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Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 66: Lucy Dacus

Thu, 10 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is Lucy Dacus and what is her new album about?

277.824 - 280.485 Lucy Dacus

My life leading to the song or him being on it?

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280.939 - 285.703 Jake Shane

You know, I realized I didn't get into specifics with that question. Well, I'll tell you everything.

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285.863 - 302.176 Lucy Dacus

Yeah. I actually, yeah, I wrote it about basically when you get to the end of a relationship and you're like, everything's great about you. It's just not happening anymore. Like, and I thought it'd be great if two people shared that sentiment instead of one person being like, and bye.

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Chapter 2: How did Lucy Dacus create and produce her album Forever is a Feeling?

302.196 - 322.96 Lucy Dacus

It's like more powerful if both people can be like, I appreciate everything we were able to give each other and we're walking away. And Hosier is just the best. His voice is so good. His songwriting is so good. I feel like he's under he's like selling out huge shows. And yet I find he's underrated.

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322.98 - 345.531 Jake Shane

He's so underrated. He's kind of underrated. He's so underrated. Yeah. There's this line on that song that I love where you talk about you're moving out and you're looking through old stuff and you find your partner's old things and you can't figure out if you should view them as like a gift or like something that you should get rid of. It hurts. Yeah. I've never had that feeling, but I am sure.

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Chapter 3: What is the story behind the collaboration with Hozier on Bullseye?

345.751 - 347.372 Jake Shane

Congrats. Thank you.

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347.392 - 350.133 Lucy Dacus

If it comes around, then you'll know.

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350.413 - 354.555 Jake Shane

Did you guys record that song in studio together? Did you like send him an open verse?

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354.575 - 357.496 Lucy Dacus

We did not. I wrote it. So I sang the whole thing myself.

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357.836 - 357.956 Jake Shane

Oh, wow.

358.036 - 367.22 Lucy Dacus

Sent it to him. He liked it. And then he basically just sang on top of mine and then added all these beautiful harmonies. And he was just in Ireland, you know.

367.48 - 368.861 Jake Shane

Being hosier. Yeah. Yeah.

369.361 - 384.76 Lucy Dacus

yeah far away so yeah i wish we had done it in person we were trying for that and then it didn't work out i'm sure you guys will perform it in person oh i hope so there's no plans right now but there's of course a heart and intention towards that of course yeah are you planning on touring the album

385.376 - 412.535 Lucy Dacus

yeah i'm so excited i'm so excited too actually it's like we're doing press and having little songs come out and people aren't hearing it and it's all digital and the shows are actually the thing right of course like that's like the reason to live right for me do you have like a favorite show you've ever performed Boy Genius at Gunnersbury Park in London. We had like fireworks and Moona opened.

Chapter 4: What are Lucy’s favorite songs on the album and the meanings behind them?

450.376 - 456.502 Jake Shane

such sadness because I feel like it doesn't feel like you thought it would feel like what it would feel like. Do you know what I mean?

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456.522 - 462.327 Lucy Dacus

I would say often. And then I hope for you some moments that are like, this is as good as I thought it would be.

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462.607 - 481.629 Jake Shane

I think I just need to overcome. like I feel I have such bad anxiety so like if I can push through that and like feel it but there's like yeah there's moments like when I toured the show for the first time I felt that a lot when I would like come out on stage I got my first standing ovation so that's when I was like

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Chapter 5: How does Lucy Dacus approach songwriting and music production?

482.289 - 509.23 Lucy Dacus

uh that was like that was yeah that was my real i made it moment yeah what was your like i made it moment what's interesting is i never um wanted any of this so i never like dreamed about it that much that's like a weird thing to say i want it now i love it but I was in school for photography and film and then just working in Richmond at a photo lab and kind of just enjoying my life.

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509.25 - 521.837 Lucy Dacus

My rent was $190. I was skating. It was okay. Right. I was so present and I'm like, I had goals generally to like live a life I could be proud of.

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521.897 - 522.177 Jake Shane

Yeah.

