgan Rielly's trade list?

4105.855 - 4121.416 Adam Wylde

Yes. And I think he'll be great in St. Louis. He's going to get a lot of minutes. 100%. Let's move on to the Toronto Maple Leafs. A couple of notes on them. Morgan Riley has officially submitted his list of teams. There are four. They are all Western Conference teams, which that's really nice.

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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to Matthew Knies?

4121.456 - 4135.83 Adam Wylde

He could have just said, no, trade me in the Atlantic. But I would imagine I don't really know what the teams are. Let's take a guess. I would think that I think at least a team in California. San Jose. You think? Yeah. San Jose.

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4135.85 - 4139.253 Jesse Blake

San Jose. Everyone assumes Vancouver because it's sort of where he's from.

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Chapter 7: What does Mike Babcock's return mean for the Oilers?

4140.414 - 4151.303 Jesse Blake

They stink. Okay, I'm glad you brought that up. Why would someone with a full no move be like, please trade me to the Canucks in 2026?

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4151.463 - 4160.795

Especially someone who's never won in their career. I'm going to sign up for this long rebuild. Yeah, no, it doesn't make sense. Brandon Gallagher might be the exception to that, by the way.

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4162.117 - 4165.742 Adam Wylde

Yeah. Yeah. They just said you're not coming back.

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Chapter 8: What are the potential outcomes for Alex Tuch's future?

4165.782 - 4171.99 Jesse Blake

But like, he's a lot more washed. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No disrespect.

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4172.493 - 4179.101 Adam Wylde

Full disrespect. I think full realism. Gallagher is where he is in his career.

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4179.121 - 4187.151 Jesse Blake

You have healthy scratch versus underperforming second pair defensemen. It's a little different.

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4188.553 - 4197.444

San Jose would be on my list for Morgan. Colorado? Is that an interesting place? Western Conference?

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4198.065 - 4207.945 Jesse Blake

They couldn't possibly afford him. But it could just be on his list. Right. Right, yeah. It doesn't have to be realistic. It doesn't have to be like... Oh, all right. Well, then Colorado, Edmonton, Vegas.

4208.005 - 4218.109 Adam Wylde

Yeah. Who are the final four? I don't think Edmonton. I actually, I think... Not Edmonton. So Anaheim's already lost John Carlson. Ooh, Anaheim's a good one. Let's throw them. And they might lose Trouba.

4218.848 - 4221.613 Jesse Blake

All right. So, okay, let's literally do the final four in the West.

4221.874 - 4233.216 Adam Wylde

Colorado, Vegas, Anaheim. But Anaheim is a legitimate spot. Colorado, Vegas or not. I know. But that's what I want to do. Let's do legitimate. We don't have time to mini round. We've got a lot of show to go.

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My guess would be Dallas is on the list. San Jose. I think Anaheim is really good. And then for Utah.

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