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Chapter 1: What are peptides and why are they gaining popularity?
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Hey guys, welcome to Banish. I'm Jess. I'm Bec Judd. And... Roberts. Jess Roberts. And Rebecca Judd. We're still hungover. I know.
I know. I'm day three of a hangover. Yeah. Oh man. I'm still drinking, so... You haven't stopped. I'm on a bender. Guys, we went to the Mick Fanning Charity Golf Day. It was actually our third. It was our second on the Gold Coast, but we've done the Melbourne event as well. And how would we describe the Mick Fanning Charity Golf Day? Honestly, it's one of my favourite days.
It's like up there with Coachella.
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Chapter 2: How do peptides work in the body?
Do you know what?
It's Coachella for golf. Yes, and charity, which is great.
Yes, it's so amazing. They're raising money for the Northern River Flood affected areas. It's been going for five years. Mick is such a legend and does such an amazing job. And how it works is... there's a celebrity plays in it with a team of four and the team of four, they like, they buy a team, all that money goes to charity.
And then on each hole, so there's 18 holes on a golf course, but they play two lots of 18 holes. So it's 36 holes. Each hole is sponsored by a brand or a business. Yeah. So when you get to that hole, there's some kind of fun activation happening. So like one year, it was like Betty's Burgers. Another year, it's like Fat Boy Bikes and you tee off and there's a DJ and a smoke machine.
It's like a tequila hole. Yeah, tequila with a Red Bull hole. Like every hole, you cruise around on your buggy and you don't know what's coming next. We had a hole... where there was a tomahawk that Jess had to eat. She turned into a doof stick and raved to a dumb dollar song. Like there's food, there's drink, there's entertainment, there's competitions, there's so much fun.
Everyone does get a little bit loose.
Not a little bit loose, we're all loose. Someone did roll a buggy. Yes, someone did. A girl fell off the buggy.
Not us. Not us.
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Chapter 3: What are the different types of peptides discussed?
Not us. But it was so much fun. So yeah, Jess and I headed up to the Gold Coast. We stayed at this amazing penthouse that the owners had given, donated all of the accommodation to the celebrities who were playing, who donated their time to play and also donated massively on their day. Massively, yeah. So Jess and I had this huge penthouse. How big was it?
It was like, to say that it's huge, it was six bedrooms with all walk-in wardrobes, all walk-in bathrooms.
The Kira Rise penthouse. It's so good. It's got its own Instagram page. Check it out.
Literally. And it's like, there was like... I think it was like eight bathrooms in total, six bedrooms. There was five living areas.
You got lost.
I got lost. Like I walked into the wrong room at one night. Like it was just, it was so much fun. A rooftop pool overlooking Kira Beach. It was so good. Do you know what I'm really upset about though? What? Well, I didn't realize until after there was a tattoo hole and we missed that tattoo.
I swear Mick made us miss that because he knew we'd be so unhinged and probably get a tattoo on our foreheads. But I was devastated. I had no idea. I was ready. And there was a snake.
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Chapter 4: What role does social media play in peptide popularity?
There was a snake hole. I was going to do a Britney Spears slave moment.
Yes, I saw Russell Coit doing that. Yes, Russell Coit. Russell Coit. He's our favourite. I know. Every time we see him, he's like, hey, girls, I haven't seen you since I saw you in the Brighton Woolies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's so good.
We love him.
And Shannon Null.
Nullsy. Nullsy wraps up the night by singing What About Me.
It's his tradition. It is the best. I asked him at 9.30 in the morning if he could sing it to me and he said no. I was a bit devastated. He's like, too early, Jess. I'm like, ugh. Anyway, he did it by the end of the night. So next year we'll get tattoos. Yes. Yeah. I'm going to get J.R. Loves R.J.
Yeah, how cute. Are you going to do the same? I'll say RJ loves... JR. JR.
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Chapter 5: What are the risks of using unregulated peptide products?
I just had to work it out.
I only worked out this weekend that we have the same initials. Oh my God, we were meant to be. Meant to be best friends.
EFF. Forever. Yes. Forever. So anyway, guys, it really is the most fun charity golf day. Like we said, it is Coachella forever. for golf. And if you wanted to support the cause, jump on mcfanningcharitygolfday.com and have a look there. Best day ever, all for a good cause. I know. And I'm so excited for next year. Same.
Lock it in. Lock it in. Before we get started, a quick reminder that this episode is for educational purposes only and isn't medical advice.
We're discussing peptides as a topic of interest, and this conversation isn't intended to promote or recommend any specific medicine, product, or treatment. If you have questions about your own health, please speak with a qualified healthcare professional. Oh, this is a big one today. I know. It is the one that everyone's been asking about. Yes.
