Two Chairs Talking

Lots of Screen Time

05 Mar 2026

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Season 2, Episode 15 David and Perry talk about the TV shows they enjoyed most during 2025. Introduction (1:10) Our TV watching during 2025 (52:29) ...

Some Spools of Film

25 Feb 2026

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Season 2, Episode 14 Perry and David discuss the films they most enjoyed watching or re-watching during 2025. Introduction (0:48) Film and TV watchi...

A Pile of Books

20 Jan 2026

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Season 2, Episode 13 David and Perry discuss their favourite books read during 2025 Introduction (0:39) Our 2025 reading (54:05) Perry's Favourite ...

It Creeps Through the Dark

31 Dec 2025

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Season 2, Episode 12 Perry and David discuss the new Frankenstein movie directed by Guillermo del Toro, the latest Ned Kelly Award winner, and other b...

Going South in America

24 Nov 2025

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Season 2, Episode 11 Perry has returned from his trip to South America, which he describes in detail, and then he and David discuss the David Lynch fi...

Misfortunes, Mayhem and Bloody Murders

21 Oct 2025

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Season 2, Episode 10 With co-host Perry overseas at present, David talks to Dr. Lucy Sussex about her recent book Outrageous Fortunes and her visit to...

Children of the Future Age

29 Sep 2025

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Season 2, Episode 9 David and Perry discuss the film Children of Men and the recent Miles Franklin Award winner, Ghost Cities by Siang Lu. Introduct...

Cleansing the Doors of Perception

02 Sep 2025

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Season 2, Episode 8 Perry and David discuss the film Asteroid City directed by Wes Anderson, and the novel The Saint of Bright Doors by Vajra Chandras...

The Clock Has Stopped in the Dark!

28 Jul 2025

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Season 2, Episode 7 David and Perry discuss the novel Shroud by Adrian Tchaikovsky, and the film Dark City directed by Alex Proyas Introduction (1:4...

Exhausting the Realm of the Possible

26 Jun 2025

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Season 2, Episode 6 Perry and David discuss the latest Mission Impossible movies and the novel Julia. Introduction (01:15) Discussion (53:05) Missi...

Like a worm in the bud

26 May 2025

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Season 2, Episode 5 Perry and David discuss the novel Karla’s Choice by Nick Harkaway and the film Parasite directed by Bong Joon Ho. Introduction...

The Eye of the Storm

29 Apr 2025

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Season 2, Episode 4 Perry and David discuss the novellas Typhoon by Joseph Conrad and The Tusks of Extinction by Ray Nayler, as well as the film Birdm...

Don't Ever Leave

24 Mar 2025

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Season 2, Episode 3 David and Perry discuss the film "Never Let Me Go" and the novel "This Kingdom of Dust" in depth as well as mentioning a few other...

The Vision Splendid

25 Feb 2025

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Season 2, Episode 2 David and Perry discuss the films and television shows they watched during 2024 and give lists of their best in each category. I...

The Books! The Books!

22 Jan 2025

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Season 2 Episode 1 David and Perry discuss the books they read during 2024 and give lists of their best five in each category. Plus their most disappo...

Episode 102: Fanzines, the State of the Art

22 Jul 2024

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In this special episode, Perry hosts a discussion panel at Conflux, a science fiction convention held in Canberra in October 2023. The topic was "Fanz...

Episode 101: The best SF novels of the 1960s

22 Jun 2024

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In this special episode, David and Perry give a talk at the Nova Mob about the SF novels of the 1960s. To decide on the best, we treat the exercise as...

Episode 100: We score a century!

16 Jan 2024

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Perry and David celebrate the 100th episode of the podcast by discussing the best books they read during 2023. And bid you all a fond farewell. Intro...

Episode 99: Good thinking, Ninety-Nine!

12 Dec 2023

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Perry and David discuss their recent reading, including several crime or crime-adjacent books, a middle-school fantasy, and an excellent piece of hist...

