The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Approaching her due date, remembering our daughter & our first marriage conference
04 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What updates do Matt and Abby share about their lives?
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Chapter 2: How are Matt and Abby coping with grief after their loss?
It doesn't get easier. Part of the meaning making for me has been talking about it publicly. This has been very healing for me. Anyone that's sick of hearing about it, like move on. It's not for you. I kind of was still hanging on to like this separate life where I was like still pregnant. We were going to announce her name on her birthday and stuff.
And so now that we've passed that date, like it's okay in my mind. I mean, I don't care if we keep it private. What's up dudes? And welcome back to Unplanned. Here we are again. We're back guys. On the blue couch. And you guys are still here.
Chapter 3: What did Matt and Abby learn at the marriage conference?
Thanks for being here still. We've been doing this for three years. Yes. I can't believe that. And especially thank you to those of you that are choosing to give us a good rating and review. Yeah. Yeah. The people that are still leaving reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and commenting on YouTube. It's still really important.
And like I said on Always Here, if you don't listen to Always Here, which you probably should, it comes out on Friday mornings. So you have plenty of time between Wednesday and Friday to listen to both of them. But what I say is that it doesn't just like benefit Matt and I. There's like a whole team working on putting these shows up. And
They're closely following how these episodes perform, how you guys are perceiving them. So for them to like, I really appreciate you engaging in that way with our content.
Chapter 4: How do Matt and Abby honor their daughter Emerson?
And I'm especially wanting to shout out Hannah Vick today. She gave us five stars, which was so generous. I love this podcast. This is my comfort podcast. Whether I'm working out, getting some work done at home. I love listening to this couple as a young wife. I love hearing the authenticity and realness. Thank you for everyone that left nice reviews. That means a lot. Well, here we are.
Here we are. We're married. We're still married. We're still married. Why are you being so awkward?
Chapter 5: What insights do they share about navigating grief?
I don't know why I'm being awkward. Try that again. Okay. Well, we're married. Why'd you say that? You leave the episode. You take it over. This is what happens when we plan our episodes. Okay. Matt just has to act awkward. Okay, you go. Valentine's Day weekend was recently a weekend. Wow, that feels like a while ago, but it really wasn't that long ago. We went to Nashville for Valentine's Day.
We went for an interview for this show.
Chapter 6: How does the due date of their daughter affect them?
And then also we stayed a little bit later to attend the money and marriage conference with the Ramsey Solutions.
company and we were the youngest people there yeah we probably were yeah i think we were i don't think there were there probably wasn't a couple maybe there wasn't there could have been a couple younger than us they took really good care of us they put us in like the platinum platinum it was nicer than vip they put us in platinum they had amazing snacks for us really good food and drinks they took really good care of us i was a little worried about my attention span
Oh, really? Yeah, I started to get antsy sitting still for so long. Maybe it's because my whole day is I never sit down. Do you understand this? This is the longest I ever sit down in my day is if we're happening to be recording a podcast that day. That's true. My butt is never in a chair that long.
Well, I felt bad because we were really close to the stage and I take notes for everything on my phone. And then I would also get distracted and respond to messages over email or work messages. And then I'm like, I need to be better about like not doing that. I don't know. I feel like we got some good stuff out of it though. Some good takeaways.
Chapter 7: What resources do they recommend for pregnancy loss support?
There's a lot of great teachings that we learned while we were there. Yeah. What was your favorite? I think the one, and this is, I'm kind of stealing this from you, but what I choose to tell my, the story I choose to my, the story that I choose to tell myself is. The story I'm choosing to tell myself is.
Which like anytime you're having a conflict in your marriage, anytime there's anything that's like splitting you apart, you need to acknowledge the story that you're telling yourself, right? Acknowledge the part that you're bringing to the table.
Because oftentimes I think in conflict, it's easy to point fingers at the other person rather than say the story that I'm choosing to tell myself is blank. Well, I think the other thing too – like that's all true and that was a good point you made. But also in – like I think about in our premarital counseling – what?
I think about in our premarital counseling, our counselor told us that the issue is not the issue. Yes. And I feel like it's – that same principle also kind of applies to this where it's like sometimes you could be telling your partner, hey, like get off your phone or things like that. But then it's like – You're not really getting to the deeper issue of why that's bothering you.
Chapter 8: What future plans do Matt and Abby have for their family?
And so this phrase, like this line allows you to go that like step layer deeper right away where it's like the story I'm choosing to tell myself is that you don't care about what I have to say. What? No, I do care about what I have to say. Instead of like get off your phone. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so, yeah, I think that was a good takeaway, a good line.
We need to start practicing that more. Something else that I took away is I downloaded the Together app. Oh, you downloaded the Together app. And I used it on you yesterday. That's John's app, John Deloney. John Deloney, plug. I'm plugging it right now. Thank you, John, for coming on our show. If you haven't seen that episode, it's a good one. It's actually a really great app. I love it so far.
Yeah. And so it gives you a prompt for something to do with your spouse every day. And I did a prompt on you yesterday. Do you know which one I did? You did it at like 10 45 PM though. No, no, no. That wasn't the prompt. No, no, no. That was an additional thing. Oh, this was today. No, it was yesterday. Oh, wait, what did you, what was it? Think. Is there anything that I did that was special?
I can't remember. I was too tired. I was like falling asleep. No, it wasn't at night. I guess it was. I can't remember. I don't know. Tell me. My prompt yesterday was to give you a 30 second hug. And I gave you a 30 second hug. We do hug a lot. So maybe it didn't stand out. Wait. Yeah. I don't remember. When was that? I hugged you right after we put the kids to bed for 30 seconds.
I literally held you and counted. The whole time. Wait, that's so sweet, Abby. I love a task. I thought you, you know, it's really funny now. I'm remembering you hugging me last night and you know how the Disney rule, the rule they make for cast members at Disney is you don't let go first. You didn't move. I didn't even say I was doing it.
I thought you were just like feeling really down because it's been a hard month. And so I just didn't let go because I was like, I'm not going to let go until you let go. You're a good man. You always hold on until I let go. So you're like, man, I didn't know that was like a prompt. So that wasn't you reaching out. I really did need a hug. But once I saw that, I was like, yeah, I want a hug.
So I have another prompt I'm going to do on you tonight. Not in a naughty way at all. It's very good. It's not. It's very clean. It's very clean. Wow. But, you know, speaking of this marriage and money conference we went to, we learned about budgeting and having monthly budget meetings, which I think you were really excited about doing those, right, babe?
okay and i actually was looking ahead our calendar you put it on the calendar but we're gonna be in flagstaff i know with our family so we're certainly not gonna do it we need to adjust it right so if it's not gonna work we have to plan ahead and say hey when can we adjust on you when can we adjust no it's on us right let's figure out the time okay so the budget meeting can't happen while we're in flagstaff what's ironic about this is that i'm not the spender in our relationship
That's not true. We actually agreed on that at the money conference chat that I'm the saver. Okay, I wouldn't even give myself the word saver, but you're more spendy than I am. Do you want to talk about what happened on Saturday? Sure, I'll talk about it. What happened on Saturday, babe? Okay, there is a few caveats to this, I should say. One is thrift stores.
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