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Today, Explained

Tariffs hit like a Mack truck

30 Apr 2025

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Workers at a Mack truck plant in Pennsylvania hoped tariffs would help protect their jobs. Now they are facing layoffs — and corporate is citing tariffs as the reason. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Dan Hand has worked at Mack Truck's Lehigh Valley plant for nearly three decades. Photo by Miles Bryan for Vox. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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2.349 - 6.848 Noel King

The American economy is starting to shake under the weight of President Trump's tariff chaos.

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7.338 - 13.263 John Tanizer

So your answer to the concern about the tariffs is everything's going to be hunky-dory? Everything's going to be just fine.

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13.463 - 20.989 Noel King

And it's not just the stock market anymore. The national economy, we learned today, shrank in the first quarter of this year. Down three-tenths of a percent.

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21.189 - 23.611 Economist/Analyst (unnamed)

We haven't had a negative number since first quarter of 22.

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24.692 - 36.541 Noel King

If it shrinks in the second, that's the dictionary definition of a recession, folks. Chinese exports to the U.S. are plunging. Keep your third eye open for shortages. And around the country, tariff layoffs are underway.

36.701 - 43.147 News Reporter

Major layoffs for UPS. By next month, 20,000 workers will lose their job, and that's on top of several facilities set to close.

43.527 - 54.458 Noel King

All of this, says the press, to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., except, as we're going to hear, the tariff layoffs are hitting manufacturing now, too. Coming up on Today Explained, we take a trip.

55.178 - 56.7 Unknown Speaker

Everything's going to be just fine.

61.129 - 82.476 Megan Rapinoe

Megan Rapinoe here. This week on A Touch More, we are launching our much-anticipated book club, and we're doing it with Abby Wambach and Glennon Doyle, who will introduce their upcoming book, We Can Do Hard Things, Answers to Life's 20 Questions. Plus, we've got some fun and important updates from The W and the NWSL, and of course, we've got a new Are You a Megan or Are You a Sue?

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