Uncertain
Activity Overview
Episode publication activity over the past year
Episodes
S5: E16 - The Board Interviews Katherine: Celebrating Five Seasons and 110 Episodes
30 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The Final Episode of Season Five (and the final episode of Uncertain) is a very special episode. The Board of Directors of Tears of Eden interviews Ka...
S5:E15 - What if I Get Sued? Protecting Yourself When Telling Your Story Featuring Jenai Auman
23 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This is one of the most important and practical episodes you will likely ever listen to! As more people speak out publicly, sharing their st...
S5:E14 - A Recovering Evangelical Testimony Featuring Mattie Jo Cowsert
09 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Mattie Jo Cowsert was a pastor’s kid and proud purity ring wearer before she moved to New York City and experienced an unexpected worldview and iden...
S5: E13- Addressing Clergy Abuse Featuring Christa Brown
26 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Described as "the public face" of Baptist clergy sex abuse survivors, Christa Brown was one of the first to go public with substantiated child sex abu...
S5: E12 - How Twisted Teaching on Suffering Traps Victims in Abusive Situations Featuring Rebecca Davis
12 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode, we’ll discuss how the church’s common stance on suffering for Christ often gets twisted in such a way that victims feel they cann...
S5:E11 - Escaping Christian Patriarchy with Cait West
08 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Cait West is a writer and editor based in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Her work has been published in The Revealer, Religion Dispatches, Fourth Genre, and ...
S5: E10 - Signs of a Cult - with Sarah Edmonson
17 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We’re talking about how one of the characteristics of a cult is that they often present as a really good thing. A lot of times, they are doing reall...
S5:E9 - The Role of Anger in Healing & Empowerment with Dr. Laura Anderson (Most Loved)
10 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
One of our Most Loved episodes from Season Three, exploring common misguided perspectives of anger and how befriending our anger can help us heal.Dr. ...
S5:E8 - Stuff Christians Say -with Ashley Love Richards and Fallon Morey
20 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
New book on Spiritual Abuse available from the founder of Tears of Eden: A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse a...
S5:E7 - Church Cults, Trauma, and Humor with Shanny Payton
28 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Shannon Payton (https://shannypantsshow.com/), known as Shanny Pants by many, is a content creator and podcaster living in Rocklin, California. Althou...
S5:E6 - Abuse in the Church: The Role of Sex and Power - with Marie Giffith, PhD
20 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Marie Griffith, PhD, John C. Danforth Distinguished Professor in the Humanities at Washington University in St. Louis. She served for 12 years (2011-...
S5:E5 - The Stigmatized Single Person (And How to Thrive Anyway) with Katherine Spearing
13 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Brian Lee, from Through Cohort and Broken to Beloved Summit interviews Tears of Eden’s Founder Katherine Spearing about the Church’s harmful teach...
S5:E4 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: Thriving After Spiritual Abuse - with Connie Baker
31 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Connie Baker, LPC author of Traumatized by Religious Abuse and a therapist who works with survivors of religious trauma, joins Uncertain to discuss wh...
S5:E3 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: How Purity Culture Impacts Men - with Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals
24 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Julia and Jeremiah from the Sexvangelicals podcast (a podcast for providing the sex education the church didn’t want you to have) join Uncertain pod...
S5:E2 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: What Survivors Need from a Therapist - with Rachel Bernstein
17 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Rachel Bernstein LMFT, MSEd from the IndoctriNation podcast discusses what it’s like working with survivors from high-control groups. This episode i...
S5:E1 - Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month: You Are Not Broken - with Brian Lee
10 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Brian Lee shares his personal story of experiencing spiritual abuse and what led him to start Broken to Beloved, an online summit and support resource...
S4: E24 - The F Word (On Forgiveness) Season Finale with Connie Baker
02 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Forgiveness has often been used in the church to sideline and silence victims, either by perpetrators intent on controlling their victims or by system...
S4: E23 - On the Murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh at Covenant Theological Seminary with Karl Saint Lucy
26 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This episode discusses the brutal murder of Elizabeth Mackintosh on the campus of Covenant Theological Seminary in 1990. It also discusses an entire d...
