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The Steve Dangle Podcast

Trady Tkachuk | June 22, 2026

22 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the 5K fundraiser for the Get REAL Movement?

0.031 - 23.189 Adam Wylde

SDPN is proud again to sponsor and be a part of the 5K fundraiser this June in support of the Get Real Movement and Rainbow Railroad. And we would love your support. There's a donation link just in the description. But we also did our 5K last week and shot it. And there are some surprises this year in terms of what we did and how things went. How'd you feel the next day? Actually, not so bad.

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23.59 - 25.814 Adam Wylde

Were you sore? Where you saw a little baby? I might have fell.

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Chapter 2: How do the hosts describe their experience with the 5K event?

25.834 - 27.377 Adam Wylde

You saw a little baby boy? I might have fell.

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27.537 - 30.302 Jesse Blake

You got to work on that cardio a little.

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30.683 - 33.108 Steve Dangle

Yeah, that too. So you guys ran 5K?

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33.749 - 34.61 Jesse Blake

No. Skated.

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34.691 - 38.778 Adam Wylde

Come on, CJ. Ran. Ran five steps. That would be shocking.

38.798 - 40.141 Steve Dangle

I was like, why am I just hearing of this now?

40.161 - 51.045 Adam Wylde

Do I have a running buddy? No, not unless you want to go really slow. Yeah, but please click on the link. Help us fundraise. And that video, Jesse, when are we expecting that?

51.105 - 54.934 Jesse Blake

This week. Subscribe to the SDPN YouTube channel. It'll be out this week.

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All right, let's get started. with your host, Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go!

Chapter 3: What are the key moments discussed regarding Brady Kachuk's trade?

569.436 - 573.881 Steve Dangle

I mean, I know you're pretty harsh, but like, it's just the fact. I mean, they did it.

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574.441 - 584.853 Adam Wylde

All I'm doing is pointing out what they did, what he did, what he allowed to happen. This is the thing. If it comes across as harsh, those are his actions.

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584.873 - 603.856 Steve Dangle

Right. This is the only thing I take some thought with. we know teams would trade a player in two seconds. A second, they find that player 100% worth their time. Yep. So like loyalty is a, It's got to be a two way street, but it's not really like in pro sports. Loyalty is kind of, I mean, everyone's okay. Sidney Crosby is low to the Pittsburgh Penguins.

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603.876 - 607.58 Steve Dangle

Like let's, we don't need to debate that, but like in general, there isn't a ton of loyalty.

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608.181 - 614.187 Adam Wylde

And I, Alan Walsh would be in here hitting me over the head with a pan. Like he's like player rights, player rights. They can do what they want, you know?

614.247 - 623.937 Steve Dangle

And so my only thought is Brady played in Ottawa a long time. He would have played those next two years. He was going to earn the right to free agency and he was going to go to Florida. Yeah.

623.917 - 632.948 Adam Wylde

So when he said on April 29th, oh, I want to win here and these are all distractions. Was there had there been conversations before that? I don't think so.

632.988 - 648.79 Steve Dangle

Not with the team. OK, because remember, he left the team right after the for the birth of his child, right after the fourth game of that series. So he wasn't there when they had their actual media breakdown. He came back to the city. And I think that's when he made that comment. I think everything has happened since that point.

648.81 - 650.033 Adam Wylde

Okay, that makes a lot more sense.

Chapter 4: What are the key moves in the NHL off-season?

3608.333 - 3609.034 Steve Dangle

Aggressive guy.

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3609.054 - 3619.57 Adam Wylde

Yeah, I like... Listen, and you know what? As a stockier guy, I like the fact that he's 5'9 and almost 200 pounds. Like, let's go. But... Other than Jesse, he could fit in pretty well on the panel right now. I think he could.

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3619.55 - 3646.692 Adam Wylde

just three square bodied madness um but uh but but when i i just look at this and i go okay so that so that's one thing number two darren radish okay really i think everybody likes that move when does he want out uh sorry i'm just whoa The main contention with that deal, and this is I want to talk pricing for a second, not Darren Radish. You broke down Darren Radish. Awesome on the CJ show.

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3647.093 - 3664.002 Adam Wylde

Steve, you have a great video on Darren Radish. We don't need to keep continuing to talk about the same stuff with Darren Radish. But pricing is key because he's making eight and a half and he could have got 10 probably on the open market because he's a right shot defenseman and there's nobody available. Maybe nine and a half. Would that be crazy?

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3663.982 - 3671.974 Adam Wylde

He could only get eight years, though, in a sign-in. Right, which is how they brought the AAV down, right? Right. So that would have been 68 over seven years.

3671.994 - 3679.986 Steve Dangle

He's got $68 million in this contract. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure the last offer from the Lightning, which was for fewer years, was like $43 million.

3680.006 - 3680.226 Adam Wylde

Right.

3680.607 - 3687.757 Steve Dangle

So if you look at it, he made a lot more money. Now he signed for longer term. But the Lightning were concerned about the term and they weren't going to go as high on the AAV.

3687.837 - 3705.16 Adam Wylde

So what does... So Darren Radish, I think, is paid as a second defenseman on a great squad, for instance. Okay, that's what I think the pricing's at. Like we, in our heads, are still in 2023 in terms of where the cap is. Eight and a half million dollars for a top defenseman back then was...

Chapter 5: How are teams preparing for the upcoming draft?

3705.14 - 3714.008 Adam Wylde

Top defenseman money. Top defenseman money now, when we talk about what Cale McCarr is going to get, what Zach Rowinsky is going to get, what Quinn Hughes is going to get.

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3714.028 - 3715.329 Steve Dangle

They're both signing contracts this summer.

