The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: a16z's David George on How $BN Funds Can 5×, Do Margins & Revenue Matter in AI & the Most Controversial Bet at a16z
15 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Our best performing fund in the history of the firm is actually a $1 billion fund. If you overweight the fear of future theoretical competition, you can always talk yourself out of making an investment. The number one way to measure a company is ultimately return on invested capital.
Chapter 2: Why do mega funds not reduce returns?
On the gross margin point today, I'll say this, we give a little bit more of a pass than we used to. At what point does the entry price do you think for OpenAI become not a good use of dollars? What I just don't understand that I would love to is flow. Can you help me understand flow? Because I think the world kind of scratched their head.
Why did it make sense to you when it didn't make sense to anyone else? This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and I'm so excited for the show today.
Chapter 3: Is public market capital cheaper than private capital?
This guest is a dear friend, a long-time friend, and so I was hurt even more when he did a competitive show recently with another podcast. I was so pissed off, I actually said to him, listen, we'll do our show, but it's gonna be spicier than normal. I'm not gonna go easy on you, and you're gonna have to put up with it. And he said, fine, let's do it. And so today we welcome David George.
David George is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where he leads the firm's growth investing. His team has backed some incredible defining companies of this era, including Databricks, Figma, Stripe, SpaceX, Anduril, and OpenAI. He's now investing behind a new generation of AI startups like Cursor, Harvey, and Abridge, to name a few.
Chapter 4: What is the biggest advantage of staying private longer?
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Chapter 5: What is the #1 investing rule for a16z?
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Chapter 6: How does fear of competition affect investment decisions?
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Chapter 7: Does revenue matter as much in an AI-driven world?
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Chapter 8: Is kingmaking still relevant in venture capital today?
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You have now arrived at your destination. David, dude, I am so excited for this. I've been looking forward to this one for a while, and I feel like I'm extra prepped now. I've just listened to you on Invest Like the Best, so I'm ready to go, dude. Let's do it.
I actually spoke to most of your partners beforehand, and they said to me that I had to start with a show that we did with Everett Randall. Everett Randall said on the show that you cannot look LPs in the face and tell them you'll do a 5X with the fun sizes you have. How do you think about responding to the notion that one can't say to their LPs, you'll do a 5x with large funds?
Well, Harry, it is great to be back with you. I love hanging out with you. So I'm glad we're diving right in. Yeah, as it relates to fund sizes. So our funds consistently beat small, large funds. diversified concentrated venture funds. So our larger funds have outperformed our smaller ones and our larger ones actually have similar multiples of money to our smaller ones across strategies.
So I would start by just saying this, in venture, we have two customers. We've got the LPs and we have the founders. On the LP side, money is going to flow to where the highest returns and best worst reward are. And so I think our fund sizes are a reflection of that. Our best performing fund in the history of the firm is actually a $1 billion fund. So it's a large fund.
In that fund, Databricks has returned 7X the fund so far. Coinbase has returned already DPI 5X of the fund. In that fund, we also had GitHub, DigitalOcean, Lyft, and many other things. To me, you can kind of see it in the data and our returns already. It's about the number of winners you capture. And if the big ones are great, that can really work out.
So I think the idea that large funds can't have great returns is just not true in our experience. So private markets have changed. Tech waves create bigger opportunities. So let me just talk about each. The private markets have grown 10x over 10 years, right? So it's over $5 trillion in market cap now in our market. We actually just looked at the 50 top IPOs from 2017 to 2025.
And if you disaggregate where the dollars of return come from, 47% of the dollars of gain happens between the C and the Series B, and 53% of the dollars of gain happened from Series C plus. I was actually surprised when we looked at this, but there's a tremendous amount of dollars of gain that happened in the later stage. And that's 17 to 25 IPOs.
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