Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 47: Matt Rogers
Thu, 05 Dec 2024 03:00:00 -0000
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Chapter 1: What is Therapus?
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch. It's Therapus. He's got you on the hook. He slayed and he shook. It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus.
With me, Jake Shane. Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapa. Sorry I have a little egg on my jeans because I just filmed a skit. Which I've actually realized doing those like improv skits is so... So... So sorry. That is my Hatch Restore breathing alarm. As you guys know, sleep is imperative to my mental health and who I am as a person.
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Chapter 2: How important is sleep for mental health?
your like nighttime and morning routines with like different lights so like you can turn this purple or blue or green and you can have it do ocean sounds or you can have it do a morning rave like I enjoy doing because it really gets me out of bed in the morning or you can do the meditation flute which is what you guys just heard.
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Today's episode with the one and only Matt Rogers, who co-hosts Las Culturistas with Bowen Yang. He is a
hysterical hysterical comedian he's an artist he's released a christmas album he's a podcaster las culturistas he's an actor he was on fire island and he's a comedian and now i think i can call him a friend he this was one of my favorite episodes i've ever filmed he is so exceptional he is so fun to talk to and he's so so funny i'm so excited for you guys to hear this episode
So without further ado, Matt Rogers. Are you Jewish? No, but- You skib Jew. Are you fearful of not being able to be buried in a Jewish cemetery? No, because I want- I give Jew? Yes, major. Oh, I love that. Major. I am not fearful of it. I'm going to be cremated. We got to turn that AC back on.
Really? Are you-
I'm schvitzing, speaking of Jewish. Are you actually? Yes. I'm schvitzing. Okay, guys.
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Chapter 3: Who is Matt Rogers?
Are we rolling? Okay, so I am not fearful of not being able... Like, I was told that as a kid, and once you tell me something like that, I'm never going to forget it. It feels like a scare tactic. You know what I mean? If I get a tattoo, am I going to get bad luck?
But is it actually in... The Torah? The Torah. Did you see me for a second, like, get really nervous that I was going to call it the wrong thing? It's like, have you seen that video of Jimmy, was it Jimmy Kimmel calling RuPaul a drag queen? A drag queen. A drag queen. Where does he come from? SNL?
Jimmy Fallon? Yeah. Very much so. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Excusez-moi. Well, see, that's like, I guess like, see, when I was growing up, Jimmy Fallon was so from SNL. And so now I guess he's like very much from the Tonight Show. No, he's very Tonight Show. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 34. Wow. You look so young. Do I? Yes. You think I look so young and also I give Jewish?
Yes. Yes. You do give Jewish. This is major. I'm learning a lot. What are you, Italian? No. Do you want to guess what I am? I guess you just do. Okay.
Chapter 4: What makes a good comedy podcast?
Is this the episode? Are we going? Yes. Period. Right? Okay. Okay. So you're not Italian. You're not Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. Are you like Irish? I am, but I don't think that's the part you're picking up on. Greek? Okay, get this. So I live my entire life thinking I'm almost 50% Greek. All right?
Because I'm one I'm told. You look Greek.
So this is what I'm told all my life from my grandmother, who, by the way, loved being Greek. Of course. Took us to go see my big fat Greek wedding, the whole thing. I remember. I do the 23andMe. I like spit in the tube, send it in, they come back. Why did you do that? You're not supposed to do that. Well, I did it. Too late. Where were you in my past? I'm Turkish. Full-blooded. I'm Turkish, too.
Really? Yes. You don't give Turkish the way I give Jewish. No, but what do I give? White. And it's okay to say. I'm Russian. Are you Russian? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Is Shane your actual last name? Roscoe. Did they know that you have a stage name? Yeah, everyone. I think like people seem to be pretty jarred by it whenever they find out. But like most people do now. I love that. Jacob Shane Roscoe.
Okay. So you're like, you refused to like do the Nicole Scherzinger route of like, I'm sticking with my heinous last name. Right. They will learn it.
You know, I think that... You love her on, what is it, Off Sunset? Before Sunset? Sunset Boulevard. Wait, we talked about this. Yes, because I swiped up. I swiped up. I'm like... Because I feel like you've posted this like 40 times. Like, you've got to go see it. Okay, get this. I went to the Sunset Boulevard first night, opening night. This is how... Jesus fucking Christ. I know.
How many times have you seen this musical? Okay, literally, I saw it once on the West End. And then I saw it once on opening night on Broadway, and that's it. And how good is she in it?
She's literally phenomenal in it. Like to the point where she was winning the Tony Award, it was not even a question. And then she said on Russell Brand's Instagram, like, where can I get that hat? The make Jesus relevant again hat or whatever the fuck it was. Not that Jesus is irrelevant. No, he's never irrelevant. If Jesus did come back today, huge on TikTok. Huge, huge.
