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The Trial of Diddy

“I Can’t Carry the Shame”

Fri, 16 May 2025

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Cassie Ventura, Diddy’s ex-girlfriend has been on the stand for 3 days in a row giving her gut-wrenching testimony into their decade long relationship, and the alleged abuse she experienced at his hand. It’s now the defense’s turn to question Cassie about her claims, and for our listeners to get a word for word deep dive into all of the details.  Listen in as Attorney’s Emily Anne Johnson and Anna Estevao, take Cassie back to the years of 2011, 2016, 2018 and 2023 in great detail. The Trial of Diddy is hosted by DailyMail.com’sManhattan-based, Kayla Brantley, reporter-at-large and TV correspondent at Daily Mail, and Germania-Rodriguez Poleo, Chief US Reporter. Our Listener Survey is here: https://ex-plorsurvey.com/survey/selfserve/550/g517/250305?list=6 Follow us on instagram @thetrialpod Email us [email protected] Whatsapp us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Presenters: Kayla Brantley and Germania Rodriguez-Poleo Editor: Sam Morris Producer: Serita Wesley Writers: Caroline Cheetham & Liz Hull Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East   A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the background and charges against Diddy?

1.926 - 14.015 Narrator/Intro Voice

Seriously popular. The following episode explores a number of allegations regarding the artist Diddy. He denies all charges and has pled not guilty to sex trafficking, racketeering and transportation to engage in prostitution.

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Chapter 2: Who are the hosts and what is the podcast about?

14.495 - 20.179 Kayla Brantley

Welcome to The Trial of Diddy. I'm Kayla Brantley. And I'm Germania Rodriguez-Poleo. We'll be back in a second.

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31.852 - 52.497 David Patrick Caracos (Promo Speaker)

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57.838 - 62.772 Narrator/Intro Voice

The biggest secret in the entertainment industry that really wasn't a secret at all.

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63.492 - 66.873 Kayla Brantley

At the height of his career, Sean Diddy Combs had it all.

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67.413 - 76.417 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

Everything Diddy touched turned to gold. Now, he faces multiple federal charges in New York, including sex trafficking and allegedly running a criminal enterprise.

77.679 - 89.284 Kayla Brantley

Another woman has now come forward, alleging Combs of sexual assault. Music mogul and rapper Sean Diddy. He claims she was drugged and sexually assaulted by Combs. Oh, this guy is dangerous.

89.364 - 98.469 Kayla Brantley

From freak-offs to the mysterious list, the shocking case that has gripped the world is finally here. And we'll be bringing you every detail as it happens.

99.569 - 101.55 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

Welcome to The Trial of Diddy.

Chapter 3: What is Cassie Ventura's testimony about her relationship with Diddy?

105.615 - 130.854 Kayla Brantley

Welcome to the podcast. Right now, it's Thursday, May 15th. When we're recording this, it's 1.07 p.m. in New York. Today, Cassie is back on the stand for the third day in a row, and she's approaching nearly 20 hours of testimony. And so far, we've heard what can only be described as gut-wrenching testimony. But today, she's under cross-examination, and it has finally begun.

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131.255 - 135.078 Kayla Brantley

We'll be bringing you her words shortly, exactly as we heard them in court.

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135.618 - 140.982 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

That's right, Kayla. Today we're going to discuss how Diddy allegedly raped Cassie after they split in 2018.

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141.302 - 153.811 Kayla Brantley

Yeah, you'll hear how she broke down and revealed that she considered, quote, walking into traffic because of recurring flashbacks from the hundreds of sex parties she says she was forced to partake in.

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154.252 - 160.016 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

She said she was desperate for Diddy to read her book so he could understand the impact of what he had done to her.

160.546 - 167.229 Kayla Brantley

And we'll hear how she settled her lawsuit for $20 million just 24 hours after she filed it back in 2023.

167.849 - 171.431 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

Welcome to the trial of Diddy. I can't carry the shame.