Episode 98: Sorrow and silence are strong

21 Nov 2023

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Perry and David discuss recent book awards and go on to discuss their recent reading, some of which evoke strong emotions and others which have kept u...

Episode 97: Murder, magic and mutiny

10 Oct 2023

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David and Perry talk about their recent reading, ranging from a confronting story of racism and murder in America, through a pleasant coming-of-age no...

Episode 96: The manner of your vile outrageous crimes

19 Sep 2023

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Perry and David talk about their latest reading, listening and watching in the crime genre, from a classic PI novel to the latest best-seller. Introd...

Episode 95: A mixed bag of goodies

29 Aug 2023

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David and Perry discuss a wide range of reading and movie watching, ranging from Restoration period historical fiction through a contemporary true sto...

Episode 94: Just a feeling in my water

03 Aug 2023

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Perry and David discuss audiobooks, cover a swag of awards and recent news, and then go on to talk about what they've read (or listened to) recently. ...

Episode 93: Yesterday’s Tomorrows

04 Jul 2023

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David and Perry take the Hugo Time Machine back to 1970, the year that The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin won the Best Novel Hugo. David h...

Episode 92: A goldfinch in a graveyard

13 Jun 2023

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Perry and David discuss the volunteer work they've been doing recently, then go on to talk about their recent reading and watching. Intro (02:13) What...

Episode 91: Looking at things from a different angle

23 May 2023

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David and Perry discuss Perry's recent overseas trip, and then talk about their recent reading, including several books which take existing stories an...

Episode 90: De profundis clamavi

30 Apr 2023

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Perry and David talk about their recent reading and watching, in particular discussing a novel they have both nominated for this year's Hugo Awards, T...

Episode 89: Again and again and again

12 Apr 2023

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David and Perry discuss a number of books dealing with alternate or parallel streams of time, and analyse in depth the novel Life After Life by Kate A...

Episode 88: But was it a crime?

20 Mar 2023

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Perry and David discuss their recent reading of crime novels, or were they merely crime-adjacent novels? You can choose! Introduction (02:09) Loss of...

Episode 87: Automated mansplaining

02 Mar 2023

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David and Perry spend a while discussing the problems with "generative A.I." and then go on to talk about their recent reading. Perry interviews W.H.C...

Episode 86: Your own private screening theatre

07 Feb 2023

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Perry talks about the best movies and television he watched during 2022. David discusses his work for Standard Ebooks. Perry interviews Lucy Sussex ab...

Episode 85: The Books! The Books!

17 Jan 2023

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David and Perry discuss their reading during 2022 and list their selections of the best books in a range of categories, and end up agreeing on the bes...

Episode 84: Heading towards the end of year

13 Dec 2022

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Perry and David wind up the year by talking about the books they've read recently, including some neglected works and one being celebrated thirty year...

Episode 83: And what does this one look like?

22 Nov 2022

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David and Perry discuss Day's End and Limberlost, two new titles from Text Publishing, and then go on to talk with W. H. Chong, who designed the cover...

Episode 82: A new wave comes flooding in

03 Nov 2022

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Perry and David discuss some recent awards and general news and then take off in the Hugo Time Machine to visit the year 1969, when Stand on Zanzibar ...

Episode 81: Truth will come to light

18 Oct 2022

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David and Perry talk about Perry's recent overseas trip and attendance at the World SF Convention in Chicago, and then go on to talk about their recen...

Episode 80: Finding a place in the world

20 Sep 2022

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With co-host Perry still overseas, David discusses some recent awards and goes on to interview Rob Gerrand about writing and publishing in Australia, ...

Episode 79: The evil that men do lives after them

30 Aug 2022

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David and Perry discuss crime fiction, both in books and on television, ranging from a fascinating non-fiction book about the making of 'The Godfather...

Episode 78: Into many a green valley drifts the appalling snow

09 Aug 2022

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Perry and David talk about a bunch of recent literary awards and then go on to discuss the books they've read recently, which cover the range from an ...