With the tricks he was pulling? Well, because Jesus was like... You know it's true. The OG. The OG. Influencer. OG influencer. He had the biggest following when he had disciples, bitch. Forget about followers. My guy had disciples. And he got canceled and came back from it. There you go.
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Chapter 5: How do personal experiences shape creativity?
You know what I mean? So Nicole, heed your man's warning. Yes. You can do it. Nicole can do it. When's the last time you saw Wicked on Broadway?
Okay, this actually is funny. I saw it a couple years ago, like really close to Christmas. I was, so I usually like my Decembers are like booked up because I do like a Christmas tour. Yeah, you're like Mr. Christmas. I don't know why I thought you were Jewish. I'm Mr. Christmas. Yeah, I know. I sort of have like a whole Christmas thing. But I guess that would be kind of funny, right?
For a comedian to make their brand Christmas and they're Jewish is kind of funny. No, but like I have a Christmas song coming out and it's called Santa Can You Pay For Me I Forgot My Card and I'm Jewish.
I like this though. Right? Well, here's the thing about Christmas. It kind of like is for everyone because they force it to be. That's what I'm saying. That's the whole thing. So I saw a couple of years ago when COVID decided it was like back bitch. Yeah. Remember when COVID went away and then there was, we made it like halfway through the holiday season and it was like, I'm back bitch. Yeah.
How could I forget? How could I forget? Everyone was like, stay inside. I was like, we've just, we just did that. Yes. I believe it was Omicron. Yeah, it was Omicron. Cunty little name. And Omicron took populace in, is that a word?
So Populous, I like it. I don't know if it's a word. See, can I say something to you? And this is going to be, everyone listening to this is going to be very like, I knew exactly this is what this would be because I change my train of thought every like 15 seconds. Oh, okay, I do, yeah. You are my little brother. Did you know that? Oh, Matt, that was so nice.
You are. I'm honored. I watch you and I'm like, that's, I see myself in you. You know from 30 Rock? Of course not. This is where I have to come in with my brotherly shit, though. I know. You have to understand 30 Rock. Well, I did watch 30 Rock as a child. Jenna Maroney looks in a mirror. Who's the blonde one? That's Jane Krakowski, a.k.a. Jenna Maroney. Right, right.
She looks in a mirror, and it's the stupidest joke ever, but I think it's so funny. She just looks in a mirror at herself, and she goes, I see myself in you. And that's it. That's the joke. She sees herself in the mirror. I feel like it's like you had to be there. Right? Not my little brother dragging me. After I just said I see myself in him.
But I've never been so honored. I'm going to talk about that for the next week.
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Chapter 6: What is the relationship between humor and vulnerability?
whatever like I like you know like I like it was scary in the moment but my mom always taught me that like it's so fine so like I was just kind of like oh it's fine I think about the things I used to do on the subway back when I thought like nothing bad was ever gonna happen to me what'd you do just like fully sleep by myself that's crazy like what I would I would so I used to wait tables like
That was my whole gig all throughout my 20s in New York. And I would get on the subway, like, after my shift ended at, like, truly 3.30, 4 in the morning. Where would you wait tables? It was in the financial district. It was, like, way downtown. It was called Ulysses. It was, like, an Irish bar. Irish. Yeah. Well. Almost. I was the only gay waiter. I was a tokenized gay waiter. Yeah.
Do you know I wrote for the second season of The Other Two? You wrote for that season?
Yes. That is one of my favorite shows ever. Thanks. I feel sometimes like, so I wrote for that show and then I didn't end up writing for the third season because other things came up. But sometimes I felt like they were making fun of me in the third season. I was like, I know it. You doubt you were Carrie Dubek.
No, it was just that I remember I got the job writing on the show and they liked that I was also like trying to make it as an actor and like worked my jobs and everything. So they were using you for inspo.
So a lot of times I would pitch real things from my life. Like one time I did like, like they did this whole bit where it was like Carrie and like, it was like Carrie and an ethnic woman playing like, is this food? And it was like, it was always like a white gay guy and an ethnic woman being like, I don't know if a hot dog is a sandwich or not. What do you think?
And it was just like a very like choogy millennial, like back and forth.
Like here's diversity.
And I remember I pitched that and that made it into the show. And then like, as I was watching it, like I was, I remember feeling like, They're just going to drag me to hell for the rest of this show, aren't they? That was at you. Kind of. What about, do you have like a favorite other two episodes?
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Chapter 7: How does the entertainment industry affect mental health?
