Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1208 | Jase Gets Roasted By a Fan & Admits It’s Painfully True
13 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: Why does Jase admit he's not a great listener?
I am unashamed. What about you?
Welcome back to Unashamed. We've been, we'll just call it passionately discussing this morning different aspects of the Unashamed podcast, and we've determined one thing. Out of the three people around this table, Zach, of course, virtually from Black Mountain, I'm the only one that listens to the other people.
Chapter 2: What is the importance of unity in the church?
as they're talking. Zach doesn't listen. Jace doesn't listen. Jace will admit it. And Zach finally admitted it today.
Nah, he begrudgingly admitted it. It wasn't a full confession. I felt like I was having a disagreement with my wife in a weird way.
Well, Zach's kind of your work wife. I see a lot of similarities.
Chapter 3: How does the Unashamed drinking game highlight their habits?
He's like, you know, you're right, but here's, then it's like the excuse on why I'm not right. So I'm like, was I really right?
What I said was, I said, Jace, you have to admit that that you, your dad, Willie, and I said, and I'll throw myself in the same group. Begrudgingly.
Chapter 4: What does Jase mean by 'chickens coming home to roost'?
Begrudgingly, but we don't listen well. We have an answer in mind. When you're talking, like if you're telling me, as people are talking, I'm already thinking about my answer.
And in defense, Zach, in defense of that, in a discussion already and thing, you do have to think about what you want to say next. So if we didn't, we'd just have a lot of dead air. It's impossible. It's impossible. But there is a skill set, and I have it. I have a certain set of skills, and I don't know where I got it, that you can listen actively and still think about what you want to say.
I make a little note here, and then when I get my chance, I'm going to jump in and make my point.
Chapter 5: How can we describe Jesus' resurrected body?
But I have a problem.
I talk more.
You do?
Yeah. But look, I'm acknowledging this fault. And so I said what I do, what I've matured.
But talking more is not necessarily a fault because you have good things to say.
Well, thank you. See, that's why you're the glue.
I tell you, one unifying group that I love is a group called Family Research Council up in D.C.
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Chapter 6: What lessons can we learn from Abraham's faith journey?
And our good friend Tony Perkins is the leader of it. He's a Louisiana guy. We love him. He's been very supportive of us. Back when Dad was being attacked, he was one of the first people in. And we love what those guys are doing. They're frontline. They're talking about what we're doing as a church, as the church, but at a national level to try to impact our politics.
So we'd love it if you support these guys, frc.org slash unashamed is where you can go to do that.
What I'm saying is, I told Zach, if you want to have a Bible study with me, which I have a lot ongoing, I do it in writing.
Chapter 7: How can we grow our faith step-by-step?
But I've learned, because now I will listen if I'm reading, And a couple of the Bible studies.
But you've always been a monologue person. You've told the story on the podcast when you were like, what were you, 15? And some person called us, some prank caller or something, and you started sharing the gospel with them. And that went on for like a year.
Yeah, you're telling that story just like it's an afterthought. Al, that was a life-changing moment for me. That's like top 10 life change. I know.
Chapter 8: What is the significance of being one in Christ according to the discussion?
I shared my first gospel presentation.
But it was a complete monologue because they never responded. It was perfect. It was great. I loved it.
So that's where I started. That's where my roots are. And I like that situation. However, when they finally made a noise, it terrified me because there had been hours of silence.
And then you heard a sniffle, right? Went under the sniffle.
And so what I was saying is most of them are discipleship studies, so they're asking questions. And I'm then going, they're reading a book. Usually we start in John, just like we're doing. And they're reading questions, they're asking questions. And look, always the first question, it's so amazing. These are different people from all over this globe. And we're having an email Bible study.
First question always, what exactly does it mean by the word became flesh? Because you just take it for granted that everybody knows what that means. Here's a guy who's come to Christ. He's in Christ. He's a Christian. It's like, let's read the book of John and just ask questions. And since that's the first verse and the first... The first verse, they're like, what's this word stuff? I'm like...
Oh, boy. Here we go. It's like, go ahead and skip down to verse 14. It'll help. Yeah, it's going to help. But it does show you how we're studying this Bible and how creative they were in that we've heard that so many times. We immediately know that verse 14 kind of clarifies that statement. But if you're just reading it, Not for the first time, but like with the first time on purpose.
Yeah, with fresh eyes.
They're like, in the beginning it was the Word, and the Word was with God. They're like, this doesn't make any sense. Right. What is the Word? Yeah. Well, it is capitalized, so what does that mean? I mean, that's a very good question.
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