The Telepathy Tapes
Talk Tracks Ep 11: Tom Campbell's Theory of Everything Explains Telepathy
Sun, 08 Jun 2025
What if consciousness—not matter—is the foundation of reality? In this episode of Talk Tracks, physicist and consciousness researcher Tom Campbell joins Ky Dickens to share his “Big Theory of Everything,” a model that unites quantum physics and spirituality by proposing that we are individual units of consciousness participating in a vast, information-based simulation. Drawing from decades of research, including his time at NASA and groundbreaking experiments at the Monroe Institute, Campbell explains how love, free will, and the evolution of consciousness shape the nature of existence. The conversation explores everything from out-of-body experiences and telepathy to reincarnation and the Akashic Records. Campbell argues that reducing fear and ego is the key to lowering entropy and evolving as conscious beings. His theory doesn’t reject faith—it reframes it, offering a scientific lens to explore timeless spiritual truths. Whether you call it God, the larger consciousness system, or something else entirely, this episode invites you to stay curious and open to the possibility that science and spirituality are deeply interconnected. Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community. This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call—subscribe today and join us: thetelepathytapes.supercast.com. Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for sponsoring this episode. Visit Zocdoc.com/TAPES to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Visit Liquid IV and use code TAPES at checkout to get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. Visit AncientNutrition.com/TELEPATHY to get 25% off your first order. Visit Quince.com/tapes for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Visit HelloFresh.com/TAPES10FM now to get 10 Free Meals with a Free Item For Life. Follow The Telepathy Tapes: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetelepathytapes/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@telepathytapes YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheTelepathyTapes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thetelepathytapes X/Twitter: https://x.com/TelepathyTapes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
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Chapter 2: What is Tom Campbell's Big Theory of Everything?
So if you have chaos, if you have a lot of disorder, then you have high entropy. The low entropy, the minimum chaos, is where people cooperate, where the individuals care for each other, where there's trust, where it's not, what can I get, but how can I help? So that I call moving toward love.
So the purpose here is that we as pieces of consciousness need to have an environment in which there are very meaningful, consequential choices. So initially, we consciousness were just talking to each other. We pieces of consciousness had communication. That's the first virtual reality was communication protocols. And then
We found out we just didn't grow very much with that because being in a big chat room just doesn't really give you a lot of choices that are challenging. So the system needed a second virtual reality, which provided us with more choices. So it got a set of initial conditions. It got a rule set and let that rule set determine how those initial conditions would change with time.
Now, I call that the big digital bang. Other people call that the big bang. The materialists do. What that means is that the initial conditions were a ball of plasma, high temperature, high energy, very small volume, and the rule set is what we call physics. And when you hit the run button, you let those initial conditions change.
And when they change, you end up with suns and universes and planets and eventually us, you know, growing there. And we're here to make choices. And if we make choices toward cooperation, caring, helpful, those sorts of positive things, then we evolve. We increase the quality of our consciousness. We lower our entropy.
And if we make the choices toward the opposite side, which is fear, so there's no trust, it's all about me. What can I get? How can I take it? How can I keep it? then we de-evolve. So that's our purpose here is to learn to become love, to make choices that are love-based, that are caring, that are about other rather than about self.
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Chapter 3: How does consciousness relate to reality?
The two opposite poles are love and fear, not love and hate. Hate is a product of fear. It's love and fear. And the way it works is that fear creates ego. That's the sense of me, myself, what's in it for me. And it also creates beliefs. You have beliefs about the way things are. On the love side, it's all about other. It's all about how can I serve? What can I do? How can I help?
Those two opposites are really the struggle, if you will, that animates everything else. I mean, if you look at all of our books, movies, our culture, it's the good versus evil is kind of the fundamental theme of all things. Well, that's really the fundamental theme in the big picture as well.
Most people are full of fear, fear of not being good enough, fear of not being appreciated, fear of not being lovable, fear of getting things wrong or being laughed at. And those fears tend to dominate your choices. The choices you make are mostly because of the fears that you have. So that's making choices out of fear, and that's de-evolutionary.
What we're trying to do then is to learn how to let go of the fear. And that's all you have to learn. You don't have to learn something new to become love. All you have to do is get rid of the fear. When the fear goes, the ego and the beliefs go with it. So that leaves you then... a being of love. So it's about getting rid of fear. That's the key thing that we're here to do.
And we express who we are at the being level, at our core of us. We express that by our choices. So the choices are love-based choices, and we evolve our quality of our consciousness, lower our entropy, and we're happy. We enjoy life. We smile a lot. We laugh. We have fun. When we don't and we make choices based on fear, we struggle. Life is always a struggle.