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3715.429 - 3729.841 Adam Wylde

Okay, so what's that price so people can understand what this is likely to look like? And I'm not asking for the exact figures, CJ, because these deals aren't done yet. But what range are we talking about for a 1A defenseman?

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3730.242 - 3747.968 Steve Dangle

Well, Hughes and McCarr could each sign for $15 million, and I wouldn't bat an eye. So you're talking, the radish should be half of that. Half of that. And you expect, or like 60% of it, basically. Like a little more than half. I think that's good value. Well, if a guy gets 40 points, 50 points. I don't even think the Leafs care if it's good value.

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3748.088 - 3764.596 Steve Dangle

Honestly, the Leafs needed someone who does the things he does well. And they were like, there's one of those guys available this offseason. We have to find a way to get him. And they found a way to get them. And do you know what? It means something that they got them like 10 days before free agency because it removed that concern at all.

3764.616 - 3779.443 Steve Dangle

Like you go to July 1st, even if you've got a rapport with the agent. And I know we think a lot of the deals are cooked. And I think to some degree, there's some truth there. Nothing is official till it's official. And there's always the chance it gets to July 1st and some team comes in with something and it derails your plans. Simply can't say no to this.

3779.423 - 3793.666 Steve Dangle

My point is there's real value that the Leafs got this deal done early and they just went and got their guy. And I even liked the John Chico pretty candidly said, we know there's risk here, but this is, we needed them. Straying from the Leafs a little bit because it's kind of a little wide.

3793.686 - 3794.448 Jesse Blake

It's not like you.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of Ryan O'Reilly's potential trade?

3794.468 - 3795.549 Steve Dangle

No, I know, I know.

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3795.609 - 3808.369 Jesse Blake

But it's a league wide phenomenon that the Leafs are definitely a part of right now. Has the league exploded in the week before the draft in a way that we haven't seen in several years?

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3809.251 - 3822.839 Steve Dangle

It feels like it. This is always a blurry time of year for me because usually I'm at the end of a long playoff run and travel, and so sometimes it all blends together. but this feels different. Well, first of all, the cup ended a little sooner.

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3822.879 - 3823.721 Jesse Blake

Yes, it did.

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3824.001 - 3838.107 Steve Dangle

You know, two years ago, I believe game seven was June 24th of the cup final. So we sit here on June 22nd, the cup's been handed out for a week already. Um, so it's been more time, but yeah, it's, it's, I like it. I got to be honest.

3838.127 - 3851.702 Steve Dangle

And from what I've heard in non-Olympic years with the schedule moving up starting next season, the cup is going to continually be handed out a little sooner in June. Not like crazy, but like June 10th. June 10th will be like normal, I think. That's perfect. Wow.

3851.682 - 3873.1 Steve Dangle

again olympic years push the schedule out because they take that break um but the point is is we're going to have more of this moving like this might be a new trend and we're going to have more of this time in the lead up to july 1st in the draft for other stuff to happen and september won't be such a dead month either right because listen nobody needs eight friggin preseason games i'm i'm excited that they're starting at the end of september it means that when we get

3873.08 - 3898.716 Adam Wylde

out of don't even need four but i'm taking four because it's moving in the right direction like listen labor day hits we come back to full three full three episodes a week and it was five weeks sometimes six weeks sometimes before we got a real nhl game i'm just as you know just as a fan i'm pumped about this now i want to ask about number one thing it's this is a yes or no gavin mckenna are they drafting him yes okay we'll move on from that uh matthew nice

3899.118 - 3904.791 Adam Wylde

He's out there. This is not a yes or no. You said earlier on the show, the Montreal thing isn't dead.

Chapter 7: How is the Seattle Kraken changing their strategy?

3924.999 - 3948.987 Steve Dangle

It's just it's hard to handicap exactly where it's going because I think we all understand the dynamics here. The Leafs aren't trading this guy just to get rid of him. You're only moving him because it's such a overwhelmingly amazing deal that it's a true ground shaker. And so I don't know if that's going to come. But the Canadians need to get an impact forward this offseason.

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3948.967 - 3957.739 Steve Dangle

And ideally they getting a center, but I think in their minds, because they have a hole down the middle and you don't want Jake Evans playing too high in your lineup as he was in the playoffs.

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3957.759 - 3962.947 Adam Wylde

Got to know, but do you expect Oliver Kapanen to step into that role? Do you want to, do you want to hold him back from that?

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3963.147 - 3980.627 Steve Dangle

I think ideally you're getting a center, but you're also, look, there's not a lot of centers. No. Like Vincent Trochek's up there on the trade board. I think he could still be an option for Montreal. Larkin, it doesn't seem like that's a fit. Where are the next centers? Like Robert Thomas is down at the bottom because it doesn't seem like he's moving.

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3980.988 - 3990.683 Steve Dangle

So I think Montreal has to be open-minded and will be open-minded about maybe adding a winger instead if it's the right winger and then just figuring it out. Maybe they can still get a center down the road.

3991.023 - 3995.45 Adam Wylde

Having Slaff and Nyes in the top six would be insane for them, by the way. That would be crazy.

3995.47 - 4004.782 Steve Dangle

Completely nuts. So Montreal was very serious, obviously, at the deadline in getting Matthew Nyes. And I think that they would... Like to rekindle that, but it doesn't seem like the fire is burning.

4004.963 - 4028.35 Adam Wylde

Is that story true about the late filing of the trade? You know, because we've heard one side, which is they filed it at 301. And the other side, which I think probably comes from former Leafs management via people that actually that's not true. And they weren't close. And it was Michael Hage that they couldn't or excuse me, Hagee, that they weren't that they weren't sure.

4028.33 - 4032.716 Adam Wylde

you know, that Montreal didn't want to part with, Toronto needed for the deal to happen. What's your sense of that?

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