Two Hot Takes host, Morgan, is joined by guest co-host Michaela Okland! This week's episode is a needed distraction full of stories that have us corkscrewing to the core of the earth. From one woman who get's called a witch by her mother-in-law due to a halloween costume to someone who breaks up with her partner "over nothing".. we do some circles throughout these ones. Please chime in on this episode! We'd love to hear from the needed specialists or if you have a positive, uplifting story to share. Really thinking of you all this week
Chapter 1: What are the stories discussed in this episode?
Oh my god, I got a DM today that was someone who I guess I went to high school with, which I don't know this. He was like, I walked in on my wife watching you on Too Hot Takes this morning. And I was like, cool. I didn't say anything. In your head. But I was like, that's so funny because I'm getting ready to go on Too Hot Takes today. Again, today.
She's back, y'all. She's back. We have Mikayla Oakland in the studio today on another episode of Too Hot Takes with me, your host, Morgan. Hi. Hello. Here we go. We've had, we just had like such a little tea sesh before this.
We had such a tea sesh before this. And it's like, we do need to start, but also this is really important.
It was very healing. It was very healing for me. I'm so excited to get into this, but because of that tea session, I feel like the theme is even more on point. It's like, I'm spiraling. Girl, I'm spiraling. All of these stories, I read a couple of them. Some are blind reactions today, but I read most of them, and it was like... I'm spiraling.
I'm spiraling for OP or like the person that was wronged in this situation. That was me listening to you 10 minutes ago. Spiraling.
And if I were you, I would be spiraling. I know. But you're brave.
I am brave. I'm enough. I'm strong. No, it's all good. Life has a lot of amazing things in store. So it's like one little hiccup. It's all good. It's all good.
And now you know.
And now you know.
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Chapter 2: How can financial decisions impact relationships?
Ready to spiral.
Bye.
our very first story today yeah bright-eyed bushy-tailed bright-eyed and bushy-tailed it's coming from r slash am i wrong eight hours old oh wow okay yeah yeah kicking us off on a recent note my fiancee 27 male asked me 26 female to sell my investments for his pilot training am i being unfair for refusing is this a stupid decision
My fiance, 27 male, and I, 26 female, are getting married next year. We've been together for four years and have a joint account. Both of us are working full-time right now, but he is trying to get into flight school to become a pilot, which would cost around $94,000. Oh, wow. We discussed how we can finance it. We have financial help from our parents with our wedding, fortunately.
We realized if we use our current savings and try to save every penny for like 10 more months, we would not need a very huge loan, just a reasonable amount with maybe 2K in interest rates. If we save longer and try to side hustle, and if I get a raise, maybe we would not even need a loan at all.
Right after that, he told me he knows how we could finance it without a loan and without living scarcely for the next few months. If I sell all of my investments. I have currently 40K in investments, which I started years before I met him and stopped investing after I met him.
These were savings from summer jobs, internships, money presents from relatives, which have grown very well due to investing. I've never been a big spender. I never planned on touching this money unless it is for an emergency or a down payment for a flat or house, so I refused. I told him I would only maybe sell 10K, but I do not see the point since we could afford it by working and saving too.
But I did not know if that is wrong from me since we are getting married soon." but it just feels wrong. And I take great reassurance, is that the right word? In having these investments ready for emergencies or for a potential house investment. And what happens if I lose my job during his pilot training? Then the 40K investments would act like a safety net.
Little backstory to evaluate if I'm being fair or unfair. I completed a very expensive master's, still not even a third of pilot academy, which my parents paid for fortunately. We did a long-distance relationship during that, and he occasionally paid for my or his flights before we had a joint account.
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Chapter 3: Why do family dynamics cause stress during holidays?
Right. She's using her savings, her salary, and is willing to use 10K of her investments. She's willing to do quite a bit for his pilot school.
Well, and I feel like only paying $2,000 for a loan to be able to go to school is amazing. Yeah, that's incredible. I checked in on my student loans the other day. Oh, no, I can't do that. I'm like making payments. I'm like, how does anyone pay these off if all you're doing is paying towards the interest? That's so fucked up. Like, so I'm like, I'm I'm one fuck student loans. Fuck Melnet.
Like, we should not be charging students, people trying to better their lives, interest on things that you almost make a requirement now to live. Yeah. Fuck that. So I hear 2K and I'm like that. Sounds great. That sounds amazing that you have a partner paying half of your education because yes, that does better your life and all of this.
But like, I don't know if this is just me getting some red flags from him, but I almost want her to like get a prenup and put those investment accounts as like premarital assets that like he never has access to. I don't know why. I'm just getting a really bad vibe.
It is suspicious because, like, I do think she's already offering so much... I'll say it again. Saving salary and 10K of her personal investments from her whole life, and they're not even married yet. So it is...
very surprising to me that he's not more grateful and he's not more like oh it's amazing that you're willing to do that much for me even I don't even want to take anything from your investments like that's something you've worked for for so long like that that's a smart thing that you did and and we just should
still live lavishly and use your investment like that's just also stupid that's not a very smart way to live financially and i'm also curious like okay great like say we did take out all this money from my investments are you gonna then put the 40k back first yeah you start you make it through pilot school or maybe you don't make it through pilot school what is the repayment plan on my investments yeah
Like, I feel like that should be paid back.
