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Chapter 1: What are the recent immigration policies at Guantanamo Bay?
President Trump promised to send 30,000 migrants to Guantanamo Bay, and his administration is now doing it. Here's Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem on CNN this weekend after making a trip herself to Gitmo.
These individuals are the worst of the worst that we pulled off of our streets. Who are they? Murderers, rapists. When I was there, I was able to watch one of the flights landing and them unload about 15 different of these criminals. Those were mainly child pedophiles, those that were out there trafficking children, trafficking drugs, and were pulled off of our streets.
Now, it's impossible to fact check that statement at the moment because the government hasn't released the names of four dozen or so men who've been sent there so far. Coming up on Today Explained, what we do know about Trump's big moves on immigration.
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Chapter 2: Who are the migrants being sent to Guantanamo Bay?
and carry out what the president sees, I think, as one of his biggest, if not most important campaign promise.
All right. So President Trump has directed that migrants be sent to Guantanamo Bay. What did his order say exactly? What are the specifics here?
Well, the order is basically to the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. And it says, you know, use the Guantanamo Bay facility to expand holding capacity for dangerous criminals, but then also for whatever purposes you see fit. And that's kind of the key here. They seem to be looking at it both as a place where they can
They can send in particular, you know, Venezuelan suspected gang members who they have a hard time detaining and who have been really a focus of a lot of the government's, the Trump administration's messaging around the, you know, worst of the worst criminals.
Well, some of them are so bad, we don't even trust the countries to hold them because we don't want them coming back. So we're going to send them out to Guantanamo. But then they also are looking for capacity. This will double our capacity immediately, right? And tough.
That's a tough place to get out of. They do not have the space in the United States and their existing network of facilities to suddenly increase by thousands and thousands of people. And so that's going to be, you know, that's the thing I'm really looking for.
Do they plan to really bring, you know, up to 30,000 people, as President Trump said, to this site off, you know, outside the United States?
Is it accurate that we don't have facilities inside the continental United States for that many people? What do you know about that?
Well, it's not quite accurate in that sense. So ICE is funded to be able to detain about 40,000 people at any given time in its network of detention facilities. And those consist of mostly privately run jails, but then also county jails that rent jails. you know, beds out to ICE for relatively short-term detentions.
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