There’s a brand-new category coming to the Academy Awards: Best Stunt Design. A writer and two stunt performers explain why it took almost a century. This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Jolie Myers with help from Amina Al-Sadi, fact checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. On the set of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Photo by Warner Bros. Pictures/Sunset Boulevard/Corbis via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the new Oscar category being introduced?
The Oscars are so last month, and yet they're still making news. This week, a new rule. Members gotta watch the movies before they vote. Big yikes. But earlier this month, a new category, best stunt design.
It's almost like an issue of justice, kind of like justice for stunts, like for the work that they do and the fact that they don't really get credited the way that a lot of other people in the film industry do with Oscars and industry awards and things like that.
But for me, as a film critic and a cinephile and also someone who's studied film history, the stunt people were here before the movie stars were. Like, stunts built Hollywood. And the idea that over the years they never quite got their due just seemed to be such a miscarriage of justice.
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Bilga Abiri says an Oscar for stunt design is justice for all those stunt people who never got their due. We asked him who the first stunt people in Hollywood were.
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Chapter 2: Why have stunt performers historically been overlooked by the Oscars?
I mean, there's a whole history of why the Oscars came about, but part of it was for the film industry to really make a case for itself as an art form because censorship was starting to come in and they wanted to make the case, well, we're actually doing great art and here we're going to show that by giving awards to ourselves for the best picture and the best director and best actor and that sort of thing.
And when they came up with a list of who would get an Oscar, was there a reason that they bypassed stunt people?
The only reason was that they didn't think of stunt people as being all that important. I mean, this is back when stunt people were barely getting paid. They had zero industry protections. There would be reports of how many stunt people had died in that given year. I mean, people were dying making these movies.
They had to sign these things that colloquially called bloodsheets, which were these contracts saying that they weren't going to sue if they were maimed or killed on shoots and things like that. And this is what I mean also when I say they were largely anonymous too. They were not generally seen as… In most cases, people didn't even know what their names were.
So, you know, why even bother to give them awards?
When does it start to feel strange or unjust to people that there is no category for stunt work?
The real movement for it begins in 1991. A legendary stunt coordinator named Jack Gill is working with the director Sidney Lumet on the film A Stranger Among Us. And it's Sidney Lumet who actually says to him, Why isn't there an Oscar for stunts? So Jack Gill enters the Academy and, you know, he begins to advocate for a stunt Oscar.
We feel like we're being left out. We feel like there's a big hole in the academy and we should be included in it. It should be a no-brainer decision that happens overnight.
And the thing he always said was, you know, at first they seemed really open to the idea, but over the years, you know, he found more and more doors just shut in his face. And towards the end, he said, they won't even meet with me anymore. This was in 2019. How come? He didn't know. He did not know why they had stopped meeting with him.
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