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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is Two Blokes Talking Electric Cars with Stephen Fenwick and Trevor Long. Thanks to NRMA Insurance and Uniden. We appreciate their support. NRMA Insurance, helping Australians protect what matters most for 100 years, and they'll be doing it for a long time to come, no doubt.
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G'day, Leo.
Hello, hello.
Mate, where are you at in your world of electric cars? You're an owner or a buyer?
Yes, I'm owner again. So I've had three electric cars, all Teslas. Oh, okay. Fanboy. Yeah. Started with a Model 3 Standard Range in 2019. Yep. It was, I think, one of the first batch of the car delivered in Australia. Mm-hmm. Then done three years and about 80,000 kilometers. Back then the warranty was 80,000. So I thought it's probably it's time to upgrade and sell. So I sold it.
Back then the price were pretty good on the secondhand market because the limited supply. So I upgraded to a long-range Model 3. Nice. In 2022. Nice. Yeah, dual motor, nice car. Had it for a year, then sold it. Oh. And went to petrol. What?
Whoa, whoa. Hang on a minute. So you've had two electric cars, you had two Teslas. Yes. And then you went back to petrol. Leo, explain. What happened?
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Chapter 2: What makes owning a nine-year-old Tesla appealing?
sometimes 100, 150 kilometers per day.
The parent Uber is a big deal. Yes.
Yes, it is. And I thought, well, yeah, maybe I should consider to go back to electric. And the prices went down for the second hand. So I wasn't concerned. Well, I tried Geely, Test Drive, and there was something else I tried. I don't remember. At some point I was considering the new cars. Okay.
So you did think about buying a new car, but you ended up buying a second-hand one, mate, because the market for second-hand, you've mentioned it a couple of times now, I'm assuming the market for second-hand was quite attractive at that point.
Yeah. So the issue with the new electric cars, yeah, of course you can get fairly inexpensive, but there will be unknown brands. We don't know what's going to happen in three years. You discussed it a few times.
Yep.
and uh yeah so the interior for example geely is amazing it looks good but what's going to happen three years in five years i don't know yeah they're still under the warranty and most of them still you probably need to get financed this um whatever the least thing called now and i couldn't get it from my work anyway so it would be just normal normal finance you're dragging you're killing me mate what did you buy well
Well, the best car ever made. So it's Tesla Model S. And it's exactly the same as Stephen had. I actually watched his video, his review.
75D.
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Chapter 3: How does resale value impact electric car decisions?
But it sounds like it's a great car because you've also got a family and you need that room. So it's probably way better than a Model 3 in that sense.
Yeah. Yes, that was one of the considerations because more or less it's like hatchback. It's really big.
Yeah.
And yeah, I do. It's got a lot of room in that car. So I have a lot of equipment.
So what year model is it, mate? What year model is it? 2017. 17, okay. So it's the same. That was my car was a 17, late 17 mine was. Yeah, wow.
Yeah, I think the interior, yeah, it was white. Yeah, it's a beautiful car. And of course, yeah, I understand the risk. You know, it's like, oh, yeah, it's an old car. What's going to happen with the battery? Yeah, well, did you get it checked out?
Was there a report to say the battery health, Leo, when you bought it? Was there something you could check?
No, I asked, yeah, I asked previous owner if there was, we were trying to find, I think that back then for this model, I don't think there is service mode or something. It wasn't ā so I just asked them to charge in full. It was $350, $360 in full, which is ā What was it?
News about $430, I think it was, $430. That's not horrible. Over 10 years. Over $400 brand new, yeah. Lose $70,000 over 10 years. Not bad, yeah. Well, mate, I think, yeah, that's still workable.
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Chapter 4: What are common issues faced by BYD owners?
Not many EV9s on the road, not many Cooper Borns, a lot of Model 3s. But I would own a Model S because not many of them are around. I think I see once a week.
Leo said he can't believe I sold the car. Is that right, Leo? You can't believe I sold the car. Yes, I cannot believe it. Well, you know, I was locked into a lease, and I thought, you know what, time to move on. You know what? It was harder than I thought to sell it.
Yes, you thought you were going to get a lot more for it too.
I thought I was going to get a lot more for it, but then sort of the market adjusted itself.
I would call you financially irresponsible because you kept that car. Think of all the money you've spent monthly on that new lease. You could have owned that car outright by now and Leo's still driving the bloody thing.
That exactly was my thinking. Yeah. Yeah, it's like buying a new car, especially when Model S was new, it was $130,000, $140,000. That's ridiculous. Yeah.
