Today with David McCullagh
From drones to elite coaching, how did schools rugby get so advanced?
08 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What advancements have been made in schools rugby?
Schools rugby, a subject of satire in the world of Rosso Carol Kelly, is no laughing matter for many of those involved. It's one of the most important pathways into the professional game in Ireland and it's becoming increasingly sophisticated. In some schools, students are using performance tracking technology, following tailored nutrition plans, working with strength and conditioning coaches.
Some have their own sports psychologist. So what does all of this mean for the teenagers playing the game? to discuss this I'm joined by former Irish Ireland internationals Bernard Jackman and Rhys Ruddock you're both very welcome thanks a million for coming in Bernard for people who may not have been to a school's rugby game either ever or recently How much has it changed?
The standard is getting higher and higher. I'm lucky enough I've worked on TV. A lot of games are live on TV or have been on Premier Sport for the last couple of years. Last year they were streamed by Leinster TV and the quality is phenomenal.
The coaching, the backroom teams are often populated with very promising coaches who have huge roots ahead of them or coaches who have already achieved a lot in the game.
Chapter 2: How is technology impacting player performance in schools rugby?
And they're very happy now to be installed as directors of rugby of those schools. And then the fans, you know, both sets of schools, all the pupils will go, a lot of past pupils and a lot of parents and friends. And it's a big day out. It's knockout rugby, which, you know, element of excitement to that. It's an open draw each round. And, yeah, it's where memories are made and the hype around it.
This year went to a replay. The first final was in Talla and incredible, incredible quality.
And the technology and the amount of effort put into it is just unrecognisable.
Yeah, Rhys probably is better than that because he's coaching day to day in it.
Yeah. I mean, is there anything like when you were going through it?
Well, I didn't actually play schools rugby in Ireland, so I went to secondary school in Wales and then England. And I think from my recollection of what I experienced in the UK, it wasn't quite as sophisticated.
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Chapter 3: What role do nutrition and training play in a young athlete's development?
A very good level of rugby, but certainly in Ireland at the moment anyway, as the professional game takes strides in terms of technology and all those things, inevitably the schools rugby is kind of a little bit behind, but following that trajectory as well.
And how important is technology in this?
For coaches, probably a lot. Me and Birna were just talking about outside sometimes, even just for coaches to feel like they've done their job. You need to see all the video, the angles, and present meetings and things like that. But I think for the kids, it definitely helps them to learn and progress, being able to watch games back and review their own performances, et cetera.
So it's definitely a big part, but they're out on the field four or five times a week training and working together. Yeah.
Yeah, which would always have been the case, putting the effort in at that level. And that pays off when the game comes.
Absolutely, yeah. I'd say going back to my time in school, the difference now is, I think we always did a lot of pitch sessions, but it's the gym before school or during lunchtime. It's the ability to have an app on your phone where you can watch your clips, have feedback, give feedback back to coaches, them to give feedback to you.
The detail around nutrition and getting the right amount of calories in and the right mix of protein, carbs and fats. the access to maybe to a sports psychologist they're the add-ons that I think weren't there in the past
Okay. And the likes of GPS trackers and everything, which obviously the professional teams would use, that's becoming a part of it.
Well, I know some schools who have bought the X. So there's obviously a new model, new technology coming on. So it's like buying a second hand car. I know schools who have X pro teams GPS. And what does the GPS tell you? It just measures overall load. So how hard a training session was. how many meters around, the speed of meters, the accelerations, decelerations.
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Chapter 4: How has the coaching landscape evolved in schools rugby?
So their demands are going to be huge in terms of the amount of food they're going to need to eat to allow them to perform.
Does that crossover between different sports, does that help?
I think so, yeah, massively for a number of reasons. But there's certain sports that probably are more transferable. Everyone always talks about Ireland and the GAA influence, the ability to, I suppose, that spatial awareness is a big one, but also fielding high balls. Rob Carney's famous for his GAA links and his ability to field a high ball.
So certain sports more so, but I think the more sports people can play at a young age,
just learning how to move your body and like I say spatial awareness all those things and it also teaches you what you like yeah and I think it's choice and I hate hearing coaches in rugby schools or GA or soccer who try and stop athletes playing other sports I think the longer they can play multiple sports the better and let them choose themselves
OK, we're talking about a level of sophistication which doesn't come cheap. Why do schools put so much effort into it and presumably resources?
I think it has a status symbol. There's a status to it if you're a good rugby school, if you're producing teams that can win schools' cups, if you're producing players who go into the pathway, the Leinster Academy or the Munster Academy, etc. I think there's an element to that. I would say...
some parents potentially make a decision around where they send their kids based on the quality of the rugby programme. So I think once two or three schools are investing in that and have a detailed and sophisticated rugby programme, others have to catch up or you're going to get left behind. And I think that's what's happened. I think...
The level of competition in the Leinster schools in particular, which we both know best, has never been as high. There's brilliant coaches, there's brilliant rugby programmes. And if you can't invest in that, you're left behind. So it's a mixture between sponsorship fees, some parents giving a few bob, I think, extra to have the level of support that their kids need. And it's a thriving industry.
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