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Today, Explained

Trump v. Mangione

17 Apr 2025

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The Trump administration is seeking the death penalty for Luigi Mangione, who is scheduled back in court this week. Plus, a closer look at a work that may have inspired Mangione (the Unabomber’s manifesto). This episode was produced by Hady Mawajdeh, edited by Jolie Myers, fact checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Luigi Mangione appearing at a February hearing for the murder of UHC CEO Brian Thompson. Photo by Curtis Means - Pool/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.612 - 5.994 Sean Rameswaram

Luigi Mangione is supposed to be back in court on Friday, and court looks different when Luigi shows up.

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8.814 - 19.017 Samantha Max

The last time that I was in court with him, there were so many members of the public that wanted to be inside the courtroom, and so many of them were young women.

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19.517 - 21.218 Sean Rameswaram

Mangione has a fan club.

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21.789 - 37.317 Samantha Max

People outside with signs, people inside lining up. I mean, sometimes for a really long time to just want to get into the courtroom to see him. It's just a different experience than the people that you are typically seeing.

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41.015 - 57.948 Sean Rameswaram

What'll be different this week is that it'd be the first time Mangione appeared since the federal government, the Justice Department, Pam Bondi, Donald Trump have said they would like to seek the death penalty in this case. We're gonna ask how that's gonna go over in New York on Today Explained.

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