How can you get over the next barrier? How can you... you know, get to the next point. Everything is difficult. Life is hard. It seems to always knock you down before you can really get up. And you have this sense of struggle and almost impossibility of being able to actually take charge of your life because there's so many other things pushing you this way and pulling you that way.
So that's what you feel like when you are making choices based on fear. And what you feel like when you're making choices based on love is wonderful.
What's so interesting to me is, you know, your theory doesn't just echo physics, right? But it echoes these like ancient wisdoms. We have to lay down our ego and make loving decisions with our free will in order to evolve. And actually, with that in mind, I would love you to discuss if there is free will. Is that a thing?
Are we living in a deterministic universe, or do we actually have agency over our lives?
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Chapter 4: Are we living in a simulation according to Tom Campbell?
Yes and no. He had his own sound that he had generated. Bob took those binaural beats, included them with his sound, and called it Hemisync and got a patent on it. So that's where Hemisync comes from.
But that does help someone, right? Like, does Hemisync...
Yes, yes. If you listen to binaural beats, you don't have to listen to Hemisync. That's a patented thing. You pay money for that. If you just listen to binaural beats, I sell a bunch of binaural beats on my website. They're very inexpensive. And what it does is it puts you in like a meditation state, a theta state, where your dominant EEG is theta. And it holds you there so you don't drift out.
So it's like you've been a meditator for 10 years and it gives you the stability in a very productive meditation state like you were a 10-year practiced meditator. So yes, it's very valuable for beginners.
And so the first, so first it's like meditation. Then if you're lucky with meditation, you can leave your body and astral project. And then it seems like the next state of that might be, I'm just making these orders up, but it seems like the order goes and might be connecting with other beings that aren't even on this plane.
It doesn't actually come in a series like that. It's just, you get it all at once. Once you're able to get your mind to the state that you're in that point consciousness where you're no longer processing your body, then all you need to have is an intent of where you want to go and what you want to do.
And you will go there and do that because now you're in consciousness space and you can teleport around just with your intention. If you want to talk to... Certain beings, you can do that. You just put your intent out there or who you want to talk to, what do you want to learn and so on. And there it is. If it's a dead relative of yours, then you can do that too.
whatever you want to do, and then eventually they become tools that you use. It's really good to be able to do mind-to-mind telepathic communication, say, with your teenagers, because a parent and the teenagers tend to have problems communicating, but you can connect with them mind-to-mind and
If they're very sensitive, they recognize you when you do that, but most people aren't that sensitive and they just, it's to them, it's just their own thoughts. They're just thinking. These ideas just come into their minds and you can tell them things, but you have to be very careful. If you try to manipulate them that way, it'll backfire because that's high entropy, not low entropy.
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Chapter 5: What role does free will play in consciousness?
But if you really don't want to, you're never forced to do anything. You either just sit on the sidelines or you go someplace else. And you end up in some other virtual reality making choices. And you'll find that this one, the Earth reality, is actually a pretty good one. It's not a bad one to be in, regardless of current events.
And so the whole idea of consciousness and evolving is to have the lowest entropy system and love and kindness and coordination are lowest forms of entropy. So truly all the world religions are correct that love and kindness are more important, more important than anything.
Yes, that is true. And they're low entropy, basically. You can think, working together, cooperating, that creates more good for everybody. Whereas fighting with people, arguing and fussing and warring, that just creates more chaos.
Thank you so much, Tom. My head feels like it's completely broken after this one. So you all can learn more about Tom's work and his theory of everything and order his books at mybigtoe.com. And for some listeners, especially those who recoil at the thought of a simulation, my hope is that you heard more harmony than contradiction.
What Tom Campbell describes, I don't think it's meant to replace faith, but to offer a scientific lens with which to explore it. And at its core, Tom's theory affirms so many of the values at the heart of spiritual life. Love and free will and compassion and growth and the idea that we are more than these bodies that we inhabit. So whether you think of that greater intelligence as God...
as consciousness, or as something unnamed, this conversation invites us to stay curious, to listen, and to consider the possibility that science and spirituality might not be at odds, but part of the same unfolding mystery. So thank you for being here as always, and let's keep asking bold questions and holding space for wonder.
That's it for this episode of The Talk Tracks, but new episodes will now be released every other Sunday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones, that knit together our reality. Please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. Thank you to my amazing collaborators. Original music was created by Elizabeth PW.
Original logo and cover art by Ben Kendor Design. The audio mix and finishing by Sarah Ma. Our amazing podcast coordinator, Jill Pichesnik. The telepathy tapes coordinator and my right hand, Catherine Ellis. And I'm Kai Dickens, your writer, creator, and host. Thank you again for joining us. Thank you.
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