Episode 77: A forest of Hugo awards

19 Jul 2022

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David and Perry complete their review of all of the fiction nominated for this year's Hugo Awards by discussing the Best Novel category. Then Perry an...

Episode 76: Psalms, splinters and burning tigers

28 Jun 2022

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Perry and David discuss in detail the novellas nominated for this year's Hugo Awards, and Perry talks to Rose Mitchell about the latest season of Star...

Episode 75: A Bug in the Program

10 Jun 2022

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David and Perry discuss this year's nominees for the Short Story and Novelette categories of the Hugo Award, and Perry discusses the movie "Everthing ...

Episode 74: Murder, though it have no tongue, will speak

17 May 2022

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Perry and David talk about their recent reading in the crime field, and spend some time on one particularly interesting crossover of the crime and SF ...

Episode 73: If I could only remember my name

20 Apr 2022

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David and Perry discuss recent awards and nominations, say a sad farewell to a friend, and talk about their recent reading, several items of which see...

Episode 72: A dangerous kind of vision

29 Mar 2022

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Perry and David take the Hugo Time Machine back to the year 1968, when the shorter fiction was dominated by the Dangerous Visions anthology edited by ...

Episode 71: With all this crimes broad blown

08 Mar 2022

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David and Perry plunge again into the murky depths of crime fiction, both in print and on television. General News (05:04) 2022 International Thriller...

Episode 70: Up in the clouds

15 Feb 2022

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Perry and David discuss their recent reading, in particular Cloud Cuckoo Land by Anthony Doerr and The Lost Daughter book and film. News (07:19) Locus...

Episode 69: A dream we dreamt with our eyes open

25 Jan 2022

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David and Perry talk about their favourite TV and movies they saw in 2021; and Perry talks at length with W. H. Chong about the new Dune movie. News (...

Episode 68: The Endless Bookshop

04 Jan 2022

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Perry and David talk about the best books they read during 2021 in a number of different categories. Hugo Winners (03:33) Site for Worldcon in 2023 (0...

Episode 67: The clues in the labyrinth

07 Dec 2021

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David and Perry discuss who invented science fiction and go on to talk about their recent reading, including intriguing crime novels and literary awar...

Episode 66: Where great whales go sailing by

23 Nov 2021

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Perry and David discuss recent news; David talks about the best book he's read all year; Perry reviews a magnificent book about whales; and interviews...

Episode 65: Awesome Awards

09 Nov 2021

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David and Perry discuss a number of recent award winners and take the Hugo Time Machine zooming back to the year of 1967 A. Bertram Chandler Award (01...

Episode 64: And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

26 Oct 2021

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Perry and David celebrate St. Crispin's Day by discussing recent awards, what they've been reading, both non-fiction and fiction, and summarising thei...

Episode 63: And after the fire…

12 Oct 2021

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David and Perry discuss -- and disagree about -- "The Bass Rock" and "Notes from the Burning Age" as well as two of the novels nominated for this year...

Episode 62: Lord of the Underworld

28 Sep 2021

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Perry and David talk about crime novels again, discussing books by Australian writers Garry Disher and Candice Fox, a classic by Dorothy L. Sayers, an...

Episode 61: The joining of three tides

14 Sep 2021

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David and Perry discuss recent news and go on to discuss their projects outside the podcast. They also talk about some nominees for this year's Hugo B...

Episode 60: Tales Twice Told

31 Aug 2021

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Perry and David discuss recent award winners, the nominees for the Short Story category of this year's Hugos, and the books they've been reading. Let...

Episode 59: Throughly informed

17 Aug 2021

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David and Perry discuss the nominees in the Novelette category for this year's Hugo Awards, and go on to talk about their other recent reading. Cordwa...

Episode 58: An eye on the box

03 Aug 2021

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Perry and David discuss recent award shortlists and then go on to talk about television shows they have recently watched. Awards Season (14:14) Ned Ke...

Episode 57: From a skewed perspective

21 Jul 2021

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David and Perry discuss the nominees for Best Novella at this year's Hugo Awards, then talk about some more recent reading. Miles Franklin Award Winne...

