A Nesting Doll Of Failures | Unfiltered

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Truth in the Barrel with Amy McGrath 32 min 1 speaker 8 chapters transcribed 6 hours ago
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Why does Amy claim we might already be at war with Iran?

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Amy McGrath 0:34
Last week I wrote a piece on Substack called Pete Heg Seth Fails at the Big Things. And I want to talk about it here because I think there's a larger point that gets lost in all of the noise surrounding PTEC Seth. And there is a lot of noise with this guy, right? More than 20 years ago, I climbed into the cockpit of an F-18 and I went to war in Iraq. And I had doubts about that war. Um, lots of of guys in my squadron had doubts about that war. Uh we we trusted the people. At the top, we we trusted the politicians less than um a guy like Colin Powell. But we really trusted him because he had served in Vietnam, he had been chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, he'd he was secretary of state. So when Colin Powell made the case for Iraq.
Amy McGrath 1:22
uh made the case that that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. That mattered to me and it mattered to a lot of us in uniform. We believed him. Now the intelligence turned out to be wrong. And I've thought about that a lot over the years because it taught me something about national security leadership. And that is credibility really matters and judgment matters and integrity matters. Because when you are talking about war. The mistakes made at the top are almost always paid for by the people way down. In the chain of command the the twenty year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. The young army lieutenant. A pilot climbing into the cockpit and their families. And that's really the lens through which I have always looked at a guy like Pete Hegseth.
Amy McGrath 2:18
Becoming secretary of defense. His nomination at the very beginning worried me. And yeah, uh he was so inexperienced for the job and lots of people talked about that. He did serve honorably. He he deployed. He left uh the Army National Guard as a major. Which really means he never commanded a large military organization. He was never in the regular army. He never operated at anywhere close to the strategic level. A level required to run the entire Department of Defense. But here's the thing, I actually thought that he could muddle through. I thought that the Department of Defense, when he was nominated, I was very worried, but I thought that the department could muddle through the inexperienced part. It's a massive bureaucracy.
Amy McGrath 3:14
There's incredibly competent people in the building of the Pentagon and in the the broader Department of Defense, career civilians, generals and admirals, um, men and women who had 30 years experience in the military. What worried me was the combination though with Pete Hiksa, a combination of inexperience. And arrogance. and ideology. and poor judgment. and real questions about his integrity. And that matters. You put all of that together. in the person that is supposed to be helping the president make decisions on war and peace. That is dangerous. And now we are seeing why. probably the single most important thing. Pete Hagseth needed to do as Secretary of Defense. Was to help make sure. That the country didn't make a huge strategic blunder.
Amy McGrath 4:20
That if we went to war We had a clear, achievable political objective. That's what a Secretary of Defense does, folks. That's the most important thing a secretary of defense does. It's it's not pulling the trigger. It's not even winning the war. It's making sure if we go to war we have an achievable political objective. So what is the objective in this war that he wanted us to get into?

How did the Iraq war experience shape Amy’s view on leadership credibility?

Amy McGrath 4:50
Seriously. What what is the objective in Iran? Is it to s destroy the nuclear program? Is it regime change? Is it now to reopen the Strait of Hormuz? Is it to force Iran into some kind of negotiated settlement? What does winning actually look like. Because Pete Heggseth said back in April we won.

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