Matt Walsh: Dave Smith/Douglas Murray Debate, Transgenderism, and What It Really Means to Be a Man

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Should Gay Couples Be Able to Adopt?

Matt Walsh 0:00
Okay, so I'm going to, I'm not an ex all that much, but I do read you. And sometimes I read your tweets and I'm like, Matt Walsh, ladies and gentlemen, spinning people up. Here's one. We've been saying for many years that gay adoption and surrogacy should be illegal. Now everyone else seems to be catching on. This is an abomination. We've been saying for many years that gay adoption is an abomination.
Jane Doe 0:24
I've never heard anybody say that.
Matt Walsh 0:27
Wow, we're just diving right in.
We're diving right in. Day adoption is an abomination. Yeah, well, I think there I was referring to social conservatives because social conservatives still somehow get a bad rap. So, you know, so-called social conservatives, even among other conservatives and other people on the right, it seems to me. But so when I say we, I mean like so-called social conservatives.
Matt Walsh 1:12
I've never heard them say that. I've never heard anybody. I think I agree with what you said, but I'm not. I don't think I've ever heard a single person say that. Everyone seems to be afraid to say that.
Yeah, most people are. That's why I think, but, you know, so-called social conservatism is, that's why it's not popular even on the right.
Matt Walsh 1:32
Can I ask you, is there anything more hated on the right than social conservatism?
I don't think so.
Matt Walsh 1:39
So you could say, like, I think we should drop an atomic bomb on a bunch of people and just, like, kill them all and their kids. And people are like, well, that's a really good idea. But if you're like, actually, we should, like, save some kids, then they hate you. What is that? Yeah.

What Are the Effects of the LGBT Agenda on Society?

Or we should look at the way that... human society was structured for thousands of years and we should probably consider that they were right about a lot of that stuff you know maybe not everything right maybe not everything but there are just certain basic civilizational truths that we have moved away from in recent decades But I don't think there was any good reason to move away from them. And so if human beings did something a certain way for literally millennia in every civilization that we know of, It's probably right. I mean, there's probably a lot to be said for it. Again, not in every case, but in most cases.
Matt Walsh 2:39
It's worth pondering anyway. It tells you something if, right, if every civilization, none of which that we know of, had contact with each other, came to the same conclusions. Exactly.
So it's something like the, you know, gay adoption. That, and this isn't the only argument against it, but I think it is a worthwhile argument that... There's never been a society anywhere on earth, anywhere, period, where they have had two men in a romantic relationship starting a family. That's just that's never existed. It's always been a man and a woman start a family. Or in certain ancient civilizations and even some primitive ones today, you might have a man and several women, you might have polygamy. That's a pretty common feature, I would say. It's certainly common, but you never had, and why do you have polygamy? I don't support polygamy, but there was a logic to it, especially in ancient times. You got to create people.
The whole point of the family is to make children and care for them. And a family that's headed up by two gay men, that's why it's an abomination.
Matt Walsh 3:49
Well, it never happened before, and now it's happening, and that's why we call it progress, right? This is progress. It's something that's never been done.
Well, it's progress in the way that cancer progresses. So when I hear about progressivism... I think of progressivism. It is progress. So we're at stage four gay right now, would you say? Oh, yeah. Full on stage four. Yeah. Terminal. It's a terminal case.
Matt Walsh 4:21
Yeah, I figure why not just jump right into it. So I think you make an obvious and very fair and smart point. We should pay attention to the way things have always been done because maybe we can learn something. It's like discarding it all. French Revolution style doesn't end well. I totally agree. But what's the more affirmative, detailed case against it?

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