Episode 56: Labyrinths and rooftops

06 Jul 2021

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Perry and David nominate their best reads in the year so far and then go on to discuss their recent reading, ranging from children's books to a strang...

Episode 55: Make me know the nature of their crimes

22 Jun 2021

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David and Perry return to their life of crime and discuss several excellent crime novels by Australian authors and others. They jointly discuss "The C...

Episode 54: Fandom is a way of life

08 Jun 2021

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Perry and David discuss science fiction fandom and their introduction to it via amateur magazine publishing. Perry interviews Rose Mitchell, the Fan G...

Episode 53: Fact and fantasy

25 May 2021

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David and Perry discuss recent awards in the Horror genre; Perry talks about a recent Australian novel, a podcast, and some fantasy novellas; and Davi...

Episode 52: Nothing is so perfect...

12 May 2021

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Perry and David take the Hugo Time Machine on an expedition to the year 1966, the year when Dune won the Best Novel award The Big Jab (01:48) 2021 Loc...

Episode 51: My Uncle Oscar had a sudden flash

27 Apr 2021

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David and Perry talk about television and movies. Perry discusses several films nominated for this year’s Academy Awards, and David talks about The ...

Episode 50: The bones of the dead

13 Apr 2021

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Perry and David celebrate their 50th episode of the podcast, and talk about the books they have read recently in the crime and thriller genre. Game of...

Episode 49: Delving Down Under

30 Mar 2021

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David and Perry look at Australian literature, ranging from a book about bushrangers written in serial form in 1882 to modern science fiction. Reading...

Episode 48: We’re not the judges

16 Mar 2021

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Perry and David talk about a diverse selection of books they've been reading lately, and Perry talks to Dr. Lucy Sussex about the best books she read ...

Episode 47: Just a couple of volunteers

02 Mar 2021

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David and Perry discuss a recent book and television series they have both enjoyed and then move on to talk about some of their volunteer activities o...

Episode 46: These accusations, and these grievous crimes

16 Feb 2021

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Perry and David revisit the scene(s) of the crime, discussing books in a variety of sub-genres within the crime/thriller category. Vale Yvonne Roussea...

Episode 45: Not Waving but Drowning

02 Feb 2021

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David and Perry talk about the books they've been reading lately, ranging in length from novellas to a nine-volume, almost million-word opus written e...

Episode 44: And I watched some stuff, too

19 Jan 2021

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Perry and David wind up their discussion of the best books they read in 2020 and roll on to talking about their best movies and television seen during...

Episode 43: Yeah, I read a few books last year

12 Jan 2021

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David and Perry look back at the books they read during 2020 and pick their favourites in a variety of categories. David's reading during 2020 (03:59)...

Episode 42: Life, the Universe and Everything

08 Dec 2020

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Perry and David discuss the fine art of tsundoku and then fire up the Hugo Time Machine yet again to return to the year of 1965, when Fritz Leiber's "...

Episode 41: A series of perfect murders

24 Nov 2020

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David and Perry return to their love of crime, and discuss both newly released titles in the genre and some old classics. The Good Turn by Dervla McTi...

Episode 40: Lost in the labyrinth of words

10 Nov 2020

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Perry and David discuss their recent reading, ranging over a wide range of genres. Coronavirus state of play (02:53) Internet Archive looking for dona...

Episode 39: Completely zoned out

27 Oct 2020

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David and Perry visit the Eastern Block and discuss novels by Stanisław Lem and the Strugatsky brothers, and the films based on two of their books. E...

Episode 38: Big, bigger, biggest, bigly!

14 Oct 2020

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Perry and David have fun talking about BIG objects in science fiction, from flying cities to spheres totally enclosing stars. Megastructures (06:36) C...

Episode 37: One Hundred Years of Cyberitude

29 Sep 2020

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David and Perry discuss the centenary of the coining of the word ‘robot’, the winner of the 2020 Arthur C. Clarke Award, and take the Hugo Time Ma...

