Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1033 | Jase Uncovers a Bible Verse That Caused Extreme Rage & the Mind-Boggling Disaster Zone in NC
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
Zach recounts the continuing works of God’s people for the hurricane victims in North Carolina, including a recent visit from President Trump. Al is impressed by the staying power of faith-based organizations when it comes to showing the light of Jesus in relief ministry, and Jase ponders the truest, deepest meaning of rebirth. The guys dive into what it means to “be fruitful and multiply,” Jase reveals the Galatians verse that caused incredible controversy, and Zach lays out some verses pointing to God’s version of gender equality. In this episode: John 1; Isaiah 40; Romans 9, verse 6; Galatians 1, verses 3-6; Genesis 1, verse 28 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What recent event in North Carolina did Zach discuss?
For those of y'all who have asked, how's the rebuilding effort going? It's been a struggle. Things are happening, but from what I've been told and what I've read, they're saying that it's going to be four to six years at this current pace just to clean up all the debris. So there's still a ton of debris. Some bridges are still out.
I mean, like you can look at the top of these trees and there's like car parts like wrapped around trees. And I mean, it still looks like a war zone. It is going to be a very, very long effort to recovery. But yeah, it was encouraging to see the president come. I continue to see groups like One Kingdom, World Vision coming.
Samaritan's Purse all these non-profit NGOs you know Christ-centered organizations have stepped in and moved in a very very meaningful way so um it is encouraging but it's also going to be like a really long haul starting to kind of you kind of come back down to reality when you think man this is this isn't going to happen overnight so our hearts and prayers go out with the folks that suffered all the loss in California as well I mean it's just crazy what's happening and
with some of these natural disasters.
I love the way you put it, that sometimes, you know, the government can be a bit clumsy, and even the president said it this time. I mean, our, you know, emergency response is not always tuned to local things, and It doesn't understand local things. But you mentioned early that the kingdom of God tends to be nimble and quick and understanding of people.
And I thought it's interesting because now that we're several months past the event happening, the kingdom of God also has a long staying power. And so I just look at all the different groups that have come in there, the hearts that have poured into it. And, you know, you don't want to compare things necessarily. It's all bad when bad things happen to people.
But I did notice in California they were talking about, you know, in the 17,000, 20,000 properties or businesses. But when they showed a picture, North Carolina was over 150,000. And I just don't think people understood the scale of how big the disaster was and that whole towns were wiped out. So you're talking about not just a neighborhood, but a complete town.
And that was over and over and over again. So I just don't think people understood the scale of what happened there. But I mean, me being there on the ground when it happened, I mean, it was massive. And the rebuild and the infrastructure build is going to be, you know, long term to get it done.
Yeah, it will be. I mean, if I was running the show, which I'm not, I probably would do a horrible job at it. But one thing I would love to see happen is more cleanup. I mean, I wish there was a way to get more of the cleanup done because there's just debris everywhere.
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Chapter 2: How are faith-based organizations responding to disasters?
And I think that's exactly why he chose that, that concept for Jesus to become flesh, that this was something beyond human decision. And it gives you a little glimpse of a way back with Abraham and Sarah when they couldn't conceive. And yet this child of promise would be born. Now they went about it the physical way, but it was all done in faith because they were having to trust in God.
I think that then shows the picture of what happens with us when we become reborn and It's not because of a humanity connection. It's because of a spirit connection that then allows us to live. And so that's just another one of those threads that John puts out here that's so powerful as to why it happened the way it happened.
And the way that he set up the book, the first chapter, he gives all these little nuggets that are pretty hard to wrap your head around. And then once Chapter 2 starts, it's like all these pictures – like in practical Jesus behavior that he did. I mean, because where does this come up again?
John 3, guy comes in the middle of the night and he's like, hey, I see you must be from God because nobody could be doing these things. And Jesus is like, you need to be born again or born from above. You know, when you look at what the Greek word includes, they always put that in the margin. Because they're really not sure how to translate that.
I mean, just like here, it's like, what does he mean that you got to be born, but it's not born of natural, so it's not talking about a baby, physical baby, or of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God?
Well, think about the context of what he's saying here. He's talking about that Christ came to his own people first, and they rejected him, and now he's opening it up. So you go to Romans 9, I think it sheds some light on it. This is how Paul says it. He says that not all, this is Romans 9, 6, for not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel. Think about that.
And not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring. But through Isaac shall your offspring be named. So what does that mean? What Paul says, he tells us, he said, this means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but it's the children of the promise that are counted as offspring.
So I think Romans 9 helps put a lot of context around what's happening here in John chapter 1 when he says that it's not born of the blood nor of the will of the flesh or the will of man. It says it in different translations. But I think what he's getting at here is this is about the inclusion of Gentiles into the children of God. He is saying that it's bigger than you thought.
You had it segregated out to just DNA. And I'm telling you, There's something much bigger. You didn't really understand the promise that was made to Abraham. You didn't understand the covenant. And I'm here to explain the covenant and how that covenant is going to be realized in the man that we call Jesus, who is the Son of God, God becoming flesh.
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