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Chapter 4: How did the relationship between Cassie and Diddy begin and evolve?

291.815 - 301.04 Kayla Brantley

During those 11 years you took care of him? In the ways I could, yes. You believed he needed someone to take care of him? I don't know. In some ways? Yes.

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302.745 - 306.448 Kayla Brantley

She continued asking Cassie about her relationship with Diddy.

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306.528 - 326.138 Cassie Ventura

I haven't thought about that in a while. The beginning of the relationship was really fast and fast-paced. Scary, but the more time I spent with him and got to know him, his real personality or what I thought was his real personality came out and I liked who that was.

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326.898 - 333.42 Kayla Brantley

We've also just been shown a series of text messages between Diddy and Cassie, which were sent on August 5th, 2009.

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334.04 - 341.581 Kayla Brantley

Diddy, I miss you already. Me too. Diddy, when do you want to freak off? Laugh out loud.

342.281 - 349.31 Cassie Ventura

LOL, I'm just going up to change. I'm always ready to freak off, lol, lol.

350.13 - 367.856 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

Much of the evidence we've heard so far today has been messages, and we're talking texts and emails which have been exchanged between Diddy and Cassie. Some of them are pretty graphic, as a lot of this case has been so far. We'll bring you more of those on Tuesday, but one email the court heard about was sent in December 2009.

369.642 - 387.388 Kayla Brantley

So this was what the defense say was just a flavor of what the messages say. And what the defense claim these messages show is not what was happening during the freak offs, but rather what Cassie was anticipating or wanting to happen. This was an email sent by Cassie to Diddy, which Estevo made Cassie read out loud to the court.

388.669 - 413.384 Cassie Ventura

I want it and I want to give you the same. I just think I have to trust you beyond it and just being sexual. Do you know what I mean? In order for me to be more open with the things we do in bed, I need to feel safe, like home. Like this is my husband. This is the only man that will ever have this aggressive slash sexual side of me.

Chapter 5: What were 'freak-offs' and how did they affect Cassie?

855.282 - 875.002 Cassie Ventura

That's a great question. I wanted to make him happy. I was in a really significantly mature relationship that I don't think I was prepared for. Now when I look back at it, but yeah, I loved him. I didn't want him to think that I thought anything bad of him for it. I just wanted to make him happy.

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875.868 - 887.397 Kayla Brantley

She said the freak offs became a weekly occurrence and she was given ecstasy and later cocaine to help her stay awake and perform for Diddy for days on end. But pretty quickly, she says she realized she didn't want to be involved.

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888.098 - 907.385 Cassie Ventura

I just felt like it was all I was good for him. I just felt pretty horrible about myself. I felt disgusting. I was humiliated. I didn't have those words to like put together at the time, like how horrible I really felt. And I didn't. I couldn't talk to anybody about it, so.

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908.185 - 918.889 Kayla Brantley

The jury was shown several stills from videos of Cassie and various escorts at freak-offs. And we should say here that the public and media in the court were unable to see these intimate photographs to protect her.

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919.429 - 940.962 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

She said the sex parties took place at both their homes in New York and Miami and in hotels all over the world, including in Ibiza and Turks and Caicos. She said they used fake names to make their reservations, She called herself Jackie Star or Veronica Bang or Anita Crawford and Diddy went by Frank Black or Frank White.

941.602 - 948.528 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

She said his staff also booked the hotels for them and bought the baby oil, lubricants and condoms for the sex sessions.

948.948 - 970.805 Kayla Brantley

She said expensive scented candles would be used in the hotel rooms and as many as 10 large bottles of baby oil were poured all over her and the escort during each freak-off because Diddy liked them to appear, quote, glistening. She also recounted one occasion at the La Hermitage Hotel in Beverly Hills where a blow-up pool full of baby oil was set up for them to get into.