Episode 36: Marrying the genre next door

15 Sep 2020

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Perry and David talk about novels which blur the boundaries between genres: literary novels with strong elements of fantasy or science fiction. We can...

Episode 35: The gifted grotesqueries of Terry Gilliam

01 Sep 2020

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David and Perry farewell John Bangsund, a stalwart of the Australian science fiction community; and look at three movies directed by Terry Gilliam: Ti...

Episode 34: Location, location, location

18 Aug 2020

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Perry and David return to a life of crime! Well, reading about crime, anyway. They discuss: Under the lockdown (01:41) Corrections (06:10) Kim Huett's...

Episode 33: Translations, transforms and traumas

04 Aug 2020

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David and Perry discuss the ConNZealand convention and the 2020 Hugo Awards and then take the Hugo Time Machine back to the interesting year of 1963. ...

Episode 32: The Masks We Wear

21 Jul 2020

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Perry and David talk about what they've been watching lately and discuss: Coronavirus news (01:32) Ad Astra (09:33) Yesterday (09:13) The Mandalorian ...

Episode 31: Through a dark glass

07 Jul 2020

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David and Perry talk about their recent reading, both good and bad; and special guest W. H. Chong talks about Ghost Species by James Bradley. Coping w...

Episode 30: The many trouser-legs of time

23 Jun 2020

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Perry and David are joined by Dr. Lucy Sussex to talk about alternate history novels. In particular, they discuss those alternate timelines in which t...

Episode 29: Omphalistic Hugosity

09 Jun 2020

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This episode is dedicated to the memory of Brian Robert Middlemiss (20 July 1930 - 5 June 2020). David and Perry talk about the shorter fiction nomine...

Episode 28: Mastering the Dragons

26 May 2020

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Perry and David discuss the upcoming Hugo Awards, and David discusses with Rob Gerrand their mutual love of the work of Jack Vance. Hugo Award nominee...

Episode 27: TV or Not TV?

12 May 2020

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David and Perry talk about science fiction on television, picking out a few favourites among a vast array of available material: The Expanse (Amazon P...

Episode 26: Now We Are One

28 Apr 2020

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Perry and David celebrate the first anniversary of this podcast by each talking about the best five books they've ever read. Our podcast anniversary (...

Episode 25: Kings of Infinite Space

14 Apr 2020

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David and Perry, together with special guests W. H. Chong and Paul Carr, talk about how they first started to become SF/Fantasy readers, and in Paul's...

Episode 24: Noir is the New Black

31 Mar 2020

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In a special Crime episode Perry and David, with special guest Dr. Lucy Sussex, discuss: Social distancing Clarification Follow-up - Nebula Awards Vo...

Episode 23: Stocking up for the Apocalypse

17 Mar 2020

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David and Perry discuss: The Coronavirus Epidemic How we rate books Touch~Claire North Hugo Awards for 2020 A Memory Called Empire~Arkady Martine Infi...

Episode 22: The best publishing house in Old North Australia

02 Mar 2020

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In this special episode, Perry and David speak to Rob Gerrand, Bruce Gillespie and Carey Norstrilia Press Interview How Norstrilia Press got started C...

Episode 21: A beautifully illuminated blueprint

18 Feb 2020

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David and Perry discuss 1961, an amazingly good year for science fiction: Hugo Time Machine (1961) Novel nominees Rogue Moon by Algis Budrys The High ...

Episode 20: Don’t need no Saturn V rockets

04 Feb 2020

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Perry and David discuss: Follow-ups What we've been reading Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe The Lost City of Z by David Grand Nova Mob - Ian Mond's recommend...

Episode 19: Perplexed by hailstones

21 Jan 2020

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David and Perry discuss: Best movies 2019 -- Perry Avengers - Infinity War Captain Marvel All Is True Knives Out John Wick Chapter 3 Best Movies 2019...

Episode 18: Food for the soul

07 Jan 2020

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Our longest episode yet! Perry and David discuss the Australian bushfire crisis and look back at the best books they read in 2019: Australian bushfire...