Mate, that's a lovely, lovely story. Really fascinating that you went so deep into EV a couple of times, went back to petrol.
Back out and then back in.
But still, this period of time, as we've heard from many other people, has forced them to think about the cost of running a car. And yet you've, rather than, you test drove some new cars, you've gone, I'm going to go with one of the better cars of all time. One of the best electric cars of all time. I think we pretty much all agree right here.
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Chapter 5: What factors should be considered when choosing a family car?
Mate, lovely to hear from you, Leo. Really good stuff, mate. Thank you, guys. Thanks, mate. Cheers, mate. Excellent stuff. There you go. Stephen has been made to regret his life decisions.
He said he watched my videos. He's got the exact car I had, the 75D, 2017. Mine was late 2017 model. Wow. You know what, there was ā I could have hung on to the car, no doubt. Obviously. I could have hung on to it, but I think the lease was finished and I think sort of the benefit of the lease was finished. I had to move on. Yeah.
And I wrote a story about how I left Tesla and went back to my ex. That got a lot of feedback, that one.
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Chapter 6: How does the Tesla Model Y compare to other family EVs?
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Yeah.
How are you, mate? You're in the market for an EV.
Oh, well, when I contacted you guys, I was in the market. I did my reset. Guess what? I opted for the Model YL. Ah, you know what? Hey, excuse me.
That was my pick, mate. I said, I bet you Tesla's probably the best fit. I suggest, and you boom. You proved me right, mate. How did you narrow it down?
Like, how did you arrive at the Tesla?
Oh, man, I did a lot of research, asked friends questions. I went on chat GPT. I did a lot of things. I was stuck between Zika, 7X, and Tesla. That was a main market. Oh, man, I was like, okay. At the end of the day, I wanted something with a very good resale value, something that's been there for some time, good range, and also have a family. I was like, you know what? Yes.
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Chapter 7: What are the advantages of charging at home for EV owners?
I just fell in love with Tesla after doing some review, man.
Yeah, right. Did Tesla not chuck in a wall charger, mate, or do you have to buy that separate?
I think I have to buy it separate.
The days of Tesla chucking in things were back when Stephen bought the car. That was a long time ago when you got free superchargers. That was eight years ago. I don't need to do that no more. So wall charger, battery, you're going the whole hog. You'll be super green in August.
Yeah, you know what? I didn't actually know that no EV comes with a spare tyre. That's quite disappointing.
Yes, very rare. No EV comes with a spare tyre.
So have you heard of an EV with a spare tyre?
I don't look enough, but I've never seen one, no. The thing with it, mate, and from a former Tesla driver myself, Piment, I've had a couple of flat tyres, and they come to you with a tyre, take yours to the repair centre, and then you go and pick it up when it's been repaired. So they come to you, they change a tyre, not a problem. Okay, that's good then. Also, you're not missing out.
So the thing is, it's not like you've made a decision for a car versus everyone else. The Kia that I'm in right now has no spare tyre. But to be clear, you know, they have a tyre inflation kit. So if you've just got a flat tyre, it can be inflated quickly. Does Tesla include that? I'm pretty sure all cars do.
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Chapter 8: How do color choices affect resale value for electric cars?
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on me for too long there sorry i stopped that when i was trying to be fancy two blokes talking electric cars thanks to nrma insurance and union smart dashcams we'd love to hear from you colin's on the line g'day colin g'day mate mate you uh you own a byd sea lion six is that correct yeah that's right yeah i had it for about six months now oh not nearly a year actually wow how's it going for you yeah pretty good actually better than expected um
Yeah, I bought a hybrid basically because I didn't want to go full electric at this time because of the lack of charging infrastructure. But it's worked out really well.
So are you in an area where there isn't much or is that your general perception that there isn't much or what's the situation?
It was more that I do a bit of country driving and I'm happy with the coverage in metro areas, but just the coverage outside of Sydney wasn't great. At this stage? It's actually a lot better now. I went on a road trip a couple of weeks ago and I was pleasantly surprised at the number of recharging stations going down the south coast, for example.
Oh, down the south coast. I was going to say, where did you go? So what sort of areas that were covered that you didn't think would be?
um uh one of my customers is down in eden actually okay and uh yeah getting down that far it's uh they're a bit few and far between well they certainly were when i was looking anyway any uh and you mentioned in your text to us that you switched to the agl plan is that a noticeable change for you getting the cheaper overnight charging yeah absolutely i mean that was one of the the kickers that actually put me uh
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