But he doesn't sound like someone who would invest because he clearly doesn't see the value of it.
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Chapter 4: What happened with the husband who used bodily fluids?
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Oh. Okay. Oh. Okay. However, around the time of the wedding, I started to see a bunch of red flags. I generally chalked them up to wedding stress on their part. My husband is their only son. But after the wedding, the red flags started getting even bigger. I was still nothing but kind towards them, but my husband was frustrated and started going low contact with them. So that's the backstory.
Now on Saturday, my husband and I went to a friend's birthday party, which was Halloween themed and costumes were mandatory. We both got too busy with work, and at last minute, the only costume we could pull together was him wearing a t-shirt that said, I'm with the witch, and me wearing a black dress I already owned with a black choker necklace. That's it, you guys. The extent of our costume...
We took a picture at this party and it was put on the socials. The next day, mother-in-law texts hubby and I a screenshot of said picture and writes a message about how concerned she is about us and that she is praying for us. I was confused until my husband reminded me of her Karen Christianity.
You know, the kind that gets offended if anyone happens to be a different religion, offended if anyone says, what the hell, etc. My husband then starts getting phone calls from random, distant, and extended family members asking if he's okay.
Turns out, Karen had texted my husband's entire extended family, uncles, aunts, cousins, all over the country, the same screenshot of our picture with a long five-paragraph text asking everyone to pray for her son and that I, her daughter-in-law, is into some dangerous things and is a danger to her son. Yeah. Yeah.
So of course the extended family members assume maybe I'm into drugs or I'm poisoning him or some other type of abuse. You can see what this would do for my reputation in his extended family. I text her back and tell her that her actions were uncalled for and that I will be going no contact with her going forward. She responds with, quote, daughter-in-law, we all know you dabble in witchcraft.
I'm only concerned about my son. I pray for you both. Husband called his father and asked him how he could let her do something like this. But father-in-law doubled down on Karen's accusations. So now my husband has gotten no contact with his parents too. I feel like I'm in a really bad soap opera. This isn't real life. This has to be certifiably insane, right?
Part of me feels like no contact isn't forever and that eventually my husband and they will reconnect even if I don't, which does bother me. What would you all do in this situation?
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Chapter 5: How to cope with shocking DNA revelations?
That's... That's really nice.
And like you were also like Cleopatra. You were also Napoleon. It's just like this crazy theory. So it's a really cool science channel if anyone wants to take this conversation we're having a step further.
I'd believe anything. I'm that type of girl.
I'm very like the spirits.
If I like it, I'll be like, okay, that's my new belief.
Top comment on this one. She was looking for a reason to give you the boot and the costume was the perfect moment. She seems super toxic. No wonder why he kept his distance to begin with.
Yeah, I'm also surprised actually that the son didn't flag this as like, I mean, I guess he doesn't care, but I'm surprised he wasn't like, by the way, my whole family might find this costume to be very devilish and bad.
It is interesting because he definitely knows their whole thing. I'm also very curious what the red flags were that came up during like the wedding stuff.
Yeah, the earlier ones. I would like to hear that too.
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Chapter 6: What mental health support is available?
Yeah, that's not someone's fault. That doesn't mean it doesn't hurt that person. And it's not like a terrible experience for them, but you're not an asshole for it.
It's more so, like you said, how you handle it. Mm-hmm. So there is a comment here. Not the asshole. You didn't leave for no reason, but sounds like it's good that you did. If they keep pushing, tell them to ask Eric what Mark meant. Maybe they'll see it for themselves.
That's a good point. That's a good point. Like, bring it up to him and you'll see his reaction. But maybe now he'll chill out. I don't know.
Yeah.
He'll act cool about it.
Well, we have an update.
Thank God.
I feel like I'm living in some kind of twisted nightmare. And the more I try to make sense of it, the worse it gets. Sparkling. Mark called me today while I was at work. I didn't expect him to call me because he was ignoring me. So I stepped outside to take the call. And he told me something that I never in a million years could have prepared for.
He told me that Eric has been putting other men's semen into my food, drinks, skincare, shampoo, conditioner, and even my toothpaste. Sorry? What the f- Sorry?
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Chapter 7: How do listeners react to the stories shared?
I don't know if he specifically has a sex thing where he likes doing this to women or if this is just something he would do to anyone.
How do you even start initiating this? How do you how how sick do you have to be? And the other people also like engaging and willfully giving them. I know. What does he say to these people when he's collecting their sperm?
What like what is he what is the excuse he gives for? Hey, can you come into this cup?
Surely I want to drink it later.
I don't know. There's no way he's telling them what it's actually for.
I don't know.
I hope not.
Because then there are a lot more evil people out there. It's really, it's a scary thought. So OP does respond to that comment. Everything I threw out was in the kitchen garbage, so it didn't get taken on trash day. My mom and my cousin went to the house with the police to get it for evidence. I'm pressing charges against him. Thank God. Thank God. That's the last comment we have from OP.
So I'm hoping, you know, we get an update. It has been 14 days. That comment was 11 days ago. So I would assume based on what we had in the update, like OP is maybe in an inpatient program, you know, getting some help because I would be... I would be corkscrewed down to the core of the earth after this.
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