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522.697 - 548.583 Lucy Dacus

But wasn't working towards like, and I'm going to achieve this. Like I had like short term goals of like in three months I want to have finished a music video to show my friends or like, um, just like more personally oriented goals. And then this just kind of like started to pay my bills and I was like, okay, I'll get on this. And I'm still riding.

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550.504 - 565.554 Lucy Dacus

So I guess your original question is like, when did you feel like you made it? I don't even know what it is. Right. While I'm making it. Yeah. Which is kind of fun because that means it could change and I won't be disappointed. Hopefully. It's a really good outlook.

565.914 - 575.881 Jake Shane

Yeah. You said you never like wanted any of this. But then so were you just like making music kind of for yourself and like putting it out? And did something just click and work?

576.221 - 585.277 Lucy Dacus

Yeah, kind of for myself and then to participate in like my hometown's music scene. Like my friends made music and I was just like, cool, that's what we do.

585.597 - 587.641 Jake Shane

And are you still close with all your friends from your hometown?

588.137 - 605.264 Lucy Dacus

I mean, not all because like things happen. And also I was just talking to my friend like I don't like really get to be the person that I want to be while I do music because I'm so disparate, which means I get to like have a lot of cool relationships that all stay a little more shallow.

Chapter 6: What challenges and joys does Lucy experience when touring?

614.715 - 614.996 Jake Shane

Right.

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615.276 - 637.023 Lucy Dacus

But kind of, like, the community-oriented, like, staying really in touch with... What people are doing and what you can be doing for them and like, kind of like passive time instead of active time. Yeah. It's harder to come by when you're moving around so much. So I'm wondering if there'll be a part of life where I'm a lot more still.

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637.603 - 655.83 Jake Shane

I think there definitely will be. And I feel like it's like, Do you ever feel like in the parts where you're still, you're in for the parts that are like you're moving. And then when you're moving, you're like, wait, I want to be still. Never satisfied, of course. Right? Yeah. Actually, Phoebe has this lyric in I Know The End where she says, I romanticize a quiet life.

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655.85 - 666.154 Jake Shane

There's no place like my room. And I was, not to be so dramatic, but I would listen to that on tour all the time. Because I was like, I know all I want is my room. But then the second I get back to my room.

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666.174 - 666.854 Lucy Dacus

You're like, what's next?

666.994 - 667.355 Jake Shane

What's next?

667.375 - 671.277 Lucy Dacus

Yeah. Yeah. It's good to romanticize your own life, I think.

671.638 - 672.859 Jake Shane

Do you romanticize your own life?

Chapter 7: How does Lucy reflect on personal growth, grief, and gratitude?

Chapter 8: What are Lucy Dacus’s views on astrology and personal life insights?

606.505 - 614.435 Lucy Dacus

I don't know, like, I don't know how much you travel. Like, you just travel so much that, like, you can connect with people deeply just if two people are willing.

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614.715 - 614.996 Jake Shane

Right.

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615.276 - 637.023 Lucy Dacus

But kind of, like, the community-oriented, like, staying really in touch with... What people are doing and what you can be doing for them and like, kind of like passive time instead of active time. Yeah. It's harder to come by when you're moving around so much. So I'm wondering if there'll be a part of life where I'm a lot more still.

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637.603 - 655.83 Jake Shane

I think there definitely will be. And I feel like it's like, Do you ever feel like in the parts where you're still, you're in for the parts that are like you're moving. And then when you're moving, you're like, wait, I want to be still. Never satisfied, of course. Right? Yeah. Actually, Phoebe has this lyric in I Know The End where she says, I romanticize a quiet life.

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655.85 - 666.154 Jake Shane

There's no place like my room. And I was, not to be so dramatic, but I would listen to that on tour all the time. Because I was like, I know all I want is my room. But then the second I get back to my room.

666.174 - 666.854 Lucy Dacus

You're like, what's next?

666.994 - 667.355 Jake Shane

What's next?

667.375 - 671.277 Lucy Dacus

Yeah. Yeah. It's good to romanticize your own life, I think.

671.638 - 672.859 Jake Shane

Do you romanticize your own life?

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