Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everybody, and welcome to this very special live stream. We are going to be doing something the mainstream media, for some inexplicable reason, is failing to do, which is talk about events in Iran. And there's literally no one we could think of who's better to talk about this than Maya Tusi, former guest of Trigonometry, Iranian himself. He has family in the country.
Maya, without wasting any more time, our time is precious here. What has been going on in Iran for the last 12 days?
Chapter 2: What sparked the recent protests in Iran?
Yeah, well, thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, 12 days now. In case people haven't seen, because the Western global media are not really reporting any of this, there was initially a protest on the first day, which was triggered by everything that's been going on economically and everything else. But this has been boiling up and building up.
The people have been waiting for an opportunity for an uprising against the Islamic Republic. something that has been good. We've seen waves every few years in Iran, but the regime have been very good at doing crackdown. And this time they have been falling apart, the regime, 12 days in a row, 12 battles. And the Iranian people have been having taken control of over 100 cities around the country.
And I think that's partly one of the reasons they've been struggling, because usually these protests or uprisings have been in one or two main cities. So they've been uprising. Obviously, it's been chaos. But It's still going on, and President Trump has been warning the regime, if you start killing many people, then of course the United States will have to intervene.
So we'll have to see what's going on. And what is happening so far in terms of the brutality of the attempts to crack down? I know that we've seen some footage of people being taken to hospital. Is the regime killing people at this point? Where are we? So the official numbers from the regime themselves over the last, well, the first 11 days was about 40. But the numbers could be higher.
But at the same time, it could actually be as low as that, which could mean that they've been terrified of what President Trump has said, compared to previous crackdowns where you see hundreds getting killed in a couple of days. But people have had full control. Obviously, people are mostly unarmed.
uh the the regime security forces are armed and uh but they every evidence videos that we are getting is the shows people chasing the regime security away we have had a number of defections from the police some from the irgc passage units that they filmed themselves but i think there's a lot going on internally that is paralyzing the regime behind the scenes
and they have struggled and as of right now we're doing this live over the last hour the regime have officially withdrawn their security forces and the police and they have officially declared war they have brought in the IRGC military the actual military that would go to fight in other countries they are now on the ground and there are some videos that we will be showing on TUC TV later it's also on social media
very very worrying updates coming in about shootings on the ground and obviously tonight is huge because the crown prince of Iran Reza Pahlavi is the main opposition leader and people are calling his name and the return of the monarchy and everything else He said to people, come out tonight at 8 p.m. local time, which was about two, three hours ago. Everybody united and start chanting.
So we had millions around the country. And if the military have started killing people, as we've seen, things are going to get very bad tonight. And everybody is now looking at President Trump. I mean, it was a really brilliant summation there, Maya, because President Trump has been hypercritical of the Iranian regime and their handling of this particular crisis.
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Chapter 3: How has the Iranian regime responded to the protests?
Obviously, there are a lot of Iranians who will tell you what they've already been killing. because they've killed about 30, 40, maybe more. But I observe it in a different way because if a president of the United States is about to say something like this, he doesn't mean, I know it sounds bad, but he doesn't mean if you kill 20, 30 people.
He means if you start basically in a very uncontrollable way, start killing hundreds. which I believe tonight might be that night, unfortunately. But in terms of actions, right now, I don't know how we can see an action directly because there are millions of people on the streets. Not that the U.S. is going to hit residential areas. They're not Russia. But the two things that can be done...
Chapter 4: What is the current situation regarding casualties and arrests?
whether it's a partnership between the Mossad side and the US to go and hunt down the leadership. And they also have some people who have allegedly defected from the top of the regime quietly and privately. They could do that or they could just hit the main bases, the main government buildings and the main IRGC bases and destroy them. I think that would just put pressure.
All you need is just put pressure for their leadership to start fleeing the country, basically. Even though the Iranian people don't want that to happen. They want to capture the leadership. But by doing that, you could just force them out to Moscow. I guess what I'm wondering, though, is given that for the regime to leave at this point is completely existential.
I mean, the leaders of the regime will likely, if they leave power, be prosecuted for their many crimes against the people of Iran, etc. Is there not a risk that effectively they really have no way out other than to continue to suppress and crack down on the protests?
But I would have said that in 2022, 2019, 2017, and even the first couple of days of this, because I thought they're going to start doing a crackdown and at least have a level playing field. At this point, I don't know how they can actually stay or temporarily win because President Trump has gone all out. So it's gone too deep now.
If, for example, there's a massacre tonight and tomorrow everyone's going to President Trump saying, you know, you promised that you're going to do something. going to have to do something. And President Trump doesn't like to lose. If he does something, he's going to have to do it all completely fully. But they're going to have to go.
But we did receive some update from the French media that the families of the IRGC have started seeking asylum to France, because they will be considered as civilians, I guess. But the actual people responsible, the leadership, They can't go to any country that the future Iran could ask for extradition. So they could probably go to Moscow. But there are not many places left.