S4: E22- Is There Really a Gay Agenda? (And Other Questions) with Bridget Eileen Rivera
19 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Bridget Eileen Rivera is a sociologist completing her Ph.D. at the City University of New York Graduate Center. Her first book, Heavy Burdens&nbs...
S4: E21 -The Problem with Modesty Talks (And Other Concerns) with Sheila Wray Gregoire
12 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Armed with data from an all-new survey of more than 7,000 women, the authors of The Great Sex Rescue, Sheila Wray Gregoire, Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbac...
S4: E20 -The Healing Power of Art (Through Musical) with Teruyo and Lennox
05 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Two ex-cult members discuss the healing power of art through the creation of a musical. Teruyo (they/them) is a racialized queer, mentally disabled, n...
S4: E19 - Second Wave Fundamentalism with Dr. Laura Anderson
28 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Second Wave Fundamentalism is a term acknowledging that we can leave fundamentalist spaces, but they do not always leave us. How do we recognize when ...
S4:E18 - On the Intersection of Faith, Sex, and Politics with Anna Beahm
21 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Anna Beahm is a Journalist with Reckon.News who has been covering the intersection of faith, s*x and politics since December 2020. In this episode, we...
S4: E17 - Because She Was a Girl: On the Experiences of Women in the Church with Megan Kenyon
14 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
When Megan Kenyon’s niece was born it propelled her on a journey of exploring the messages she received from the church about being a woman, culmina...
S4:E15 - Celebrating Three Years of Uncertainty: 3rd Anniversary Episode
29 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Celebrating Three Years of Uncertainty: 3rd Anniversary Episode(On May 30th, 2023, Seasons 1 & 2 will be archived) Transcript: I’m Katherine Spe...
S4: E14 - Can You Be Codependent on God? with Catherine Quiring
10 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode with therapist Catherine Quiring, we discuss how teaching in the church might set us up for anxious attachment to God, and the implica...
S4:E13 - Singleness, Dating, and Weird Stuff Christians Say with Kristina Hart
26 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this Episode with comedian Kristina Hart, we discuss the hilarity of learning how to date as an adult after you’ve grown up swimming in the water...
S4: E12 Untwisting Teachings Around Loyalty, Sin Leveling, & Bitterness with Rebecca Davis
19 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode with Rebecca Davis we unpack the teachings that are used in churches tomake all sins equalforce us to “err on the side of grace” w...
S4: E11 - Invisibility in the Church that was Meant for All with Francina Kahl
05 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Francina Kahl is the founder and CEO of Be Still Tea, a tea company that encourages stillness, creating space for our stories, and connecting with oth...
S4:E10 - An Adoptee’s Journey of Self-Discovery with Harrison Mooney
29 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Harrison Mooney’s memoir Invisible Boy isn’t just a story of the experience growing up in an abusive, fundamentalist Christian household, it’s a...
S4: E9 - The Ongoing, Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery with Mark Charles
15 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Charles is a speaker, writer, and consultant. The son of an American woman (of Dutch heritage) and a Navajo man, Mark teaches the complexities of...
S4:E8 - The Myths of Purity Culture with Lucy Rowett
09 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Lucy Rowett is a sex and intimacy coach for smart, passionate, and soulful women and vulva owners. She’s a sex geek and passionately believes t...
S4:E7 - Trauma and Purity Culture with Lucy Rowett
08 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Lucy Rowett is a sex and intimacy coach for smart, passionate, and soulful women and vulva owners. She’s a sex geek and passionately believes t...
S4:E6 - Power and Control in Spiritual Abuse with Connie Baker (A Most Loved Episode)
22 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today’s guest, Connie Baker, will be our Speaker at the RetreatCon and we are excited to introduce her to you. What we appreciate most about Connie ...
S4: E5 - Trauma in the Pews with Janyne McConnaughey, Ph.D
15 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
New episode out today, discussing with Janyne McConnaughey, Ph.D., her book Trauma in the PewsIn this episode we discuss: How trauma impacts a person’...
S4:E4- BITE Model and the Christian Patriarchy Movement with Cait West
01 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Yes, it’s an episode about abuse, and the cultish upbringing of the stay-at-home-daughter movement (aka Christian Patriarchy Movement), but you migh...