Shut the fuck up. That was me, babe. The insta-gays? I was like, a gay person had to have written this because this is true. Definitely a bunch of gay people contributed to writing it, and the creators' names are on the episode, but that was mine. That is Instagram gay culture.
Yeah, for sure. No, absolutely. It's crazy. It's like what happens when insta-gays grow up a little bit. They sort of wear matching white tanks with their partner, and they pose barefoot in front of a fireplace. They're like, I'm a Slytherin. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the vibe. Do you ever go to Fire Island, speaking of insta-gays?
I go to Fire Island almost every year. I was in the film Fire Island. Okay, well, I knew that. And we shot it there. It seems like you didn't know that. You go, well, I knew that. It's okay if you didn't know that. What's your favorite real movie on three? One, two, three. Wait. Well, that wasn't part of it. Okay.
I said one, two, three. Okay. Favorite real movie on one, two, three? Can we say it at the same time? Yes. Maybe it's the same. One, two, three. The Devil Wears Prada. That's like really close. Yeah. Okay, should we- I love Devil Wears Prada, though. I love Legally Blonde. Girl.
Girl.
We can watch them back to back and it will be an amazing time. I'm down. Yeah. As fuck. And then, what do you feel about the Devil Wears Prada sequel and the Legally Blonde sequel?
Um, well, there was a Legally, did you ever see Legally Blonde 2, red, white, and blonde? Cause that came out fully and it wasn't that great. Okay. And the devil wears proud a sequel. I guess I am interested, but Anne Hathaway is not going to be in it. What? I don't care then.
It's, you know what the, you know what the storyline is? What? So the storyline is, I guess years and years have passed. And Miranda Priestly is like, like her company is like out of money or something. And so she has to like go to Emily Blunt, who's now like a big fucking deal on her own. Right. And I have to like get money from her or something. And they have to do like a bad bitch team up.
Anne Hathaway nowhere to be found. But that's not Miranda Priestly. She'd quit before that. I don't know what to say. You got to talk to the writers. Why isn't Anne Hathaway in that? She's going to do a stupid cameo and that's going to be it. She probably is going to come in at the end and be like, hey, it's me, Andy. That's me as Anne Hathaway as her character.
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Chapter 8: What are the impacts of social media on self-perception?
Well, you know what I'm saying? It's like that little run of, it's right by that restaurant. Jesus Christ. Oh God. What's it? No. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I got this at American Rag. Oh, it's really cute. Yes. I got this at American Rag. Thank you. Sometimes I can't stop myself. I'll put one thing on. And also, do you have a color that no matter what it is, you'll buy it if you see it? Yes.
My color is a shade of red. Case in point. Well, this was one of the gifts I got today. Oh, period. Right? Mine is blue, even though this is green. This is like a secondary good color to me. Okay, mine is like, yeah, I like a green. I think a red just like, I don't know. Yeah, red is good for you.
Like, I saw this red jacket on someone yesterday, and I was like, if I was looking at that right now, I'd buy it. I mean, you know, I actually have to say deeply thank you for wearing the red, because I'm in the green, you're in the red, and we're Christmas. Sure. Tap. Sure tap. Sure tap. What's your star sign? Pisces. That is why I love you so much. Yeah. What are you? Scorpio.
Scorpio and Pisces. So, you know, my best friend, Bowen, is a Scorpio. He is. He is a Scorpio. Well, what's his rising and his moon? So, hmm, that actually, I have to get clarification on that, but. Do you know yours? Yes. I'm Pisces, Pisces rising, Cancer moon. Like I'm like deeply- Do you cry a lot? All the time. You know why? I cried this morning. No.
Yeah. I was in the, I was literally, I was, so I have my tour coming up. So I've been working with a vocal coach. Congratulations. Thank you. And I got three lines into one of my songs and I started crying. No.
Yeah. I was like, wait, what?
And it's like a comedy song. And I was like, but I just like, was like feeling the melody and like- Oh, like- I was like, wait, hold on. And then I did that stupid fucking actor thing of like, stop everything. I have to honor this emotion. Oh, my God. Welcome to Hollywood, Jake Rushker. No. Can you handle mean people? No. Neither can I. I don't like it. It hurts my feelings a lot.
Well, mine are, like, you can call me ugly, you can call me fat, you can call me whatever. You can't call me those things. Oh, my God. You can call me whatever the fuck you want to call me when it comes to my looks. I literally, I mean, like, it'll hurt my feelings, but, like, I don't give a fuck because, like, at the end of the day, I am doing better than you. There you go.
That's actually a huge thing. Do you know what I mean? When you insult my character... You're like a real housewife. If you insult my character, you owe me an apology. No, but that's because I've said whatever you're saying about me and my character, I've said to myself already, so I believe it's true now.
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