They can't go to Venezuela, really, because that's still on the brink. And they can't go to Lebanon. So the only place is also Russia. But Russia is also in a very weird situation, as you know, because of the negotiations with Ukraine. So I don't know. As you said, nowhere is safe for them.
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Chapter 5: How are the protests different from previous uprisings in Iran?
They can't go to Qatar either because President Trump is keeping the Qataris close. So the only way is for them to get captured. But if not, then they're going to continue this, basically turn this into a long-term civil war until somebody wins.
Well, very much with that in mind, you mentioned that tonight was a big moment, potentially the risk of lots of violence by the regime cracking down on millions of people who are now going out into the streets. Given that we're doing this live, what can you tell us? I know you have family still in Iran. What can you tell us about what's actually happening on the ground tonight?
I know that the internet's been cut off, the phone lines have been cut off. So what do we know? So, as I said, tonight was the first night that the Crown Prince gave direct instructions. He said, 8 p.m., wherever you are, basically, start chanting. And so far, 11 days that we've had, people have been out. More cities have been coming out. Smaller groups in every city.
So a few thousand people, tens of thousands of people in every city and town and village. So obviously, technically, if you put them all together to come to the capital, it will be millions. But they've been spread around. But tonight...
Before we got the update, which was about an hour ago, that they have withdrawn the police and the security forces and they brought in the IRGC military, every footage that we've been getting from Tehran to other smaller cities, they are hundreds and hundreds of thousands out because everybody got re-energized, everybody got motivated.
They believe that President Trump is behind them and the Crown Prince gave them instruction. and they want to show loyalty, so they came out. They've been sending thank you messages to President Trump over the last few days. Some people changed their street names temporarily to Trump Streets. So basically, the morale has been high until now, but as we speak,
i can't tell you what the morale is like because uh we're not getting any more updates some people obviously have access to starlink thanks to elon musk and so there are still videos coming out and the videos that we are getting is worrying because all we hear is just gunfire massive and uh but they are still out so the the main issue about tonight is more people are out than ever before especially the last 11 days 12 days but that could also mean
a lot more people could unfortunately get killed, which could provoke President Trump to act quicker because they have been mobilizing their troops in the Middle East over the last couple of days. I don't think people can concede defeat now because they've gone too deep as well. They're going to have to stay out. And it's their country, it's their fight, obviously.
But it could get very, very robust in the next few hours. And tomorrow morning is going to be crucial, obviously, if they're going to come out again, which I think... How confident are you that this is all for a good cause? And I'll explain what I mean, because obviously the protesters are chanting for Reza Pahlavi. He is one of the people who's encouraging this to be happening.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Crown Prince's involvement?
Francis, try reconnecting then. We'll carry on. So one of the things obviously is the regional situation. Saudi Arabia, the UAE and also Israel are all sworn enemies of the Islamic regime in Iran. They are all very concerned about the direction it's been taking in recent years, their support for terrorism in the region.
These countries, historically speaking, have been natural, not Israel, but the Sunni and Shia divide is obviously very strong. Is there a role, do you think, here for Gulf countries and Israel as well, in addition to President Trump and the United States? Oh, in terms of action? Well...
I don't think that will be necessary, but there is an opportunity here because, firstly, the Israelis, until now, until like last year, for the past four decades, five decades, they never admitted any involvement on the ground. They never said, oh, yeah, of course, we've got Mossad doing things. But over the last year, they've been actually boasting about it. They've been bragging.
Yeah, we've got over 100 Mossad operators. They were doing this. We were watching everything. And they've been quite open about it now. Everybody knew that Mossad had always been obviously doing disruptions in Iran over the last few decades. But the main thing here is that Saudi Arabia, for example, is a huge rival or enemy to the Islamic Republic.
But they don't want to be seen as that sort of superpower in the region. They have been taking a different approach. They never want to be directly involved in any war apart from Yemen. But that's also so indirect, even though they're basically hitting the IRGC proxies, they never release any statement against the Islamic Republic. It's a very cold, cold war between those two.
Israel is the only one that is more kind of outspoken mostly because since 1979 the islamic republic declared war on israel saying uh you know we have a bit of a problem with you we just need to wipe you off the map that's that i mean it's a tiny difference obviously in terms of opinions between the iranian regime and israel wiping off
uh so um i don't think there's any need for any sort of uh coalition involvement in that sense because i think uh israelis if they do anything um that's that will be considered as a self-defense because they're in constant war with iran anyway and the americans well that's the american empire it's the world police whether you like it or not and people would say oh boys
Is America always involved? Well, somebody has to be. If it's not America, it's going to be China. And the Americans have bases there. They have interests in the Middle East. And President Trump, at least, one credit to him is that, unlike other presidents, he's open about the fact that he's basically the king of the world. He basically, he will be honest. I'm going to go in there.
I'm going to take the oil as well. Or I'm going to stop businesses there. I'm going to do this. I'm going to take over temporarily. So that's actually quite refreshing rather than like people who say, oh, yeah, we want to be friends with the whole world. We just have to invade that country for humanitarian reasons. Like, just be honest.
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