S4:E3 - Encountering an Abusive Church After Growing up in an Abusive Home with Nikki G. and Sarah Yaw
25 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Today's guests are Nikki G and Sarah Yaw. Nikki and Sarah are both colleagues in the spiritual abuse recovery realm and work as trauma recovery coache...
S4:E2 - Spiritual Abuse & Parenting with Ginny Barker
18 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It’s Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month. Ginny Barker opens up about how many Christian parents have been raised to spiritually abuse their children. H...
S4:E1 - Spiritual Abuse in Church of the Highlands with Liz Leiby
11 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
It’s Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month. This first episode of season 4 features Liz Leiby, discussing her letter An Open Letter to Church of the Highl...
S3:E18 - The Role of Anger in Healing & Empowerment with Dr. Laura Anderson (Season Finale)
27 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Laura Anderson is the cofounder of the Religious Trauma Institute, and founder of Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery she’s a licensed the...
S3:E17 - The Dynamics of Abuse with Polly & Bob Hamp
13 Jul 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode with Polly Hamp and Bob Hamp we discuss the dynamics of abuse, the difference between being abuse informed and trauma informed, naviga...
S3: E16 - When is it a Cult? with Gerette Buglion & Lisa from igotout.org
29 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Discussing the difference between a cult and a high control environment and the fine line between them. Addressing different tactics cult leaders use ...
S3:E15 - How to Tell Your Story with Jennifer Wainscott
22 Jun 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This is a great episode for the trauma survivor who is beginning to share their story with the world. Who do you share it with? What elements are impo...
S3:E13 - Abuse in Churches with Mike Sloan (A Most Loved Episode)
11 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This is one of our Most Loved episodes from Uncertain Featuring Mike Sloan from netgrace.orgResources mentioned in this episode:tearsofeden.orgnetgrac...
S3:E12 - Characteristics of a Toxic Faith System with Lauren Hunter
04 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Lauren Hunter is the author of the book Leaving Christian Science and is a former Christian Scientist (not to be confused with scientology). She’s a...
S3: E11 - Church, Abuse of Power, and Jesus with Diane Langberg (A Most Loved Episode)
27 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This is one of our Most Loved episodes. Diane Langberg has been a huge voice in understanding abuse, abuse in churches, and sexual abuse. She’s...
S3:E10 - A Novelist Tells the Truth with Lauren McBrayer
20 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Today’s guest is author and lawyer Lauren McBrayer. In this episode, we address women in the church, the power of narrative and storytelling, explor...
S3:E9 - Was Jesus Sexually Abused? with Keanu Heydari
06 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Keanu Heydari is a doctoral candidate at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. He studies migration and race in Europe. He’s also interested in New...
S3:E8 - The Church, Divorce, & Abusive Marriage with Natalie Hoffman
23 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is a little different than our normal interview style. Guest is Natalie Hoffman from the Flying Free podcast, but throughout the episode,...
S3:E7 - The Jesus Way with Mark Scandrette
09 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Mark Scandrette is an internationally recognized expert in practical spiritual formation. He is the founding director of ReIMAGINE: A Center for Integ...
S3:E6 The Wisdom of Our Bodies with Hillary L. McBride, PhD
23 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
In evangelical culture we receive a lot of messages about the body being bad. We’re told to control our bodies and deny our flesh, but as we’ll le...
S3:E5 Love (really does) Make Room with Staci Frenes
16 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Staci Frenes is an author, songwriter, and speaker. Her book, Love Makes Room, shares her journey to love her daughter, when her daughter disclosed th...
S3:E4 - Processing Spiritual Abuse with Drs. Lover & Rogers
26 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
This is our final episode of Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month. Thank you so much for listening, for sharing, and for participating. This is not the fin...
S3:E3 - Talking to People About Spiritual Abuse with Amy Fritz
19 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month
S3:E2 - Power and Control in Spiritual Abuse with Connie Baker
12 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month
S3:E1 - When is it Spiritual Abuse? with Laura Barringer
05 Jan 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Spiritual Abuse Awareness Month
Season 3 Trailer
08 Dec 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Transcript: I’m Katherine Spearing and this is Uncertain. And this is also the trailer for season 3, coming in January 2022.But first, a quick recap...