971.285 - 990.979 Kayla Brantley

Later, she said Diddy asked his assistants to bring studio lighting, lighting which changed colors in time to the music, to the freak-offs. She also said that the rooms would be left in a mess with baby oil all over the walls and all over the furniture. And sometimes hotels demanded they pay compensation because they need to be cleaned up or redecorated.

991.279 - 1013.682 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

The jury was shown lots of text messages between Cassie and Diddy discussing potential escorts for these sex parties. And she said eventually it became her job. She said she contacted them via Craigslist, Backpage, or various agencies, including one called Cowboys for Angels and another called Latin Men. She was shown pictures of 19 different male escorts.

Chapter 6: What drugs were involved in the freak-offs and how did Cassie cope?

1354.198 - 1366.701 Cassie Ventura

I just feared for my career. I feared for my family. Just embarrassing, all of it. It's horrible and disgusting. No one should ever do that to anyone.

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1367.041 - 1371.042 Emily Anne Johnson (Lead Prosecutor)

What, if anything, did Sean say to you about the impact of releasing the freak-off videos?

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1371.502 - 1383.005 Cassie Ventura

That it could ruin everything that I worked for, just make me look like a slut. I would be shamed. And I wasn't supposed to be on those videos. I didn't want to be in them.

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1383.814 - 1389.659 Kayla Brantley

Cassie also said she and Diddy visited sex clubs together in New York and one in Las Vegas called The Green Door.

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1390.239 - 1392.661 Emily Anne Johnson (Lead Prosecutor)

What was your reaction to visiting these sex clubs?

1393.322 - 1412.337 Cassie Ventura

It was just confusing. By that point, I was pretty messed up. I remember there being a time where I got just way too drunk to do anything and we had to leave. It's just uncomfortable when it's not something you're into. I'm not into seeing the person I'm in love with be with somebody else that's not my thing.

1413.18 - 1421.067 Anna Estevao (Defense Lawyer)

What, if anything, did you tell Sean about whether you wanted to go to sex clubs? I was vocal about it. I told him it made me uncomfortable.

1421.147 - 1423.709 Cassie Ventura

He knew. He knew how I behaved.

1424.349 - 1435.419 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

She explained that several times she tried to leave a freak off and would end up in alleyways behind the hotel they were at or in the hotel kitchen, but Diddy would always end up finding her and taking her back.

Chapter 7: How did the alleged abuse and control impact Cassie's career and wellbeing?

1540.418 - 1543.272 Cassie Ventura

plugging my phone in and going to bed. You should do the same.

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1544.13 - 1558.8 Kayla Brantley

She said when she got home, her best friend, Carrie Morgan, was there. Her friend Carrie was so upset when she saw the state of Cassie's face that she's the one who called the police. But when the officers arrived, Cassie said she decided she didn't want to report Diddy. She said she wanted to protect him.

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1559.341 - 1571.73 Kayla Brantley

And Cassie told the jury that it wasn't the first time Diddy put his hands on her and hit and kicked her during a freak off. She said his bodyguards and assistants would also witness the physical assaults. She said one actually quit after witnessing it.

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1572.29 - 1575.391 Emily Anne Johnson (Lead Prosecutor)

Were you ever injured after Sean was physically abusive with you?

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1576.131 - 1583.494 Cassie Ventura

Yes. How often? Anytime he was physical, there would be at least some trace, a bruise or something.

1584.154 - 1586.675 Emily Anne Johnson (Lead Prosecutor)

What, if anything, did you do to recover from these times?

1587.095 - 1591.537 Cassie Ventura

Recovery was days worth. I would just kind of hide out for that period.

1591.937 - 1592.957 Emily Anne Johnson (Lead Prosecutor)

Where would you hide?

1593.618 - 1612.089 Germania Rodriguez-Poleo

Hotel rooms. Cassie also recalled an incident in January 2009 when they were at a party at a nightclub in LA called the Ace of Diamonds. She said she had been speaking to a music producer at the club and when they left, Diddy called her a slut in the car. She said she was drunk and she punched him hard in the face.

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