And even in, you know, the 12-ish months since we've been doing Vainish, if you'd asked us 12 months ago what are the topics, this one wasn't one of them. And now this is the topic that everyone in 12 short months is asking the most about, and it's peptides. Peptides, yeah. It's not the GLP-1 peptides. Because remember, we did cover GLP-1s with Dr. Ryan DeCruz.
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Chapter 6: How does Australia's regulatory landscape affect peptide use?
They're in our show notes. If you want to have a listen to those, please do. That was an awesome topic. We are talking about these other peptides, glow peptides, muscle regeneration peptides, longevity peptides. Every time I bloody open my Instagram, there's some gym bro or some hot bird like flaunting these peptides and shoving them in their butt with a needle. Wow.
And then, you know, there's front page news of the age talking about peptide injuries. It is unregulated. There's so much to learn about it. It's an evolving space. And we want Vaynish to be the one-stop shop for info on peptides. So when you think about peptides, say to your friends, oh, Bec and Jess covered this on Vaynish. Yeah.
Done GLP once, and today we're going to cover all the other topical ones. So we thought we better get the best expert in to talk all things peptides. So welcome, Dr. Jason Chan. Thank you very much. So Jason has extensive background in sports medicine, surgical assistance and healthcare consulting. Tell us your qualifications and what you're doing now.
Yeah, so I run a performance medical program called PK27. My background is in general practice in sports medicine. I've been the chief medical officer at the I'm no longer doing that role. And for a long period of time, I also was a bariatric doctor for about 12 years looking after weight loss. And yeah, I find myself sitting in this room talking to you two, lovely man.
Today, we are here to talk about peptides. Now, peptides are everywhere right now. Everyone's talking about it. Every time you open your phone. Yep.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential side effects of BPC-157 and GHK-Cu?
We are getting ad targeted. All your friends. Yeah. All in the workplace, in the school moms, the school dads. It's all a thing. Even the kids. Yes. Even the kids are talking about it.
Yeah, they are. Yeah, the teenagers. Especially the ones that are in sport. And online. Yep. The other term of peptides is called peppies.
Yeah.
Oh, is that what they call it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on the pepies. You're on the pepies? Yeah, that's the other thing, yeah. And it is actually, like for how much we're having a giggle about it, it's actually pretty serious medicine. It's pretty serious stuff, yeah. And the reason we're doing this episode today is we wanted to get Jason on
to give us the medical knowledge behind it, to talk about the safety and the risks. Because there are a lot of people out there actually doing quite a bit of damage to themselves. There was a big article, I think it was front page of The Age, talking about some of the peptide disasters.
And yeah, we thought because everyone's talking about it, we want to give everyone the best medically informed education about where we're at now and what's going on in this peptide world. So peptides are everywhere, but for people listening, yeah, who have absolutely no idea what they are, what actually is a peptide? Yeah.
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Chapter 8: What should listeners consider before using peptides?
So a peptide is a chain of amino acids, generally less than 30 amino acids, if you will, which are for large part signaling sort of circumstances. So you currently have circulating somewhere towards 200,000 peptides in you right now, which are always signaling your cells. Largely, these natural peptides have very, very, very short half-lives.
So they have a half-life of 30 minutes, which for people who don't understand what the reference range for that means, it means that within your bloodstream, they're gone inside two, two and a half hours. Eliminated from your body probably inside two days. So you make them, you use them, they're gone. Undetectable. You make them, you break them. Undetectable.
And are they made by all different parts of your body? All different parts of your body. All systems. That's how they communicate.
Okay. And they're only used when they're needed, I guess. Correct. And then once they've been used and it's been fixed, it just kind of breaks down.
Correct. It's like a cascade. You know, this peptide will trigger this cell to produce that peptide, which will produce that. So it's very sort of interrelated in that sense. And a little messenger vehicle. Correct. So if you have a chain of amino acids that might be more than 30 amino acids, we call that a protein.
Hmm.
So difference between a protein and a peptide is very, very, very small. It's just that large proteins, if you will, get broken down into smaller amino acids. And so when you're taking these things, it's the combination which otherwise culminate in a particular action. Science. Science. I love it. I love it.
So when someone comes into your clinic asking about peptides, what are they usually hoping to understand or learn more about? How do they find you? Bec, the most common way that people would come with regard to peptides is, well, first thing, we don't advertise about peptides. You're not allowed to, right? Not allowed to. That's an illegal circumstance.
So most of it is word of mouth, for the better part, because most people have come to me in the beginning for sports effectively, they're looking for it from a sporting perspective. Be that I've got an injury that needs to be fixed. I have a chronic pain condition. I don't want my joint replacement yet. But increasingly that population is changing to the point of I want to feel better.
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