Bernard Hudson: New Orleans Attack, Cybertruck Explosion, CIA Corruption, & Tulsi Gabbard
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What insights can you share about life in the CIA?
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1989.
And what did you do, roughly speaking, for CIA?
So I was a case officer.
Yes.
Which means my job was I was focused on foreign governments and foreign posts where you're trained up. given language skills, given set of skills to manage what we call trade craft, how to operate clandestinely and safely overseas. And then you're assigned undercover to an embassy. And that sort of becomes your career with stints back in what we call headquarters in Virginia.
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What was the impact of the Iraq invasion?
So I served throughout the entire Middle East. I was in Iraq. I was in Africa. I was in the Levant. I was in Pakistan. Where in the Levant? Jordan.
Interesting. What was Pakistan like?
So Peshawar, Pakistan- You were in Peshawar? Yeah, but before 9-11 was the most alien place that I've ever gone. I wasn't there permanently. I was just, I would go in for business, but that was an alien place.
You think? I was there two weeks after 9-11. I've never seen anything like that.
Yeah, it's even alien. Even Pakistanis who live in Islamabad or Raupindi or Karachi, when they go into Peshawar will remark, This is a different country. This is really Afghanistan. It just happens to be inside Pakistan's borders.
It's a cool town, don't you think?
It is very, if you like that sort of man who would be king vibe.
The Flashman Hotel is there.
If you like the Flashman Hotel, if you like that sort of British late colonial chic. Totally. It's the place to go.
The last flag bearer from the retreat from Kabul is there. The last, you know, the last guy who survived. Yeah, rode in into there. Interesting. Okay, so you served an interesting post doing the kind of work that people associate with the CIA, not reading, you know, foreign telegram posts back at headquarters.
No, I was thankfully spared that. I was able to actually serve, again, you know, sort of undercover, you know, working, trying to record or recruit what we call human sources and foreign intelligence to go back to our government.
How did it change the agency over the 28 years?
So, there were three CIAs that I served in. So, there was the Cold War CIA that I joined in 1989. Now, I joined like only nine months before the wall came down. But the ethos of that place up until, say, 91, it was always focused on Russia and the Soviet Union, Warsaw Pact.
Why do establishment figures fear Tulsi Gabbard?
And then it went and I won't call it an identity crisis, but certainly a change in its character as the United States sort of moved into the peace dividend era, say sort of 91 when the Soviet Union is no more and NATO starts expanding westward. In that period, you know, you had a lot of basically a struggle to figure out what does the agency really want to focus on? And it never really came to a clear answer until Tuesday morning, 11 September. And then it became the third agency that I served in. Where were you? So that morning, I was at home. I was in an apartment getting ready to go to an assignment overseas during my final preparations. I saw that the news had said a plane had just struck a building in New York City.
I thought, you know, that was pretty weird. Clear day, you know, a little suspicious. Jump in my car to go to CIA headquarters. On the radio, I hear that they had just hit the second tower. And I get into the parking lot, and there's, you know, a lot of things going on. A woman tells me, I didn't know this person, but they said, you know, in the way things had happened on that Tuesday, people would talk to you who didn't normally talk to each other. Hey, somebody just blew up the State Department. Now, that was obviously a garble of the plane hitting the Pentagon. So, I went into the building. Went to the Near East Section, which was my home division.
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Chapters
6 chapters
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What insights can you share about life in the CIA?
0:00–1:43
2
What was the impact of the Iraq invasion?
1:43–3:46
3
Why do establishment figures fear Tulsi Gabbard?
3:46–8:02
4
How do intelligence agencies wield unchecked power?
8:02–11:15
5
Are powerful figures in Washington being blackmailed?
11:15–15:17
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Why won't the intelligence community release JFK and 9/11 files?
15:17–2:10:17
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